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riversedge

(77,539 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:33 AM Wednesday

Massie: Trump 'may be covering for some rich and powerful people' in Epstein files

Source: the hill



by Tara Suter - 09/03/25 8:14 AM ET

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) late Tuesday said President Trump “may be covering for some rich and powerful people,” as the lawmaker pushes for more transparency in the case of convicted sex offender and late financier Jeffrey Epstein.


“I think the best way to clear President Trump’s name is to release all the files,” Massie told MSNBC’s “All In” host Chris Hayes. “I actually don’t think he’s done anything criminal; I think he may be covering for some rich and powerful people that are friends of his. And in fact, some of those billionaires are running ads against me in Kentucky right now.”

“One of them is in Epstein’s black book. So, we’re, you know, we’re getting close to the center of power here,” he continued in the clip, highlighted by Mediaite. “And I think, you know, embarrassment is not a reason to conceal all of this stuff.”.............







Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5483247-massie-trump-epstein-files/

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Massie: Trump 'may be covering for some rich and powerful people' in Epstein files (Original Post) riversedge Wednesday OP
May be covering? EYESORE 9001 Wednesday #1
He is covering for no one but himself. gab13by13 Wednesday #5
Okee dokee EYESORE 9001 Wednesday #6
True leftieNanner Wednesday #28
That is 100% correct. trump doesn't care if everyone else falls, he las no loyalty to anyone but himself, so NO Escurumbele Wednesday #39
And you can bet, if there were as many high roller democrats in that slightlv Wednesday #45
And How Rarely Do We Hear of a Liberal/Progressive Making (OK, for The Roux Comes First Thursday #52
Yep... With the price for a great escort being around $3,000 and the over night part adding in an additional $10,000, LiberalArkie Wednesday #11
Like himself Mz Pip Wednesday #2
... UpInArms Wednesday #3
Another BS article from The Hill gab13by13 Wednesday #4
Like himself? His wife? Autumn Wednesday #7
His donors Bayard Wednesday #16
He doesn't care about his donors. He's protecting himself. Autumn Wednesday #18
That too Bayard Wednesday #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Wednesday #20
For someone claiming innocence or that the whole thing is all a "Democrat hoax" I'll just paraphrase... the nelm Wednesday #47
Oh. The people he gives awards to. bucolic_frolic Wednesday #8
If it was working class people going to markodochartaigh Wednesday #9
If they are rich and powerful why would they care? Like, if they are, who can touch them? They will still have their Srkdqltr Wednesday #10
Epstein's pedophelia ring was likely a vast international kompromat effort, probably backed by foreign sop Wednesday #12
This is alluded to in Michael Wolff's books... slightlv Wednesday #46
Let's not be fooled, Rep. Thomas Massie has his own angle on this story FakeNoose Wednesday #13
Ruh roh. twodogsbarking Wednesday #14
What a guy, taking a huge political hit to protect his friends William Seger Wednesday #15
Yeah, himself. choie Wednesday #17
Massie, I'm betting he is trying to cover his own ass. republianmushroom Wednesday #21
Massie wouldn't do this unless he thought it would benefit him in some way. patphil Wednesday #22
I suspect Massie knows that trump's guilty as hell, 70sEraVet Wednesday #23
"I actually don't think he's done anything criminal" Rob H. Wednesday #24
Yeah, that caught my attention, too not fooled Wednesday #25
What credibility? mwmisses4289 Wednesday #29
"covering for some rich and powerful people that are friends of his" - Aiding and abetting isn't a crime?? Beartracks Wednesday #26
Trump only protects or enriches himself. Irish_Dem Wednesday #27
No kidding popsdenver Wednesday #40
I think Putin already has the list. Irish_Dem Wednesday #42
Maybe the terse meeting popsdenver Wednesday #43
Yes quite possible. Irish_Dem Wednesday #44
Hans? underpants Wednesday #30
Duh Deep State Witch Wednesday #31
Uh YEAH Faux pas Wednesday #32
Like himself Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Wednesday #33
Don't forget popsdenver Wednesday #41
d'oh BoRaGard Wednesday #34
donors Evolve Dammit Wednesday #35
Massie is a fucking idiot if he genuinely thinks Trump isn't in there and he's doing this just to protect his old Karasu Wednesday #36
Unless he could get a great payoff from them? Yoyoyo77 Wednesday #48
Maybe it's Maybelline Blue Owl Wednesday #37
Since when did the Orange Rapist/Pedifile nwduke Wednesday #38
If it's not because he's in them, then it's because he's needs to get something out of them $$$. ToxMarz Wednesday #49
Release the Pedogate file already! Aussie105 Thursday #50
Now, Please Bow Your Heads, and Open Your Prayer Books to the Epstein Client List MrWowWow Thursday #51
Two things to check Snoopy 7 Thursday #53
Michael Wolff says Epstein show him polaroids of Trump with topless young girls on his lap. mackdaddy Thursday #54

leftieNanner

(16,038 posts)
28. True
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:06 PM
Wednesday

But I heard massive say the same thing on Chris Hayes last night.

