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BumRushDaShow

(160,177 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 03:15 AM Sep 4

Trump plans to ask Supreme Court to toss E. Jean Carroll's $5 million abuse and defamation verdict

Source: AP

Updated 3:41 PM EDT, September 3, 2025


NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump will soon ask the Supreme Court to throw out a jury’s finding in a civil lawsuit that he sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll at a Manhattan department store in the mid-1990s and later defamed her, his lawyers said in a recent court filing.

Trump’s lawyers previewed the move as they asked the high court to extend its deadline for challenging the $5 million verdict from Sept. 10 to Nov. 11. The president “intends to seek review” of “significant issues” arising from the trial and the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals’ subsequent decisions upholding the verdict, his lawyers said.

Carroll’s lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, said Wednesday: “We do not believe that President Trump will be able to present any legal issues in the Carroll cases that merit review by the United States Supreme Court.”

Carroll testified at a 2023 trial that Trump turned a friendly encounter in spring 1996 into a violent attack in the dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman, a luxury retailer across the street from Trump Tower. The jury also found Trump liable for defaming Carroll when he made comments in October 2022 denying her allegation.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/trump-carroll-abuse-defamation-supreme-court-3f2e5b92ba4f78cf70d9868b49901fce

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Trump plans to ask Supreme Court to toss E. Jean Carroll's $5 million abuse and defamation verdict (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 4 OP
Lets hope her lawyer is right-but then again, his buddies on the SC will probably conjure up riversedge Sep 4 #1
SCROTUS may just kick the can down the road until after next year's election. GreenWave Sep 4 #9
He really does see them as his personal lawyers, doesn't he? SomewhereInTheMiddle Sep 4 #2
And don't forget MyOwnPeace Sep 4 #17
And what about the millions that he also owes the state of New York for his years of business fraud? Rhiannon12866 Sep 4 #3
I was disappointed when the fraud penalty was overturned. John1956PA Sep 4 #4
He plans to "ask" or to "instruct?" Orrex Sep 4 #5
Trump will have the US Supreme Court exonerate him for any and all crimes and liabilities. Irish_Dem Sep 4 #6
I gotta say this for the SCOTUS-6: lastlib Sep 4 #7
It's absolutely disgusting mdbl Sep 4 #8
Someone said they follow the golden rule--- lastlib Sep 4 #10
Oh, never heard that phrase! Too true sometimes! electric_blue68 Sep 4 #38
I wonder how much they were paid to sell out their country and democracy? Irish_Dem Sep 4 #12
It is such a shock CozyMystery Sep 4 #27
The only acceptable verdict... lonely bird Sep 4 #11
Trump was sued as a private citizen edhopper Sep 4 #13
Never mind. He was sued in federal court. LeftInTX Sep 4 #28
Yes edhopper Sep 4 #30
"He's king" LeftInTX Sep 4 #31
"Please let me get away with assault and abuse." -Dump, probably sakabatou Sep 4 #14
Maybe the jury will have something to say about that................oh yeah they already did.................guilty..... turbinetree Sep 4 #15
If they do then he owns them. JohnnyRingo Sep 4 #16
The GOP love people who abuse women. Old Crank Sep 4 #18
Kavanaugh and Thomas are fine with abusing women. It's their hobby. Captain Zero Sep 5 #45
That predator is such a sore loser. Dave Bowman Sep 4 #19
Deadline: Legal Blog-Trump wants to file a Supreme Court petition in E. Jean Carroll case this fall LetMyPeopleVote Sep 4 #20
There's no earthly reason to "toss" this case FakeNoose Sep 4 #21
Oh, I love that Xmas Decoration! electric_blue68 Sep 4 #39
"And I want total PEDO immunity, too. Got that?" - Krassnov (r-moral exemplar for little repubes) BoRaGard Sep 4 #22
Trump thinks rules are for other people only neohippie Sep 4 #23
What a joke our legal system have become. republianmushroom Sep 4 #24
Never seen a president abuse his power and use the Supreme Court as his personal court Owens Sep 4 #25
If he's a billionaire like he says he is TexasBushwhacker Sep 4 #26
"I am king" LeftInTX Sep 4 #29
SCOTUS is corrupt... Snackshack Sep 4 #32
On what basis? North Coast Lawyer Sep 4 #33
Let them whine all they want HarryM Sep 4 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Snackshack Sep 4 #35
Since When RobinA Sep 4 #36
This is certainly a court quite capable of legalizing rape. After all, it's a not that big a deal to a court that's... NNadir Sep 4 #37
Thomas and Kavanaugh are uncharged RAPISTS themselves. Captain Zero Sep 5 #46
True. NNadir Sep 5 #47
He's Such SCUM! Pay the money you rapist! electric_blue68 Sep 4 #40
hard to believe this stll goes on. He learned well from Roy Cohn. Use the system to exhaust every possible option. Evolve Dammit Sep 4 #41
$5 million is pocket change, compared to the money trump is making as president. Paladin Sep 4 #42
Documentary at Telluride bmichaelh Sep 4 #43
Supreme Court expected to rule that rape is ok if you are Trump or if the victim is a relative. twodogsbarking Sep 4 #44

riversedge

(77,782 posts)
1. Lets hope her lawyer is right-but then again, his buddies on the SC will probably conjure up
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 03:43 AM
Sep 4

a reason.

