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BumRushDaShow

(160,105 posts)
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 03:11 AM Monday

Utah campus open carry permit under fresh scrutiny after Kirk shooting

Source: The Guardian

Sun 14 Sep 2025 15.09 EDT
First published on Sun 14 Sep 2025 08.00 EDT


As authorities at the federal and state levels parse the details of the fatal shooting of far-right activist Charlie Kirk at a university in Utah, a recently passed state bill that allows people with concealed-carry permits to carry firearms openly on college campuses has drawn fresh scrutiny.

Utah has allowed for permitless open and concealed carry of weapons since 2021. But before the passage of HB 128, firearms had to be concealed when carried on college campuses. The law allowed people with the proper permit to carry them openly.

When the law passed in August, university staff voiced concerns about what carrying could mean for classroom emergencies that might require students to act as armed responders and their presence in laboratories where harmful and potent chemicals were stored.

While it’s unclear whether the suspected shooter, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, was legally allowed to own the hunting rifle used in the shooting, or have one on a university campus, the proximity between the bill’s passing and the shooting has pushed the law into headlines across the US. The bill did not come in a vacuum, but added to Utah’s already second amendment-friendly legislative landscape.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/14/utah-campus-concealed-carry-permit

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JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,347 posts)
1. What's "open carry" have to do with anything?
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 04:38 AM
Monday

Robinson didn't carry the rifle openly; he kept it hidden on his way in and out of the campus. Maybe if having firearms on campus was outlawed, they'd have another minor charge to add to the murder charge. Given his escape path, I think they could add "jaywalking" if they wanted.

DFW

(58,924 posts)
2. Mais non, mais non, mais non!
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 04:49 AM
Monday

Since it appears to be open season for right wing crazies to be hunting right wing crazies, what could we possibly have against them continuing to eliminate each other in this fashion? Waiting for "the left" to do it is like waiting for Godot. We're the gun control crowd, remember? We're the "libbruls," the people who don't want this kind of thing to happen to anybody, even them.

So if anyone is going to go around acting like it's open season on right wing extremists, it ain't gonna be us. If the right wing crazies stop shooting at each other, there will be no one left to do it. THEN what will Fox Noise do? Report the news factually? Since that's something they have never done before, they'd have to start learning how from square one.

Old Crank

(6,215 posts)
3. Part of the guns everywhere movement
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 04:50 AM
Monday

To keep us safe.
Next step. Required carry. Only then can we have a properly polite society.....
Sheesh.

AllyCat

(18,211 posts)
4. Schoolchildren, lawmakers, churchgoers, theater attendees and other humans
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 05:25 AM
Monday

Shot daily in every space in the country won’t give them pause on America’s ridiculously lax gun laws, but one right-wing radio host dies from their gun-nuttiness and we start looking at gun control.

Got it.

OC375

(261 posts)
6. Non Issue
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 08:04 AM
Monday

Open carry had nothing to do with this. Also, he lived off campus - he didn’t have an “arsenal” in his dorm room. Way to murk up waters and add to the discord. Opportunists are everywhere.

BumRushDaShow

(160,105 posts)
7. They're trying to find some excuse for their failures
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 08:47 AM
Monday

due to their wanton lack of awareness and empathy, and penchant for embracing conspiracy theories to explain away their own choices.

Aristus

(70,859 posts)
9. Yeah, it's only when one of their own dies that they start thinking maybe there's too many goddamned guns out there
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 09:39 AM
Monday

and it's too easy to get a hold of one to do some dirty work.

somsai

(156 posts)
11. No one conceal carries a hunting rifle, and yes they are legal in Utah
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 11:40 AM
Monday

I've no idea why young guys flip out and take up extremist ideologies, but turning this into a gun issue is misdirection.

DFW

(58,924 posts)
12. Us young guys?
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 01:28 PM
Monday

Let me guess, you don’t inundate this board with an avalanche of frequent posting, do you?

maxsolomon

(37,356 posts)
13. 153 posts since 2012.
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 01:47 PM
Monday

Problem isn't open or concealed carry. It's carry itself.

Utah will never turn back from Gun Ubiquity.

DrFunkenstein

(8,832 posts)
15. If the British Invade Utah, We Need a Well-Regulated Militia!
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 05:54 PM
Monday

Can't people see the dangers of a standing army that our forefathers warned about!?! We must abide by their holy foresight!

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