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demmiblue

(38,718 posts)
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:02 PM Sep 2

US military 'conducted a lethal strike' on alleged 'drug vessel' in southern Caribbean, Rubio says

Source: CNN

The United States “conducted a lethal strike” against an alleged “drug vessel” coming from Venezuela, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Tuesday.

“As @potus just announced moments ago, today the U.S. military conducted a lethal strike in the southern Carribean against a drug vessel which had departed from Venezuela and was being operated by a designated narco-terrorist organization,” Rubio said in a post on X after President Donald Trump referenced the incident in Oval Office remarks.

The use of military force against Latin American drug cartels represents a significant escalation by the Trump administration and could have serious implicatons for the region.

The US has amassed a large number of military assets around the Caribbean and Latin America, drawing the ire of Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/02/politics/us-military-strike-caribbean

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US military 'conducted a lethal strike' on alleged 'drug vessel' in southern Caribbean, Rubio says (Original Post) demmiblue Sep 2 OP
I cannot believe anything announced by this administration without independent verification. jls4561 Sep 2 #1
Maduro claimed eight U.S. military vessels "with 1,200 missiles" were targeting his country LeftInTX Sep 2 #3
I know, right? ShazzieB Sep 3 #52
Venezuela JBTaurus83 Sep 2 #2
Which means they probably sunk a small fishing boat Bayard Sep 2 #4
Yes and no - there's a picture at CNN of the boat in sights. It's the size of a small fishing boat muriel_volestrangler Sep 2 #13
That was my first thought hookaleft Sep 3 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Sep 2 #5
The US Navy has the capacity to arrest and board that vessel. Easily. maxsolomon Sep 2 #6
That's usually how it's done with the Coast Guard's assistance Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2 #16
When all else fails - start a friggin' war - we can all get our yellow ribbons and beat our chest. walkingman Sep 2 #7
Modern day version of the Gulf of Tonkin. GP6971 Sep 2 #27
Not ours. The media's. It's the distraction from his crimes and grifts that will last for days of news cycles. ancianita Sep 3 #36
Trial by ballistic missile. C_U_L8R Sep 2 #8
Either Rubio is lying or the US Navy went WAY beyond what's normal groundloop Sep 2 #9
Depends OC375 Sep 2 #11
Or that they would go all the way over there for the "war on drugs"...but..... LeftInTX Sep 2 #17
The Epstein victims are publicly speaking out tomorrow. Coincidence? Jim__ Sep 2 #10
Not a chance. groundloop Sep 2 #18
Not at all. ShazzieB Sep 3 #53
So now he's finally a war president? ananda Sep 2 #12
There goes that Nobel Peace Prize. murielm99 Sep 3 #32
He could have sunk a toy boat or two in his bathtub (w/o loss of life) and accomplished the same thing. n/t the nelm Sep 3 #44
That is exactly what he did. ananda Sep 3 #49
A drug cartel ship is not a military target SpankMe Sep 2 #14
"Wag the dog"! ashredux Sep 2 #15
Jeesus Fucking H Christ, they didn't even attempt to stop the boat..... just blew it out of the water. groundloop Sep 2 #19
I think he wants something from Maduro and is trying to intimidate. LeftInTX Sep 2 #20
Very well could be...... and tRump doesn't care who he kills to get what he wants. groundloop Sep 2 #21
Yes. This also serves other purposes. One of long term media distraction, one of being a "protector" against ancianita Sep 3 #37
I watched the video of the incident angrychair Sep 2 #22
More than likely the cargo on that thing was people. It sure as hell wasn't breaking speed records Cheezoholic Sep 2 #23
Exactly.... if it was only drugs there would have only been 2 or 3 people in the boat groundloop Sep 2 #28
It looks like a drug runner boat to me. But it certainly doesn't justify blowing the thing up! LeftInTX Sep 3 #38
Time to fly the Jolly Roger! BidenRocks Sep 2 #24
The Secretary of State announces military actions on social media platforms? Prairie Gates Sep 2 #25
It was late... underpants Sep 2 #26
Here is how I expect they did this DUU Sep 2 #29
Sounds solid. Thanks. ancianita Sep 3 #40
Yes, this is true. However, this is to authorize LAW ENFORCEMENT, not non-judicial executions without trial. There is artemisia1 Sep 3 #54
nothing more than a lie azureblue Sep 2 #30
Most Laughable popsdenver Sep 3 #46
Just another minor story they are using to prop themselves up and make it look like they care jgmiller Sep 2 #31
THERE WAS A VIDEO..... THAT BOAT WAS BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER !!!!!!!!! groundloop Sep 3 #33
No attempt to capture pfitz59 Sep 3 #34
The normal method to intercepting a drug vessel would be "stop and search" Old Testament Libera Sep 3 #39
Just another popsdenver Sep 3 #47
All this strongman smashing, murderous drama serves many ends. A fabricated national security threat is only one of them ancianita Sep 3 #41
the distractions from Epstein are getting lethal Skittles Sep 3 #42
everything is a nail to these morons. nt Javaman Sep 3 #43
If the purpose of a drug smuggling boat.. MarcoZandrini Sep 3 #45
EXACTLY............. popsdenver Sep 3 #48
EPSTEIN FILES!! tonekat Sep 3 #50
This proves that the military will follow orders Miguelito Loveless Sep 3 #51
'Enormous scandal': Chris Hayes reacts to Trump's deadly strike on 'drug-carrying boat' - All In - MSNBC Rhiannon12866 Sep 4 #55

