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BumRushDaShow

(160,136 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:58 PM Sep 4

Trump administration says more operations against cartels coming

Source: Reuters

September 4, 2025 5:07 AM EDT Updated 7 hours ago


WASHINGTON/MEXICO CITY, Sept 3 (Reuters) - Senior U.S. national security officials said on Wednesday that military operations against cartels would continue, setting the stage for a sustained military campaign in Latin America even as basic questions about a deadly strike against a vessel from Venezuela remained unanswered.

The U.S. military killed 11 people on Tuesday in a strike on a vessel from Venezuela allegedly carrying illegal narcotics, in the first known operation since President Donald Trump's recent deployment of warships to the southern Caribbean. Little is known about the strike, including what legal justification was used or what drugs were on board, but U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said operations would continue.

"We've got assets in the air, assets in the water, assets on ships, because this is a deadly serious mission for us, and it won't stop with just this strike," Hegseth said on FOX & Friends. "Anyone else trafficking in those waters who we know is a designated narco terrorist will face the same fate," Hegseth said.

He declined to provide details on how the operation was carried out, saying they were classified. It is unknown whether the vessel was destroyed using a drone, torpedo, or by some other means.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-says-more-operations-against-cartels-coming-2025-09-03/

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Trump administration says more operations against cartels coming (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 4 OP
MaddowBlog-Team Trump faces tough questions following strike on boat in international waters LetMyPeopleVote Sep 4 #1
There's a possibility that it was not a drug boat, but an immigrant smuggling operation SpankMe Sep 4 #2
I call bullshit on this whole operation Bayard Sep 4 #3
I doubt anything the Regime says Miguelito Loveless Sep 5 #7
Isn't that piracy? cstanleytech Sep 4 #4
Well, there goes that great saying bluestarone Sep 4 #5
Remember too, that boat was 1000 miles or so from the US but a drunk like Hegseth Bengus81 Sep 4 #6

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,765 posts)
1. MaddowBlog-Team Trump faces tough questions following strike on boat in international waters
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:24 PM
Sep 4

You’ve heard the expression “shoot first and ask questions later”? This appears to be a rare literal example of the phenomenon.

Team Trump faces tough questions following strike on boat in international waters
www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

2kindsjustice (@2kindsjustice.bsky.social) 2025-09-04T15:47:11.570Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/team-trump-faces-tough-questions-strike-boat-international-waters-rcna229049

When retired Gen. H.R. McMaster served as Donald Trump’s national security adviser during the president’s first term, he didn’t exactly enjoy White House meetings. McMaster wrote in his memoir that Trump would routinely become distracted and blurt out “outlandish” ideas during discussions, including one especially memorable instance in which the president wanted to know, “Why don’t we just bomb the drugs” before they enter the United States?

That anecdote came to mind this week. The Associated Press reported:

President Donald Trump said Tuesday the U.S. has carried out a strike in the southern Caribbean against a drug-carrying vessel that departed from Venezuela and was operated by the Tren de Aragua gang. The president said in a social media posting that 11 people were killed in the rare U.S. military operation in the Americas, a dramatic escalation in the Republican administration’s effort to stem the flow of narcotics from Latin America.


.....Were the 11 people on the boat actually members of the Tren de Aragua gang? The president claimed they were, but then again, the president claims lots of things that have no basis in reality, and it’s not yet clear whether there might’ve been innocent people on board.

Were there actual drugs on the boat? Trump insisted there were, but there’s no publicly available evidence to support the claim. And even if there were drugs on board, U.S. officials could’ve intercepted the boat, seized its cargo, arrested those on board (or at least offered them an opportunity to surrender) and put them on trial — without blowing anyone up.......

When JD Vance was asked about the administration’s legal authority in this instance, his answer suggested the vice president — a Yale Law School graduate — was confused by what the phrase “legal authority” means.

Q: On the Venezuela vessel strike, what legal authority were you guys working under?

JD VANCE: The legal authority is there are people who are bringing -- literal terrorists -- who are bringing deadly drugs into our country

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-09-03T20:09:59.147Z


......Around the same time, Ryan Goodman, an NYU law professor and former special counsel at the Pentagon, wrote via Bluesky, “I literally cannot imagine lawyers coming up with a legal basis for lethal strike of suspected Venezuelan drug boat. Hard to see how this would not be ‘murder’ or a war crime under international law that DoD considers applicable.”

Looking ahead, there are a handful of angles to this story that are worth keeping in mind. The first is that there’s no reason to assume the questions will simply go away. Second, if Trump is still campaigning for a Nobel Peace Prize, he might want to start lowering his expectations, since the committee tends to frown on extrajudicial killings.

Third, Americans who voted for Trump hoping for a restrained foreign policy and a reluctance to use military force now have fresh reason to question their decision.

SpankMe

(3,597 posts)
2. There's a possibility that it was not a drug boat, but an immigrant smuggling operation
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:25 PM
Sep 4

Odds are slim that it was a human smuggling thing, but NYT reports that there were 11 people on the boat which would be very unusual for a narcotics operation. With no verifiable intel being released and no available debris to analyze, we'll probably never know.

But, here's a link to a BlueSky post on the matter:

You know that boat the administration blew up? A former law enforcement official told the NYT the boat seemed to be carrying not drugs but *’migrants *
www.nytimes.com/2025/09/03/u...

Eric Umansky (@ericumansky.bsky.social) 2025-09-04T00:32:32.452Z


And the NYT article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/03/us/politics/hegseth-venezuela-drug-strike.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jU8._oRS.QhFYZjRo5Mb1&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleSharehttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/03/us/politics/hegseth-venezuela-drug-strike.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jU8._oRS.QhFYZjRo5Mb1&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Bayard

(26,974 posts)
3. I call bullshit on this whole operation
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:30 PM
Sep 4

Eleven people on a fishing boat bombed out of existence with no evidence of anything.

Democrats--demand investigation!

bluestarone

(20,284 posts)
5. Well, there goes that great saying
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:47 PM
Sep 4

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!! (probably with SC blessing as well)

Bengus81

(9,366 posts)
6. Remember too, that boat was 1000 miles or so from the US but a drunk like Hegseth
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:28 PM
Sep 4

just knew it was drug smugglers from a few Sat pics?

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