The Goon is probably protecting others, but mostly himself.

Escurumbele

(3,873 posts)
39. That is 100% correct. trump doesn't care if everyone else falls, he las no loyalty to anyone but himself, so NO
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:01 PM
Wednesday

he is not covering for anyone but himself.

slightlv

(6,516 posts)
45. And you can bet, if there were as many high roller democrats in that
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:16 PM
Wednesday

info as the right tries to scream about, trump would have unleashed the files a long time ago. Nope. Don't believe it. The files contain HIS name on every page, each description of sexual abuse is exampled by him, and his list of movers and shakers in the repug world are overly represented. How many times do you hear about a dem arrested for pedophilia, vs a repug... or a right wing preacher?

The Roux Comes First

(1,818 posts)
52. And How Rarely Do We Hear of a Liberal/Progressive Making (OK, for
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:21 AM
Thursday

Sex-abuse claims about their opponents?!

LiberalArkie

(18,861 posts)
11. Yep... With the price for a great escort being around $3,000 and the over night part adding in an additional $10,000,
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:00 AM
Wednesday

I wonder how much the island costs? Add in how much more the underage part cost the John? And at a protected resort?

I would figure that at Epstein's price would be cheaper with the Russians picking up the tab for a bit of it because of the cameras and all, but still I can't imagine a normal person, even a CEO would ever be invited there.

gab13by13

(29,632 posts)
4. Another BS article from The Hill
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:39 AM
Wednesday

The rag that John Solomon wrote article after article about the stolen 2020 election.

When in the world would Krasnov care about anyone but himself?

The notion that Krasnov doesn't want to release the Epstein files is because it would hurt powerful people is laughable and is a right wing talking point.

Krasnov doesn't want those files released because it would show the world the pedophile that he is.

Response to Autumn (Reply #18)

the nelm

(153 posts)
47. For someone claiming innocence or that the whole thing is all a "Democrat hoax" I'll just paraphrase...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:36 PM
Wednesday

Shakespeare. "Methinks he dost protest too much". (And he apparently never learned the lesson from the Nixon years. The coverup can be worse than the crime. Unless, of course, it turns out that he is, in fact, in it up to his eyeballs.)

markodochartaigh

(3,792 posts)
9. If it was working class people going to
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:54 AM
Wednesday

Epstein's island the full list would have been available on day one.
Of course it is rich and powerful people.

Srkdqltr

(8,850 posts)
10. If they are rich and powerful why would they care? Like, if they are, who can touch them? They will still have their
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:57 AM
Wednesday

money. and power.

sop

(15,807 posts)
12. Epstein's pedophelia ring was likely a vast international kompromat effort, probably backed by foreign
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:04 AM
Wednesday

intelligence agencies, maybe even domestic ones. It's pretty clear Trump was somehow involved. Ripping the lid off and exposing all the sleazy details of Epstein's sex-with-underage-girls-blackmail operation will seriously damage a lot of people. That's a good thing.

slightlv

(6,516 posts)
46. This is alluded to in Michael Wolff's books...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:18 PM
Wednesday

and it makes the most logical sense when all the players (and possible players) are considered.

FakeNoose

(38,493 posts)
13. Let's not be fooled, Rep. Thomas Massie has his own angle on this story
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:06 AM
Wednesday
"... And in fact, some of those billionaires are running ads against me in Kentucky right now.”


This strategy might come back and bite him on the butt. Or maybe not ... if Chump is too busy putting out fires to notice.

William Seger

(11,786 posts)
15. What a guy, taking a huge political hit to protect his friends
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:46 AM
Wednesday
Yeah, that's our favorite malignant narcissist, alright.

republianmushroom

(21,238 posts)
21. Massie, I'm betting he is trying to cover his own ass.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:30 AM
Wednesday

He could care less about anybody else ass except for his.

Massie, how dumb are you ?

patphil

(8,208 posts)
22. Massie wouldn't do this unless he thought it would benefit him in some way.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:18 PM
Wednesday

He's been in the House since January of 2013. Why this big push now?
I don't think he's worried about his seat in the House; he won by a huge margin in the last 2 elections. He sees Trump as weak on this issue, and isn't worried about a primary challenge.
My guess is he has political ambitions beyond the House.