LeftInTX

(33,891 posts)
3. Maduro claimed eight U.S. military vessels "with 1,200 missiles" were targeting his country
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:20 PM
Sep 2

Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro on Monday said he "would constitutionally declare a republic in arms" if the South American country were attacked by forces that the United States government has deployed to the Caribbean.

Maduro claimed eight U.S. military vessels "with 1,200 missiles" were targeting his country, calling them "the greatest threat that has been seen on our continent in the last 100 years," AFP reported.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maduro-venezuela-us-troops-caribbean/


ShazzieB

(21,602 posts)
52. I know, right?
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:15 PM
Sep 3

He lies about everything, and so do all the sycophants and toadies in his administration. I can't think of a single reason why we should take their word for anything, much less something this big.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,693 posts)
13. Yes and no - there's a picture at CNN of the boat in sights. It's the size of a small fishing boat
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 06:17 PM
Sep 2

but looks like it has powerful outboard motors and is going at speed. Sure, I'd suspect it was smuggling something, and drugs would be the obvious thing. But blowing it apart and killing 11 (I'm surprised it's that many - if so, then there's not a lot of space for drugs) in international waters on suspicion, without an apparent attempt to capture it? Out of control authoritarianism.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

maxsolomon

(37,356 posts)
6. The US Navy has the capacity to arrest and board that vessel. Easily.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:24 PM
Sep 2

But no, lets' blow it up good.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(128,638 posts)
16. That's usually how it's done with the Coast Guard's assistance
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:09 PM
Sep 2

But it sounds like Whiskey Pete Kegbreath is trying to impress his boss.

walkingman

(9,832 posts)
7. When all else fails - start a friggin' war - we can all get our yellow ribbons and beat our chest.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:25 PM
Sep 2

ancianita

(41,788 posts)
36. Not ours. The media's. It's the distraction from his crimes and grifts that will last for days of news cycles.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:36 AM
Sep 3

C_U_L8R

(48,049 posts)
8. Trial by ballistic missile.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:48 PM
Sep 2

If dementia-rattled Trump imagines some boat is a drug vessel, then apparently all aboard are sentenced to die.

groundloop

(13,271 posts)
9. Either Rubio is lying or the US Navy went WAY beyond what's normal
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:50 PM
Sep 2

At MOST the Coast Guard or Navy would shoot out the engine and disable the boat, then it could be boarded with no loss of life. I've seen plenty of videos of them doing just that. I just find it really hard to believe that those aboard that vessel would be summarily executed. Nobody would be insane enough to start a gunfight while being overwhelmingly outnumbered by the US military.

OC375

(261 posts)
11. Depends
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:59 PM
Sep 2

If the cartel is telling you "If someone tries to take these drugs, and we hear you didn't die trying to defending them, we'll torture your family to death." you might consider firing at the US Navy preferrable. Just speculation, but I've heard of worse threats to those who "mule" for cartels.

LeftInTX

(33,891 posts)
17. Or that they would go all the way over there for the "war on drugs"...but.....
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:10 PM
Sep 2

We've done stuff like that before, but it's been a while. (80's Central America. mixed up with regimes and drugs)

It is weird: "We don't like your gangs." (The gangs are not sanctioned by Maduro) "Let's blow up a boat"

Trump is probably trying to strike a deal with Maduro....

groundloop

(13,271 posts)
18. Not a chance.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:44 PM
Sep 2

This was a lethal distraction (if lil' Marco is telling us what really happened).