2. He really does see them as his personal lawyers, doesn't he?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 04:02 AM
Sep 4

His rubber stamp, get-out-of-jail-free card?

That is so wrong.

What's worse is they seem to be allowing it, maybe even buying into it.

Thanks Justice Roberts. He'll remember this ... until he doesn't.

MyOwnPeace

(17,380 posts)
17. And don't forget
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:16 AM
Sep 4

Mitch McTurtle’s part in any and all of this.
Could/should be near the top of the list on America’s Hall-of-Shame of public ‘servants’ (crooks/liars!).

Rhiannon12866

(242,930 posts)
3. And what about the millions that he also owes the state of New York for his years of business fraud?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 05:08 AM
Sep 4

Is he going to try to fire or revoke the citizenship of New York AG Letitia James??

Irish_Dem

(74,825 posts)
6. Trump will have the US Supreme Court exonerate him for any and all crimes and liabilities.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:07 AM
Sep 4

Past, present, future.

Get out of jail free card for life.

lastlib

(26,703 posts)
7. I gotta say this for the SCOTUS-6:
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:45 AM
Sep 4

When they gets bought, they stays bought. I fear the outcome is pre-determined.

mdbl

(7,362 posts)
8. It's absolutely disgusting
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:35 AM
Sep 4

They have no shame, nor do they care about their optics. Their justice is no longer blind but now only sees green.

lastlib

(26,703 posts)
10. Someone said they follow the golden rule---
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:53 AM
Sep 4

Whover has the gold makes the rules.

Shame? They don't need no stinkin' shame.

Irish_Dem

(74,825 posts)
12. I wonder how much they were paid to sell out their country and democracy?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:23 AM
Sep 4

And to send many Americans to poverty and death.

GD traitors.

CozyMystery

(683 posts)
27. It is such a shock
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:38 PM
Sep 4

to me that the Supremes have turned out to be corruptible and corrupted.

I don't know why I was so naive. I watched Clarence Thomas's confirmation hearings. I believed Anita Hill (that has not changed). But I also thought the Supreme Court had a lot more integrity than they do, even when I disagreed with their decisions.

It would take a lot of persuasion to make me think that some of the Court's justices (past and present) were corrupt. RBG, for example, I will always believe was incorruptible. I don't believe the Democrats on the Court are corruptible, at least not without a lot of proof.

To have so many justices, though, who make inconceivable decisions, just floors me.

I paid microscopic attention to the events of the Trump years the first time around. Now, even if I just read headlines, I am not shocked any more, but appalled. I can't believe I would say this, but I am glad my daughter moved to France a couple of weeks ago. It had nothing to do with Trump. Now my worry is that she won't move back her after her year at a university there ... this time because of what has happened to the country because of Trump.

More importantly, I am worried about what is happening to the country with that despicable creature in charge.

edhopper

(36,643 posts)
13. Trump was sued as a private citizen
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:31 AM
Sep 4

there are no Constitutional grounds for the Supremes to even look at this case.

Not that that will stop them.

edhopper

(36,643 posts)
30. Yes
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:42 PM
Sep 4

but SCOTUS isn't ab appeals court, there has to be a Constitutional or Rights issue.
How were Trumps Rights violated?

turbinetree

(26,548 posts)
15. Maybe the jury will have something to say about that................oh yeah they already did.................guilty.....
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 09:43 AM
Sep 4

lock him up..............

JohnnyRingo

(20,162 posts)
16. If they do then he owns them.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:02 AM
Sep 4

It's a big ask and would be a big personal favor.
If the 5 wing nuts on the court comply with this it will prove it's about the man and not the office. They will approve anything he wants.

Old Crank

(6,220 posts)
18. The GOP love people who abuse women.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 10:30 AM
Sep 4

That seems to be their core. Looks like even a large group of GOP house women think it is a okay to rape and assault.

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,809 posts)
20. Deadline: Legal Blog-Trump wants to file a Supreme Court petition in E. Jean Carroll case this fall
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:52 AM
Sep 4

Lawyers representing the president want until Nov. 10 to file their petition challenging a lower court ruling in Carroll’s favor.

Trump wants to file a Supreme Court petition in E. Jean Carroll case this fall - MSNBC

apple.news/Ajr3BoZimQdW...

(@oc88.bsky.social) 2025-09-03T21:56:06.305Z

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/e-jean-carroll-trump-appeal-supreme-court-rcna228869

The president’s lawyers said they intend to file a petition asking the justices to hear their bid to reverse an appeals court ruling in favor of E. Jean Carroll, the writer whom Trump was found to have sexually abused and defamed. Carroll won two similar civil cases against Trump: one that’s pending in the appeals court in which she won an $83.3 million defamation award, and another in which she won $5 million.

