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BumRushDaShow

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Tue Sep 16, 2025, 10:14 AM 16 hrs ago

Luigi Mangione: Judge tosses 2 state murder charges related to act of terrorism

Source: ABC News

September 16, 2025, 9:14 AM


A judge dismissed two murder charges related to acts of terrorism as Luigi Mangione, the accused killer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, made his first Manhattan courtroom appearance in five months on Tuesday.

Judge Gregory Carro tossed out the most severe charge, first-degree murder, accusing Mangione of murder as a crime of terrorism. The judge said the evidence presented to the grand jury was insufficient to support the terrorism charge.

Carro also tossed a second-degree murder charge, related to killing as an act of terrorism.

The rest of the indictment remains, with the judge refusing to dismiss another second-degree murder charge, to which the accused killer has pleaded not guilty.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/luigi-mangione-returns-court-1st-time-5-months/story?id=125617908

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Luigi Mangione: Judge tosses 2 state murder charges related to act of terrorism (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 16 hrs ago OP
Oh noes! The Trumpanzees are going to shit! Aristus 16 hrs ago #1
Deadline Legal Blog-Why a New York state judge dismissed terrorism charges against Luigi Mangione LetMyPeopleVote 6 hrs ago #2

Aristus

(70,852 posts)
1. Oh noes! The Trumpanzees are going to shit!
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 10:25 AM
16 hrs ago

It's not terrorism just because they call it that. I call it 'justice', but that doesn't mean that it is, either.

LetMyPeopleVote

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2. Deadline Legal Blog-Why a New York state judge dismissed terrorism charges against Luigi Mangione
Tue Sep 16, 2025, 08:51 PM
6 hrs ago

Justice Gregory Carro deemed two terrorism-related murder charges as legally insufficient but approved a remaining, straightforward murder charge.



https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/luigi-mangione-terrorism-charges-dismissed-murder-new-york-rcna231643

Luigi Mangione has gotten two of the murder counts against him dismissed in his New York state case but still faces another one, on top of federal charges that carry the possibility of capital punishment. In the state case, Justice Gregory Carro ruled Tuesday that it was legally insufficient to bring two terrorism-related murder charges but said that remaining charges can go forward, including a count of intentional murder.

So it’s a qualified win for Mangione, 27, that still has him facing the possibility of dying in prison if he is convicted, as he also faces separate federal charges in which prosecutors are seeking the death penalty. Tuesday’s ruling nonetheless cuts against Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s case in the way that Bragg sought to shape it, even if the practical consequence of the dismissal could be slight in the end, especially in light of the separate federal case that carries the potential threat of execution. New York’s state system doesn’t have the death penalty, but the federal system does......

Noting that the terrorism charges brought against Mangione involve proving the defendant intended to “intimidate or coerce a civilian population,” Carro wrote that he didn’t think the state Legislature “intended the employees of a company, however large, to constitute a ‘civilian population’ within the meaning of the statute.” The judge went on to write that even if he were to find the employees constituted such a population, “there was no evidence presented that defendant’s conscious objective or intent was to intimidate or coerce the employees of United Healthcare.”

Rather, the judge wrote, Mangione’s apparent objective was “to draw attention to what he perceived as the greed of the insurance industry” and “as an additional possible consequence, to negatively affect the financials of the company.” The judge wrote that Bragg’s office “presented sufficient evidence that the defendant murdered Brian Thompson in a premeditated and calculated execution. That does not mean, however, that the defendant did so with terroristic intent.”
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