ShazzieB

(21,602 posts)
53. Not at all.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:53 PM
Sep 3

In addition to wanting to create a distraction. I also think Schlump is desperate to find a way to make himself look like a hero right now. His approval ratings are in the toilet, and he's being bombarded by criticiam over all kinds of things from virtually all directions, even from his base in some cases. And there was his spectacular failure to end the war in Ukraine, which everybody except him knew was doomed from the start. Making a complete fool of himself in front of the entire world like that must have been a huge blow for him.

Don't let the bragging and bluster fool you; Schlump needs approval and acclaim to survive, the way the rest of us need food and water, and he's not getting much of either these days. He's got to be running perilously low on narcissistic supply.

On top of everything else, he knows he looks weak (all the rumors swirling around his health aren't helping with this), and he desperately needs for people to see him as strong and powerful. This is just the kind of thing that he would see as a way to accomplish that.

ananda

(33,137 posts)
12. So now he's finally a war president?
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 06:02 PM
Sep 2

He's been salivating for military action for quite a while.

the nelm

(167 posts)
44. He could have sunk a toy boat or two in his bathtub (w/o loss of life) and accomplished the same thing. n/t
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 07:40 AM
Sep 3

ananda

(33,137 posts)
49. That is exactly what he did.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:08 PM
Sep 3

He really wants to play war right now..
except it's not really the game he
thinks it is.

SpankMe

(3,597 posts)
14. A drug cartel ship is not a military target
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 06:22 PM
Sep 2

Unless this ship was literally bearing down on the US coast, the US military should not be engaging them - especially so far away from a US border. This is a law enforcement problem and not a military concern.

I know it's a tough law enforcement problem, and that it might seem easier to blow drug ships out of the water long before drugs hit the US streets. But, it sets a bad precedent and upends US military policy that has existed since WWII.

If the US feels it absolutely has to do this for some national security reason, they should be humble about it and be very transparent with the evidence they have that merited such a severe action. Photos, intelligence, Venezuelan indifference, everything. You need to get the American people on board.

groundloop

(13,271 posts)
19. Jeesus Fucking H Christ, they didn't even attempt to stop the boat..... just blew it out of the water.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:00 PM
Sep 2

All 11 aboard were killed. Here's a link to an updated Guardian story, as well as footage of the massacre if you have the stomach to watch.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/02/trump-venezuela-boat-lethal-strike






I'm not up on maritime law, but it seems to me this borders on criminal. The people in that boat never made any attempt to fire at US forces. AND with that many people in the boat (there's normally 2 or 3 from the dozens of videos I've seen of drug boat take downs) I'll wager that a large portion of those people were passengers who paid to be taken somewhere. We'll never know the truth on that.

LeftInTX

(33,891 posts)
20. I think he wants something from Maduro and is trying to intimidate.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:21 PM
Sep 2

Sometimes they do things to assist the opposition with a regime change, but this approach certainly does not look like it would be effective.

I think he wants Madura to take back Venezuelans from the US.

ancianita

(41,788 posts)
37. Yes. This also serves other purposes. One of long term media distraction, one of being a "protector" against
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:43 AM
Sep 3

drug criminals, meeting his deportee quotas, etc.

angrychair

(11,127 posts)
22. I watched the video of the incident
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:47 PM
Sep 2

That is straight up murder. You don't know if they really had drugs and when did we get into the murdering people for drugs business? This is a huge deal and should be the only thing we are talking about right now.

Cheezoholic

(3,288 posts)
23. More than likely the cargo on that thing was people. It sure as hell wasn't breaking speed records
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:26 PM
Sep 2

Of course thats all speculation but like many have said, I do not believe I can remember the Navy blowing a suspected drug boat out of the water like that. They usually board them for the big PR picture the next day like what just happened last week with that Coast Guard seizure of cocaine. Plus once you get the smugglers you can interrogate and infiltrate. FatFuck sent a bunch of MS-13 leaders back to Venezuela and to El Salvador. Something is fishy as fuck about this.

groundloop

(13,271 posts)
28. Exactly.... if it was only drugs there would have only been 2 or 3 people in the boat
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 10:43 PM
Sep 2

Extra people would slow the boat and limit the amount of drug cargo, and there's no way in hell a go fast boat NEEDS that many people aboard. Guaranteed they were paying passengers

LeftInTX

(33,891 posts)
38. It looks like a drug runner boat to me. But it certainly doesn't justify blowing the thing up!
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:46 AM
Sep 3

BidenRocks

(2,192 posts)
24. Time to fly the Jolly Roger!
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:27 PM
Sep 2

What reliable intel would they be operating under?