The latter case is the subject of Trump’s forthcoming Supreme Court petition, which will challenge an appeals court ruling against him. In an Aug. 27 filing, his lawyers asked for permission to extend their filing deadline from Sept. 11 to Nov. 10.

Extensions are normal in Supreme Court practice, and in the likely event that this one is granted, that wouldn’t signal that the court will necessarily agree to hear Trump’s appeal. It’s more of an administrative request simply to give his lawyers more time to file the petition. After they do, Carroll’s lawyers can file a brief opposing review, and then the court will decide whether to take it up. It takes four justices to agree to grant review.

“President Trump has consistently and unequivocally denied Carroll’s allegations in both cases,” his filing said. It didn’t fully lay out his forthcoming legal arguments (those will come in the petition), but it said his lawyers intend to raise issues involving how different courts of appeals address evidentiary issues. Parties seeking high court review often tell the justices that review is needed to resolve splits among lower courts around the country.

trump got his butt kicked in the trial court and there are jury findings that will be hard to overcome.

FakeNoose

(38,638 posts)
21. There's no earthly reason to "toss" this case
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:57 AM
Sep 4

The crime was committed before Chump was elected President.

He had no "presidential immunity" - whatever that is - because he wasn't elected president yet. Even if he had been president, which he wasn't, he wasn't acting in his capacity as president when he raped and later defamed E. Jean Carroll. He's been rule against in a civil trial, and it has been upheld in every appeal since the original ruling.

He owes E. Jean Carroll, and he WILL PAY her! Enough already. Just shut up and pay her.

BoRaGard

(7,538 posts)
22. "And I want total PEDO immunity, too. Got that?" - Krassnov (r-moral exemplar for little repubes)
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 11:57 AM
Sep 4

neohippie

(1,249 posts)
23. Trump thinks rules are for other people only
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:00 PM
Sep 4

is there a legal basis for Trump to appeal this civil trial verdict was the verdict issued longer than 90 days ago?


Can you appeal civil cases to the Supreme Court?

In all civil cases, petitions for writs of certiorari in cases to be taken to the Supreme Court from courts of appeals or from state courts must be filed within 90 days after the entry of judgment. See 28 U.S.C. §§ 1254, 1257, and 2101(c).

TexasBushwhacker

(21,002 posts)
26. If he's a billionaire like he says he is
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:08 PM
Sep 4

what's $5 Million? All his delays just cost more in legal fees and interest, not to mention, continuing to call attention to the case. Anyone with a lick of sense wouldn't let his ego get in the way of putting this thing to bed. But it's Trump ....

Snackshack

(2,567 posts)
32. SCOTUS is corrupt...
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 01:50 PM
Sep 4

... and DJT knows exactly how corrupt. cj roberts will make sure djt gets what he wants.

maga was not able to get 3 justices on the court in 1 presidential term w/o bending or breaking many rules / precedents that cj roberts allowed... don't forget roberts did not even show up to djt 2nd impeachment for treason and we all saw djt give his heartfelt thanks to roberts on national tv for immunity.

North Coast Lawyer

(186 posts)
33. On what basis?
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 02:17 PM
Sep 4

Unless the SCOTUS has become fully captured by Trump there isn't any issue worthy of Supreme Court review here. There was a verdict in a case that if the defendant wasn't Trump would have been pretty ordinary. The verdict was appealed and upheld. Ordinarily SCOTUS wouldn't touch such a pedestrian case.

HarryM

(427 posts)
34. Let them whine all they want
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 02:23 PM
Sep 4

The Supremes should just ignore this as it was a State case, brought BEFORE Donny was appointed president.
Damn them to Hades if they do otherwise.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

NNadir

(36,589 posts)
37. This is certainly a court quite capable of legalizing rape. After all, it's a not that big a deal to a court that's...
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 05:04 PM
Sep 4

...declared the US Constitution unconstitutional.

Evolve Dammit

(21,217 posts)
41. hard to believe this stll goes on. He learned well from Roy Cohn. Use the system to exhaust every possible option.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 05:57 PM
Sep 4

Paladin

(31,604 posts)
42. $5 million is pocket change, compared to the money trump is making as president.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:47 PM
Sep 4

If trump had a single decent human instinct, he'd let E. Jean Carroll have that $5 million, without further challenges; she damn sure earned it. He'd never miss it, given the open-and-obvious way he's monetizing his second term---with plenty of cash deals available to his dim sons and assorted ass-kissers, as well. But of course, it won't happen.

bmichaelh

(943 posts)
43. Documentary at Telluride
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:53 PM
Sep 4

There was a film at the film festival Telluride called 'Ask E. Jean'.

It was about E. Jean Carroll.

https://variety.com/2025/film/reviews/ask-e-jean-review-documentary-sued-trump-1236501909/

It has got some good reviews.

I do not think it has a distributor yet.

Some may stay away from it unless they experience the ire of one of the worst presidents ever.

twodogsbarking

(15,775 posts)
44. Supreme Court expected to rule that rape is ok if you are Trump or if the victim is a relative.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 08:59 PM
Sep 4

Sounds extreme and crazy but look at where we are sports fans.

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