70sEraVet

(4,832 posts)
23. I suspect Massie knows that trump's guilty as hell,
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:22 PM
Wednesday

But he's got to play for his voting base. His base wants the release of the Epstein files, but they are convinced that the files will not reveal any wrong-doing by the Tangerine Traitor.

Rob H.

(5,705 posts)
24. "I actually don't think he's done anything criminal"
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:43 PM
Wednesday

Based on Trump's thus far sterling reputation, or...?

not fooled

(6,451 posts)
25. Yeah, that caught my attention, too
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:59 PM
Wednesday

"I actually don't think he's done anything criminal"



Geez, how dumb does he think we are? His credibility just vanished.


Beartracks

(14,078 posts)
26. "covering for some rich and powerful people that are friends of his" - Aiding and abetting isn't a crime??
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:04 PM
Wednesday

I don't think covering up for pedophiles is part of the President's official business, so it's still wrong even when the President does it.

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Irish_Dem

(73,831 posts)
27. Trump only protects or enriches himself.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:04 PM
Wednesday

If he is protecting others they have paid him well for it.

popsdenver

(376 posts)
40. No kidding
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:27 PM
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Trump already has the entire client list and all of the evidence, and is planning on his largest grift ever........Black mailing all of Epstein's clients.........

Maybe that was the reason for the Alaska meeting........Putin was demanding half and wanted to tell Trump in person.......

Irish_Dem

(73,831 posts)
42. I think Putin already has the list.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:44 PM
Wednesday

I think Putin was involved with Epstein, there is a Russian connection.

Putin is already involved in sex and drug trafficking.

popsdenver

(376 posts)
43. Maybe the terse meeting
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:49 PM
Wednesday

in Alaska, was Putin telling Trump to not horn in on HIS blackmailing the clients........( Actually, Trump called it repeatedly, "the meeting in RUSSIA&quot

Irish_Dem

(73,831 posts)
44. Yes quite possible.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:01 PM
Wednesday

Trump wanted a cut of the profits.
And more info on the blackmail.

Putin blackmail might be a reason why all the billionaires, congress, courts, judges, corporations, etc
have folded like lawn chairs giving Trump and Putin what they want. Were many of them
ensnared in Putin's trap?

Putin is an old KGB agent. He knows how to run this kind of operation.

Deep State Witch

(12,151 posts)
31. Duh
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:12 PM
Wednesday

That's the whole point of this. We know he was in thick with Epstein. The question is, who else was a client? Putin? Netanyahu? MBS?

popsdenver

(376 posts)
41. Don't forget
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:31 PM
Wednesday

that Rush Limbaugh was running similar jet junkets to Thailand, etc, with the CEO's, Politicians, and UBER rich.....

Karasu

(1,956 posts)
36. Massie is a fucking idiot if he genuinely thinks Trump isn't in there and he's doing this just to protect his old
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:46 PM
Wednesday

friends...all of whom he'd gladly throw under the bus without a second thought if it came down to them or him.

nwduke

(434 posts)
38. Since when did the Orange Rapist/Pedifile
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:53 PM
Wednesday

care about anyone but himself! He’s runner scared and looking more and more guilty as he continues to hide and obstruct and use his favorite word for getting busted “hoax”!

ToxMarz

(2,548 posts)
49. If it's not because he's in them, then it's because he's needs to get something out of them $$$.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:14 PM
Wednesday

Either pay me to keep them under wraps, or pay me to release them. Everything is a grift.

Aussie105

(7,158 posts)
50. Release the Pedogate file already!
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:09 AM
Thursday

The one the victims (aka eyewitnesses) are compiling.

Then we will know who Trump is protecting. Hs own ass or others?

Snoopy 7

(678 posts)
53. Two things to check
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:43 AM
Thursday

There are two thing to check to verify trumps involvement with epstine crimes. One the rich should be dumping millions into trumps crypto (aka bribery). Second why isn't anyone looking at the epstine's actual handler, ISRAEL, they are the ones who used epstine as a spy. Therefore, they knew of the child abuse and condoned the abuse of children, don't forget prince charles's payoff of £12m to survivor Virginia Giuffre. The Israelis were blackmailing some very powerful leaders of this world.

mackdaddy

(1,846 posts)
54. Michael Wolff says Epstein show him polaroids of Trump with topless young girls on his lap.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:51 AM
Thursday

And I would not be surprised if there is not tapes of Trump with young girls as in the Katy Johnson complaints.

Trump is protecting himself.

He probably did not realize how much and how bad what Epstein has really was. And, this is the first real thing that would seriously chunk at his base. MTG is not following lockstep for god's sake.

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