With no end in sight, National Guard troops deployed to DC grow weary
Source: CNN Politics
PUBLISHED Sep 4, 2025, 5:00 AM ET
With each phone call home, the troops describe a mission unlike any other. One soldier from Tennessee told his father that from 4 p.m. to 4 a.m. every day, his only task is to walk around Chinatown. Another service member from Mississippi told a loved one that shed been repeatedly cursed at while on patrol. During a call to his wife, a guardsman from Louisiana said there was confusion about what the military was actually doing there.
We havent gotten critically low on morale, but were falling fast, said one soldier who, like others quoted in this story, spoke to CNN on the condition of anonymity because theyre not authorized to speak to the media and feared reprisal.
Of the more than 2,200 National Guard soldiers President Donald Trump deployed to Washington, DC, last month, in addition to a wave of federal law enforcement, roughly 1,300 are from out of state. Guard members on the DC mission and their relatives who spoke to CNN said they left behind civilian jobs and children to serve a sacrifice they understood when they enlisted.
And while domestic missions typically have National Guard troops responding to crises like hurricanes or wildfires, in DC, much of their work has involved more mundane tasks patrolling popular tourist destinations and assisting with beautification projects including picking up trash, raking leaves and laying mulch.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/04/politics/national-guardsmen-deployed-to-dc-balance

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(1,150 posts)HarryM
(427 posts)Donnys DUI hire is the head, rotting the image of the military every day he remains there
bamagal62
(4,164 posts)My husband was in the Guard. Both of us would have been super pissed about this assignment.
maxsolomon
(37,356 posts)I wouldn't go out jacking cars or conducting drive-by shootings if there were armed soldiers on my street.
BumRushDaShow
(160,136 posts)They are mostly roaming around the actual "federal district" locations where the tourists are so they can be seen "on teevee".
BaronChocula
(3,324 posts)The National Guard Soldier Pissed About Trumps DC Takeover
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/09/national-guard-morale-dc-takeover-interview-soldiers-pissed-angry/
BumRushDaShow
(160,136 posts)I sub to them and they had a link to that in their newsletter that I got in my email this afternoon! :thumbup:
Captain Zero
(8,406 posts)And remove Trump from it.
BaronChocula
(3,324 posts)I'd be getting a huge trump tax cut.
BidenRocks
(2,194 posts)all I can say is, Ya Missed A Spot!
maxsolomon
(37,356 posts)Most of the "dangerous" areas of DC are across the Anacostia River.
BumRushDaShow
(160,136 posts)and she would occasionally talk about parts of D.C. along Florida Avenue as a no-go.
bronxiteforever
(10,766 posts)for the complicit GOP Governors, then the fault is on their own head. Their Governors decided to make them political pawns. Regardless they should blame their own statesleadership for their deployment.
Hekate
(99,410 posts)bronxiteforever
(10,766 posts)UNLIKE the other Governors and there were no California Guardsmen in the District. That was the Tennessee guard etc. The compliant Governors were willing to send the Guard so the comparison does not hold.
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/west-virginia-to-deploy-hundreds-of-national-guard-troops-to-d-c/
angrychair
(11,127 posts)I hope it's miserable and awful and every second complete shit.
They are there to terrorize innocent people and have guns aimed at American citizens. Fuck them.
The issues are easy to fix: go home.
reACTIONary
(6,706 posts)A National Guard member caught deserting faces serious consequences including dishonorable discharge, loss of all pay and benefits, reduction to the lowest enlisted grade, and potential imprisonment for years, with penalties varying based on factors like intent and duration of absence. Failure to report for duty can escalate from "Absent Without Leave" (AWOL) to desertion after 30 days, and may result in a warrant for arrest upon encountering law enforcement, leading to immediate apprehension
angrychair
(11,127 posts)Structurally their mission is no different than it was in LA and even worse now because they are patrolling in DC with live ammunition, it's a clear violation of the posse comitatus act. They have every right to refuse an illegal order.
