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lostincalifornia

(4,489 posts)
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:15 AM Sep 2

Trump's LA Troop Deployment Violated Federal Law, Judge Rules

Source: Bloomberg News

A US judge ruled President Donald Trump’s deployment of National Guard troops to Los Angeles during protests against his immigration crackdown violated federal law.

US District Judge Charles Breyer on Tuesday issued an order barring barring the use of troops deployed in California and any other military troops in the state “to execute the laws.” But he paused his ruling pending further legal action.

“There were indeed protests in Los Angeles, and some individuals engaged in violence,” Breyer wrote. “Yet there was no rebellion, nor was civilian law enforcement unable to respond to the protests and enforce the law.”

Read more: Bloomberg Newshttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-02/trump-s-la-troop-deployment-violated-federal-law-judge-rules



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Trump's LA Troop Deployment Violated Federal Law, Judge Rules (Original Post) lostincalifornia Sep 2 OP
Bloomberg only gives me 5 "gift links" per month and I can often find their articles on "msn" -but will provide one here BumRushDaShow Sep 2 #1
That is a problem BumRushDaShow, the firewall. Thanks bumrushdashow. Eventually the Bloomberg breaking new lostincalifornia Sep 2 #2
No problem! BumRushDaShow Sep 2 #8
I've used incognito with some luck Marthe48 Sep 2 #5
Often within about an hour or so, msn will have some Bloomberg articles BumRushDaShow Sep 2 #7
Trump's deployment of the military to Los Angeles violated the Posse Comitatus Act LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2 #3
Trump's deployment of the military to Los Angeles violated the Posse Comitatus Act LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2 #4
If this holds, which is questionable with THIS supreme court, then that should mean the other places he plans lostincalifornia Sep 2 #6
That *should be* the case but it's a coin flip given the 9th Circuit had ruled against them previously BumRushDaShow Sep 2 #9
Thanks. Everyday is something new. lostincalifornia Sep 2 #10
when i am going to see some teeth by these judges ? AllaN01Bear Sep 2 #11
Since every ruling is appealed immediately up the chain to the SCOTUS maxsolomon Sep 2 #23
"But he paused his ruling pending further legal action. "......... riversedge Sep 2 #12
They did the same crap with the tariffs, pushing it to the Supreme Court, who shouldn't even be taking these lostincalifornia Sep 2 #13
agree. Our downfall will be quick for some for many it will be slow, suffering downfall. riversedge Sep 2 #14
Dump doesn't give a rats ass about the law sakabatou Sep 2 #15
Judge Breyer says the Trump administration is "creating a national police force with the President as its chief." LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2 #16
DUH... ya mean, like in Russia? nt Justice matters. Sep 2 #20
Very good. J_William_Ryan Sep 2 #17
Only death will stop him from violating the laws of the (former) USA. nt Justice matters. Sep 2 #21
What Trump always relies on azureblue Sep 2 #18
Excellent! LudwigPastorius Sep 2 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author MayReasonRule Sep 2 #22
Use of federal troops in Los Angeles is unlawful, judge says LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2 #24
Deadline: Legal Blog-Judge rules Trump admin's use of military in Los Angeles violated Posse Comitatus Act LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2 #25
I expect Illinois to file in court as well. FloridaBlues Sep 2 #26
nd who goes to jail, Judge ? republianmushroom Sep 2 #27

BumRushDaShow

(160,228 posts)
1. Bloomberg only gives me 5 "gift links" per month and I can often find their articles on "msn" -but will provide one here
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:24 AM
Sep 2
No paywall (gift)

lostincalifornia

(4,489 posts)
2. That is a problem BumRushDaShow, the firewall. Thanks bumrushdashow. Eventually the Bloomberg breaking new
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:30 AM
Sep 2

gets to other outlets not encumbered by a firewall.

What I find nice about Bloomberg news is they are usually very accurate, without bias.

I will put your link in the OP giving you well deserved credit.

Thanks

BumRushDaShow

(160,228 posts)
8. No problem!
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:44 AM
Sep 2

They did a rare "scoop" over the regular "scoop" sites like CNBC!

More of the major sites have it now - AP, CNN, Reuters, CBS.

Marthe48

(21,833 posts)
5. I've used incognito with some luck
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:35 AM
Sep 2

I opened a link to the local paper last week,

If you use Google, you can find it in the Google drop down menu.

Thank you for providing links to news stories.

BumRushDaShow

(160,228 posts)
7. Often within about an hour or so, msn will have some Bloomberg articles
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:40 AM
Sep 2

and sometimes Yahoo! News or other outlets like Aol might also republish them (i.e., the news aggregators).

Firefox has what they call a "Reader Mode" (with a little "paper" icon at the end of the URL line) that will often let you read the articles, but stripped of their style sheets.

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,852 posts)
3. Trump's deployment of the military to Los Angeles violated the Posse Comitatus Act
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:33 AM
Sep 2

BREAKING: Judge Breyer rules that President Trump's deployment of the military to Los Angeles violated the Posse Comitatus Act, says Trump is using military as a "national police force with the president as its chief."

Injunction granted.

storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney.bsky.social) 2025-09-02T13:21:47.097Z

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,852 posts)
4. Trump's deployment of the military to Los Angeles violated the Posse Comitatus Act
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:35 AM
Sep 2
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/02/politics/national-guard-california-trump-posse-comitatus-act-breyer

A federal judge ruled Tuesday that President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth violated federal law by using the US military to help carry out law enforcement activities in and around Los Angeles this summer.

