Trump DOJ is looking at ways to ban transgender Americans from owning guns, sources say
Source: CNN
In the wake of the Minneapolis Catholic church shooting, senior Justice Department officials are weighing proposals to limit transgender peoples right to possess firearms, according to two officials familiar with the internal discussions.
The talks, described as preliminary in nature, appear to build on an idea that has gained some currency in conservative media since the Minneapolis shooting that killed two children and injured 21, most of them children, at Annunciation Catholic Church, an attack that police say was carried out by a 23-year-old transgender woman.
Such a move would represent a dramatic escalation of the Trump administrations fight against the rights of transgender Americans.
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But Justice Department leadership is seriously considering whether it can use its rulemaking authority to follow on to Trumps determination to bar military service by transgender people and declare that people who are transgender are mentally ill and can lose their Second Amendment rights to possess firearms, according to one Justice official.
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Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/04/politics/transgender-firearms-justice-department-second-amendment

Pachamama
(17,461 posts)2nd amendment only for those they deem worthy?
Skittles
(167,399 posts)doesn't matter that most mass shootings are done by homegrown straight white males, cannot touch THEM
Eliot Rosewater
(34,060 posts)Remember, RFK Junior believes vaccines are worse than the illnesses they cure so he will get rid of all vaccines and remember, the people pushing the buttons of the piece of shit hate Gay people and think that they are abnormal spawns of Satan.
But yeah you know some just couldnt support Hillary or Kamala
AZJonnie
(1,497 posts)All those cases involve just making up some bullshit reason to do it. I'd think even most wingnuts aren't dumb enough to go along with this, but they've certainly surprised me with their stupidity and irrational hatred in the past, many times.
LeftInTX
(33,891 posts)So, if someone has changed their name and gender in the past, it should show up on the background check.
That's how they are able to force trans women into male prisons.
TexasBushwhacker
(21,002 posts)The vast majority of mass and spree killers are MEN!
C_U_L8R
(48,049 posts)Hey magats, see how this works? Keep playing stupid games.
Bayard
(26,974 posts)Compared to rampaging MAGAts with guns.
bucolic_frolic
(52,392 posts)The Mouth
(3,391 posts)to own or carry anything, anywhere, regardless of any state or local laws.
TommyT139
(1,880 posts)The groundwork has already been laid.
Nigrum Cattus
(1,002 posts)Even the law that was passed here in Cali the gov
and commit homeless people to "treatment" if
they refuse, because the gov knows everything
Which followed fast on the Supreme Court decision. Every side is taking advantage of that.
hildegaard28
(780 posts)The way they want to go, when Democrats take everything back the we can declare MAGAts to be mentally ill and take away their guns. And we can actually prove that they are mentally ill. Theres plenty of video evidence of MAGAts acting crazy in public.
Chasstev365
(6,252 posts)Redleg
(6,600 posts)They are trying to stoke another panic over transgender people. It makes them feel tough and manly to punch the most vulnerable among us.
Oneironaut
(6,124 posts)Unarmed people cannot fight back, and, it is one less thing for agents to worry about when rounding trans people up for mass detention.
Redleg
(6,600 posts)Mark my words.
And it's really their Christian Nationalists beliefs. They don't care how they get there; they just want to get there. They will call it whatever they need to call it in order to get it done.
As someone mentioned upthread, next it will be another group. Women, etc.
IronLionZion
(49,900 posts)because the problem with mass shootings are not who is doing the shooting. It's the guns.
Staph
(6,428 posts)Four of those were by transgender individuals. I suspect that at least 90% were white males. Why don't we ban them from having guns?
moonshinegnomie
(3,627 posts)they should be banned from owning guns
Martin68
(26,458 posts)Vinca
(52,682 posts)Do they get to keep their AKs then? Man, woman, trans - does it really matter who's pulling the trigger? We need gun control, not trans control.
TommyT139
(1,880 posts)...which are unrelated to firearms: some trans people looking to get identity documents (passports, drivers licenses) in their sex assigned at birth -- a number of those folks are in limbo. They are unable to switch back.
Now maybe if the regime starts to enact a program of not just forced de-transition (medically, which is already happening), but re-education -- they would need to have some indication of "repentance" or whatever. That's a scary line of thought, so I won't go further down that path on an open thread.
But even then, I could still see someone being denied access to enjoyment of their second amendment rights.
Karasu
(2,003 posts)precedent for them to ban any group they don't fucking like from owning anything they don't want them to. Which is the vast majority of this country.
Where are all those 2nd Amendment absolutists at now?
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gay texan
(3,074 posts)I knew this shit was coming
muriel_volestrangler
(104,693 posts)During the leadership of General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev, psychiatry was used to disable and remove from society political opponents (Soviet dissidents) who openly expressed beliefs that contradicted the official dogma.[4][5] The term "philosophical intoxication", for instance, was widely applied to the mental disorders diagnosed when people disagreed with the country's Communist leaders and, by referring to the writings of the Founding Fathers of MarxismLeninismKarl Marx, Friedrich Engels, and Vladimir Leninmade them the target of criticism.[6] Another common pseudo-diagnosis was "sluggish schizophrenia".
Article 58-10 of the Stalin-era Criminal Code, "Anti-Soviet agitation", was to a considerable degree preserved in the new 1958 Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic Criminal Code as Article 70 "Anti-Soviet agitation and propaganda". In 1967, a weaker law, Article 190-1 "Dissemination of fabrications known to be false, which defame the Soviet political and social system", was added to the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic Criminal Code. These laws were frequently applied in conjunction with the system of diagnosis for mental illness, developed by academician Andrei Snezhnevsky. Together, they established a framework within which non-standard beliefs could easily be defined as a criminal offence and the basis, subsequently, for a psychiatric diagnosis.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
Norrrm
(2,979 posts)