This is the big announcement? Kraznov is throwing more tax dollars into the fire?

When I started seeing some buzzy news referencing DOD early this morning, I was thinking it would be an announcement about a "renaming" of the "Department of Defense" to the "Department of War" (which conceivably could still happen at that time).

Most folks already know Huntsville's been a key military/tech town for a while ... looks like trump's moving the space op command back to where it started...

and despite it's historic significance in the Civil Rights struggle (and the brief reprieve from it with Doug Jones as a (D) Senator from there), they are probably not going to go blue any time soon.

And with respect to Huntsville - NASA has had it's "Space Camp" there for some time -

When headlines like this happen, it's always good to review some context for it. Thanks for your geekiness!

Their "last Convention tour" together (the tour was in multiple venues around the country) in 2003. Got a weekend pass. Lots of fun!!!

(had to borrow my sister's car because mine was in the shop )

Nice sister!

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Nobody want to give up COS for 'Bama. I sure wouldn't.
As is said on many occasions in the USSF: Semper Soon...

Although Huntsville is said to be more culturally aware and politically moderate (though still red) than the rest of Alabama, the lifestyle in southern Colorado is far more appealing to far more people. The Space Force will lose competent officers, and the support staff will be a bunch of Jethro's.

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The Air Force Academy is also in the Springs and and has increasing course offerings on strategic space. This colocation is an excellent match.

Trump is doing this to hurt a blue state and reward a red one, and also to reflexively nix a Biden policy. Not exactly an algorithm for mission success.

This should be added to the list of things for the next Dem president (if there is one) to reverse, no matter how expensive.

has someone as mayor who 45 would not "like". Yemi Mobalade (elected in 2023 and ran as an independent).

https://flycos.coloradosprings.gov/mayor-yemi-mobolade

Colorado Springs Mayor Yemi Mobolade discusses historic win as first Black immigrant to lead city



He immigrated here from that "shit hole" country of Nigeria. But he is one of the Nigerian Christians (who live in the south of Nigeria, where the Muslims are mostly in the north), and was very devoted to it.

Remember that much of what 45's administration does is for white supremacy and the election of this mayor suggests that the city is not as "deep red" as it used to be.

There is a strong Christian presence in Colorado Springs. Think of Focus on the Family, Young Life, Compassion International - the usual gang of suspects. Almost all of them are fundamentalist or leaning in that direction. The Evangelicals who live in Colorado Springs are some of Trump's biggest fans. They voted in this mayor because he is a staunch Christian - one of them despite the color of his skin. If anything, my hometown is becoming MORE red, not less.

where you have Colorado Springs versus this -

Alabama town’s first Black mayor, who had been locked out of office, wins election

"More red" (IMHO) would be to basically go foaming-at-the-mouth MAGat "red".

he was a pastor. I had figured that a runoff would be between Sally Clark (who we could at least talk to reasonably) and scumbag wayne williams, whom I thorougly despise. I was shocked when it ended up between williams and him. I knew that developers' dream williams would be an utter disaster. And, sadly, yemi has proven to be almost as bad as I figured he would be.

and read about how he was campaigning and did a (because many of us know that type). But then it underscores some differences between the eastern and southern GOP vs the ones out west. I.e., a different kind of "code talking" and he apparently resonated.

Hillary by over 50% to beating Kamala by only 16%, when our Dem candidate madevan impressive run against lamborn's replacement, when some 3,000 people (as reported even by the local fishwrap) showed up at the first protest this year. .things look slightly more hopeful. Dems are working hard here, against very difficult odds.

I do live in the slightly bluer, less fundie, part of town, which is helpful. I don't have to encounter quite so many assholes.

Used to be on DU. She's the only liberal in town.

My grandfather worked at Redstone arsenal there, and it was an early home to many of the German rocket scientists we inherited after WWII. Not saying this is the right move, but there is a historical precedent for it.

About that STUPID woman that he said release this poor woman from prison? (she would not allow marriage license to same sex couple, plus allowed entrance to County election machine?)Or am i confused about this?

kim davis of KY (opposes same sex marriage). both disgusting scum.

He did threaten Colorado, so i'm thinking this decision is happening because Colorado told TSF to go to hell. Again TY for your response.

is merely a distraction. Don't forget, he is busy undoing everything President Biden did, which includes having Space Force in Colorado Springs.

Space Force is a branch of the US Armed Forces that was initiated by Trump in his first term, and is headquartered in the Pentagon like all the other branches.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Force
https://www.spaceforce.mil/

Space Command is an operational group that coordinates and directs the actions of several branches of the Armed Forces in terms of actions in space.

https://www.spacecom.mil/

These are two separate entities.
It does appear that Trump wants to move Space Command, not Space Force.

but Space Force also has its Ops Command operating out of CO as well.

atmosphere.

the US/Canada North American Aerospace Defense Command. In the early 2000s, USSPACECOM was disestablished and its missions subsumed by US Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM). At that time, US Northern COMMAND (USNORTHCOM) was established and co-located with NORAD.

Peterson AFB, on the east side of Colorado Springs, remains the home for USNORTHCOM and NORAD. USSPACECOM will move to Huntsville, Alabama.

As noted in another post, the US Space Force is not a command but a military service which is headquartered in the Pentagon.

Disclosure - I spent mid-1986 through mid-1990 assigned to the first USSPACECOM, working in two Ops Centers within Cheyenne Mountain. Both Centers were moved to Vandenberg AFB, CA, when USSTRATCOM took over the space missions.

require Alabama to lower it's crime rate as one of the nation's highest before sending them a reward .

he claims he's bringing 30,000 jobs to Alabama with this move, of course nobody called him out.

and officially change the name of the facility to YooEss 'Murican Spase Kummand."

He wouldn't be doing it if it weren't enriching him, personally---he's not even trying to hide it, anymore.

.... is located in Huntsville https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Space_Flight_Center