Because right now they are participating in an armed occupation of a US city as a hostile military force that has been authorized to kill Americans.
reACTIONary
(6,706 posts).... It could even, eventually, be the court's opinion. But I don't think it's the opinion of many of the troops in DC.
I don't expect them to end up in jail and suffer a stain on their reputation just because of my opinion. And even if they agreed with our assessment, I wouldn't expect them to do so.
The D.C. attorney general has sued to halt the National Guard deployment. That's the way to handle this.
angrychair
(11,127 posts)But was confused because it was right on the heels of the mayor praising Mango Mussolini and ordering cooperation.
reACTIONary
(6,706 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney_General_for_the_District_of_Columbia
§ 1204.35. Election of the Attorney General. | D.C. Law Library
https://code.dccouncil.gov/us/dc/council/code/sections/1-204.35
TomSlick
(12,714 posts)Individual soldiers are not expected to make close calls. If it's not clear that obedience of an order would require a criminal act, a soldier must obey. The order to deploy was not illegal. An order to walk a specific route is not illegal.
If given an unlawful order, a soldier has the duty to refuse the order but they do not have a right to desert.
The further up the rank structure, the higher the obligation to make the close calls. A commander with a Staff Judge Advocate (usually the O6 level and higher) should seek legal advise on close calls. If I was the SJA for a commander given an order to enforce civil law, I would advise, in writing, that relaying the order down the chain-of-command would be a criminal offense (two year maximum sentence) and that the statute of limitations is likely five years (by which time Trump will be gone - on way or another).
ANY law enforcement duty, domestically, runs afoul of the Posse Comitatus Act. Its a two-year FELONY for a military person or Gusrd military person to arrest anyone, take anyone into custody, perform any investigation, etc. thats all law enforcement duties, and illegal for people in U.S. military uniform.
TomSlick
(12,714 posts)The PCA does not purport to criminalize participation in violations of the statute by private soldiers. How far down the chain of command the power to "employ" the military in law enforcement reaches is a difficult question. If I was making the call, I would stop at levels of command that have Staff Judge Advocates - usually O6 and higher commands.
LeftInTX
(33,902 posts)Obviously, picking up garbage is not illegal. It's just tedious and a waste of taxpayers money.
However, if Trump would order a curfew of 10 pm with orders to kill everyone outside after 10 pm, would probably be an illegal order.
Hekate
(99,410 posts)
fires, floods, hurricanes. This is NOT their choice or their doing.
EVERYTHING TRUMP TOUCHES, DIES
angrychair
(11,127 posts)The people you are sympathetic too are federalized national guard that are heavily armed and authorized to kill American citizens on US soil.
Excuse me if I'm not sympathetic with people holding a city hostage at the point of a gun.
Hekate
(99,410 posts)IcyPeas
(24,224 posts)AverageOldGuy
(2,952 posts)They are there as a dry run for Trump's use of the military to seize voting equipment and records during and after the November 2026 and 2028 elections.
After it was clear he lost the 2020 election, Trump demanded that then Secretary of Defense Esper and Attorney General Barr use the military to seize voting equipment and records.
An executive order was drafted in December 2020 citing phony claims about election fraud and voting machines. The order, complete with a dotted line ready for Trump's signature, directed the SECDEF to "seize, collect, retain and analyze all machines, equipment, electronically stored information, and material records required for retention" under a law that relates to preserving election records. Fortunately, Esper and Barr stood firm and Trump backed down.
Today, the SECDEF and AG are Trump toadies who are partners in his scheme to end free elections.
Earlier, several times on the 2024 campaign trail, Trump told his audiences to vote in 2024 and you wont need to vote again. Now we are seeing his scheme come together -- this is just practice.
Rebl2
(16,963 posts)many quit the national guard when their time to serve is up.
Hekate
(99,410 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(58,355 posts)Crowman2009
(3,260 posts)......here's my tiny violin solo:
MadMike47
(163 posts)Treat the grunts nicely. Throw sandwiches at the officers.
Bernardo de La Paz
(58,355 posts)Woodwizard
(1,207 posts)Soldiers are not trained to be police. This will eventually end up badly at some point.