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lostincalifornia

(4,443 posts)
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 10:59 AM Sep 5

BART system shuts down completely, creating transit nightmare

Source: SF Gate

"The entire BART system remains shut down Friday morning stranding tens of thousands of commuters across the San Francisco Bay Area. BART officials said in a post that the shut down was due to a "computer equipment problem."

The agency said they were upgrading their network when the problem occurred leaving them unable to start regular service Friday morning. They advised commuters to "seek alternative means of transportation."

Stranded riders can look up alternate travel options on the BART trip planner website.

BART is a key lifeline in the Bay Area with a ridership of about 180,000 people ride every weekday. The transit nightmare wasn't just limited to BART riders, the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Authority warned that Muni drivers might be delayed by the BART shutdown causing further delays."

Read more: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/bart-shut-down-rush-hour-21032405.php

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BART system shuts down completely, creating transit nightmare (Original Post) lostincalifornia Sep 5 OP
Weren't they required to start the system every morning with 5" floppy disks? NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 5 #1
I came to ask that too IbogaProject Sep 5 #5
Some of our missile silos have (had?) similarly antiquated technology. keep_left Sep 5 #6
"I believe they were truly ancient 8" disks--anyone remember those?" mahatmakanejeeves Sep 5 #7
I remember that fondly, not to mention the Fairlight CMI... keep_left Sep 5 #8
They were 8" drives jmowreader Sep 5 #10
ded burn micro$soft AllaN01Bear Sep 5 #2
Good gawd! What a mess! littlemissmartypants Sep 5 #3
If this happens to you it can be a nightmare. Jacson6 Sep 5 #4
whoever decided to do this upgrade on a weekday should lose their job pimpbot Sep 5 #9
My bet is Trump asking Putin popsdenver Sep 5 #11

keep_left

(3,067 posts)
6. Some of our missile silos have (had?) similarly antiquated technology.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:24 PM
Sep 5

Who really knows, being as so much of the information is classified, but the military did admit a few years ago that they were using floppies (I believe they were truly ancient 8" disks--anyone remember those?) to run their computers. In a way, this may have even been somewhat beneficial; the systems were basically impossible to hack from the outside. And even if the enemy was able to sneak in a spy or two, the technology was so old that they would be hard-pressed in their ability to compromise it.

The last I heard was that the computers were in the process of being upgraded, but as I said, who really knows?

mahatmakanejeeves

(66,703 posts)
7. "I believe they were truly ancient 8" disks--anyone remember those?"
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:41 PM
Sep 5

Easily. I have "War Games" on DVD, and I watched it last weekend.



Source: https://www.virtual-history.com/movie/film/27669/wargames

And good afternoon.

keep_left

(3,067 posts)
8. I remember that fondly, not to mention the Fairlight CMI...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:47 PM
Sep 5

...which also used 8" floppies to store what were then considered to be colossal-sized audio samples. Little did we know that by the 2000s, we would have literally gigabyte-sized samples streaming from hard disk (Tascam's "Gigasampler" software).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairlight_CMI

I think the later versions of the Fairlight used some of the very first commercially-viable hard drives, as 8" floppies weren't too practical for live performances, and those machines were going on concert tours all over the world.

jmowreader

(52,664 posts)
10. They were 8" drives
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 03:43 PM
Sep 5

The system they were using was IBM’s Series/1 minicomputer, which used 8” drives.

Jacson6

(1,534 posts)
4. If this happens to you it can be a nightmare.
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 12:01 PM
Sep 5

It was winter 1979 and I was in Detroit. The bus drivers went on strike and I was strandad at a desolate snow covered bus stop. I had to call my parents who drove twenty miles to pick me up that night. People depend on transit and it must always run.

pimpbot

(1,122 posts)
9. whoever decided to do this upgrade on a weekday should lose their job
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 02:57 PM
Sep 5

Unfortunately almost every area of our lives these days are filled with incompetence.

Also, it appears really easy to disable the entire system by taking some network hardware offline. Cyber criminals can taste the ransom money already.

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