By what right can we attack a ship outside of our territorial waters?

DUU

(64 posts)
29. Here is how I expect they did this
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 10:56 PM
Sep 2

I was a USCG contractor a decade+ ago and saw something similar. Look up DOD 3025.21 Defense Support of Law Enforcement, 2013 for the background.
Presidential legal findings (from Bush and Obama) have found it legal to put a USCG officer on a USN asset (usually a smaller vessel(s) like a destroyer). When the area of operations is reached, the Navy captain steps down and the Coastie assumes temporary command of the ship, while in communication with appropriate USCG Chain of Command.
During this period, any capability, weapon or personnel are under the control of the USCG and not USN. I expect what we read today was under similar circumstances and control, avoiding direct challenge to the Posse Comitatus act.

(PS: Don’t shoot the messenger I’m just providing a historical perspective)

artemisia1

(1,126 posts)
54. Yes, this is true. However, this is to authorize LAW ENFORCEMENT, not non-judicial executions without trial. There is
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:27 PM
Sep 3

no legal dressing for this using the USCG as cover. I spent years wearing the Coast Guard uniform.

azureblue

(2,559 posts)
30. nothing more than a lie
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 11:03 PM
Sep 2

Trump wants to invade Venezuela, and he did what he always does, creates a reason to do it. All they did was blow up a fishing boat, then lie about it.

popsdenver

(471 posts)
46. Most Laughable
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:56 AM
Sep 3

Even if it was a drug running boat, the reality is that it would represent .000000001% of the drugs being brought into the U.S...................

The massive amount of drugs being brought in are from China, as reported by the DEA, using existing U.S. Ports and shipping containers on the Western U.S. Ports, or into Mexico and brought north by the Mexican Cartels. And yet, Trump goes after a small boat supposedly coming up from south america with our military forces...........ludicrous. Why not use them screening all shipping containers coming into US ports from China and Mexico??????????????????????????????

Their logic is as Topsy-Turvy as that found in watching Alice In Wonderland on Acid...................

Venuzuella is being targeted for gaining control of the massive amount of oil they are bringing to market????????

jgmiller

(640 posts)
31. Just another minor story they are using to prop themselves up and make it look like they care
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 11:13 PM
Sep 2

The CG, DEA and sometimes the navy intercept boats all the time and sometimes they even shoot at them and sink them. So they did something that isn't that unusual but made it sound more violent by saying it was a kinetic strike, aren't all strikes kinetic? I mean I don't think we're using lasers yet to sink boats.

groundloop

(13,271 posts)
33. THERE WAS A VIDEO..... THAT BOAT WAS BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER !!!!!!!!!
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:25 AM
Sep 3

This wasn't simply an "intercept".

39. The normal method to intercepting a drug vessel would be "stop and search"
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:46 AM
Sep 3

But Trump and Rubio and Hegseth just want to blow things up, apparently. Probably was just a fishing boat. If they had some kind of intelligence about this, did it come from Tulsi Gabbard?

This could also be a kind of open invitation to the Chinese and Russians to blow up "American-looking" boats in or near their waters.

popsdenver

(471 posts)
47. Just another
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:58 AM
Sep 3

act similar to a False Flag Operation to deflect attention from the Epstein story......................

ancianita

(41,788 posts)
41. All this strongman smashing, murderous drama serves many ends. A fabricated national security threat is only one of them
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:50 AM
Sep 3
Winning the next two elections is another end...




MarcoZandrini

(110 posts)
45. If the purpose of a drug smuggling boat..
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:51 AM
Sep 3

… is to carry as much of a load of drugs as possible, then why were there 11 people onboard?

popsdenver

(471 posts)
48. EXACTLY.............
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:01 AM
Sep 3

besides the Dug lords are using rudimentary submarines with massive amounts of drugs on board, and manned with two or three people.....

tonekat

(2,349 posts)
50. EPSTEIN FILES!!
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:26 PM
Sep 3

He can attempt to distract all he wants with his little performances, but we have not forgotten about:

THE EPSTEIN FILES!!

Rhiannon12866

(242,852 posts)
55. 'Enormous scandal': Chris Hayes reacts to Trump's deadly strike on 'drug-carrying boat' - All In - MSNBC
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 05:27 AM
Sep 4


“Whatever pretext this administration may claim, this looks for all the world like a flagrant violation of U.S. and international law,” says Chris Hayes on Trump boasting about the U.S. military’s deadly strike on a boat he says was carrying drugs from Venezuela. - Aired on 09/03/2025.
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