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BumRushDaShow

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Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:26 PM Saturday

Trump administration unlawfully directed mass worker terminations, judge rules

Source: Reuters

September 13, 2025 9:02 AM EDT Updated 3 hours ago


Sept 13 (Reuters) - A federal judge ruled on Friday that U.S. President Donald Trump's administration had unlawfully directed the firing of thousands of federal workers, but he did not order their reinstatement, citing recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions.

U.S. District Judge William Alsup in San Francisco stuck by his preliminary conclusion in the case that the U.S. Office of Personnel Management in February unlawfully ordered numerous agencies to fire probationary employees en masse.

Unions, nonprofits and Washington state had sued after Trump's administration moved to fire roughly 25,000 probationary employees, who typically have less than a year of service, though some are longtime workers in new jobs.

Alsup said ordinarily he would "set aside OPM's unlawful directive and unwind its consequences, returning the parties to the ex ante status quo, and as a consequence, probationers to their posts." "But the Supreme Court has made clear enough by way of its emergency docket that it will overrule judicially granted relief respecting hirings and firings within the executive, not just in this case but in others," Alsup wrote.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-unlawfully-directed-mass-worker-terminations-judge-rules-2025-09-13/



Link to RULING (PDF) - https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/dwpklnkgdvm/09122025alsup.pdf

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Trump administration unlawfully directed mass worker terminations, judge rules (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Saturday OP
Trump breaks laws every hour he is awake. When will the courts do something about it? Irish_Dem Saturday #1
Most of the lower courts have. BumRushDaShow Saturday #3
Lower courts are worthless and have zero power. Irish_Dem Saturday #4
It is mindboggling that we are here. yellow dahlia Saturday #2
That is a clear, refreshing and moniss Saturday #5
So just obey in advance? FemDemERA Saturday #6
I'm sure SCROTUS will say he can do it Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Saturday #7

Irish_Dem

(74,728 posts)
4. Lower courts are worthless and have zero power.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:55 PM
Saturday

They are just pretend courts.
Doing a bit of dog and pony.

moniss

(8,052 posts)
5. That is a clear, refreshing and
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 01:54 PM
Saturday

plainly stated kick in the nuts to the MAGA Supreme Court Justices.

FemDemERA

(583 posts)
6. So just obey in advance?
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 02:59 PM
Saturday

Seems like some judges lately are saying, “It was wrong but since I don’t want to be overruled I will let it slide”?

Why not make the higher court actually do the work it takes to overrule? If we are lucky, maybe it’s not a case they take on. If they do and the ruling is overturned, at least you would have done the right thing and tried. And it would be public, the people would know.

I’m sure this judge has good intentions and I certainly don’t understand all the legalities of these things. I also empathize with not wanting the case to be a rollercoaster of rulings and appeals, but it just makes me weep to see these types of rulings.

Am I completely off in my understanding? Please someone with legal knowledge explain to me (in simple terms) these seemingly halfhearted rulings and why it should not make me feel disheartened.

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