US District Judge Charles Breyer concluded that Trump’s use of thousands of federalized California National Guard members and US Marines to provide protection to federal agents during an aggressive immigration crackdown in the Los Angeles area ran afoul of the Posse Comitatus Act, a 19th Century law that generally prohibits the use of troops for domestic law enforcement purposes.

“The evidence at trial established that Defendants systematically used armed soldiers (whose identity was often obscured by protective armor) and military vehicles to set up protective perimeters and traffic blockades, engage in crowd control, and otherwise demonstrate a military presence in and around Los Angeles. In short, Defendants violated the Posse Comitatus Act,” Breyer wrote in a 52-page opinion.

lostincalifornia

(4,489 posts)
6. If this holds, which is questionable with THIS supreme court, then that should mean the other places he plans
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:38 AM
Sep 2

to send national guard troops to should also be blocked.


BumRushDaShow

(160,228 posts)
9. That *should be* the case but it's a coin flip given the 9th Circuit had ruled against them previously
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:48 AM
Sep 2

(although I don't think that 9th Circuit decision was an en banc ruling)

The stay of this ruling is until next week for L.A.

The D.C. deployment is a different animal that they have been trying to use to obfuscate what is "lawful" OUTSIDE OF that special circumstance, and justify going to other cities.

maxsolomon

(37,356 posts)
23. Since every ruling is appealed immediately up the chain to the SCOTUS
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 01:20 PM
Sep 2

and since they're permanently in the pocket of MFer, the answer is sadly NEVER.

the Judicial Branch is exposed as toothless.

riversedge

(77,794 posts)
12. "But he paused his ruling pending further legal action. ".........
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 10:24 AM
Sep 2

so, now Trump can continue to do what he wants to do!!

lostincalifornia

(4,489 posts)
13. They did the same crap with the tariffs, pushing it to the Supreme Court, who shouldn't even be taking these
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 10:29 AM
Sep 2

cases, but letting the lower court rulings stand.

We are so screwed.


LetMyPeopleVote

(169,852 posts)
16. Judge Breyer says the Trump administration is "creating a national police force with the President as its chief."
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 11:04 AM
Sep 2

azureblue

(2,560 posts)
18. What Trump always relies on
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 12:08 PM
Sep 2

Is the slow reaction time of the legal system. He does something illegal, so, to stop that, he has to be sued. And weeks pass from initiating the suit to the final ruling. Even years, if Trump abuses again, the appeals process. And by the time that has passed, the damage is done..

It's a game he plays over and over. He know she will never suffer full penalties because he can delay, appeal, delay again, appeal again, until The original charge has ossified.

Whet needs to happen is to declare Trump a vexatious litigant - one who abuses the legal system..

LudwigPastorius

(13,413 posts)
19. Excellent!
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 12:29 PM
Sep 2

So, I guess the House will file impeachment charges, followed by a swift trial and conviction in the Senate.

Response to lostincalifornia (Original post)

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,852 posts)
24. Use of federal troops in Los Angeles is unlawful, judge says
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 01:26 PM
Sep 2

U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer issued the order prohibiting troops.

Use of federal troops in Los Angeles is unlawful, judge says https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/federal-troops-los-angeles-unlawful-judge/story?id=125179111
#fivethirtyeight #elections #news

Fivethirtyeight 🤖 (@fivethirtyeight.universeodon.com.ap.brid.gy) 2025-09-02T14:03:31.000Z


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/federal-troops-los-angeles-unlawful-judge/story

The Trump administration's use of federal troops in Los Angeles to conduct law enforcement operations is unlawful, a federal judge ruled on Tuesday.

U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer issued an order prohibiting troops from engaging in security patrols, riot control, arrests, searches and crowd control. The order does not take effect until Sept. 12 to allow the Trump administration to appeal.

Breyer said the use of federal troops effectively created a "national police force with the president as its chief" and violated the Posse Comitatus Act.

"The evidence at trial established that Defendants systematically used armed soldiers (whose identity was often obscured by protective armor) and military vehicles to set up protective perimeters and traffic blockades, engage in crowd control, and otherwise demonstrate a military presence in and around Los Angeles. In short, Defendants violated the Posse Comitatus Act," Breyer wrote.....

Breyer issued his decision after holding a three-day trial last month featuring testimony from military leadership about the ongoing operations in the Los Angeles area.

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,852 posts)
25. Deadline: Legal Blog-Judge rules Trump admin's use of military in Los Angeles violated Posse Comitatus Act
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:57 PM
Sep 2

U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer paused his ruling from taking effect until Sept. 12, giving the administration time to appeal.

Judge rules Trump admin’s use of military in Los Angeles violated Posse Comitatus Act
www.msnbc.com

BethE (@beth-e.bsky.social) 2025-09-02T18:47:57.317Z

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/military-los-angeles-trump-posse-comitatus-rcna228564

A federal judge ruled Tuesday that the Trump administration broke the law in its use of the military in Los Angeles. If upheld on appeal, the ruling will stand as a check on President Donald Trump’s use of the military for domestic law enforcement and serve as a broader reminder that Trump being commander-in-chief of the military doesn’t make him a national chief of police.......

His analysis in a 52-page ruling led him to issue an injunction barring the government from:

deploying, ordering, instructing, training, or using the National Guard currently deployed in California, and any military troops heretofore deployed in California, to execute the laws, including but not limited to engaging in arrests, apprehensions, searches, seizures, security patrols, traffic control, crowd control, riot control, evidence collection, interrogation, or acting as informants, unless and until [government] Defendants satisfy the requirements of a valid constitutional or statutory exception, as defined herein, to the Posse Comitatus Act.


Breyer noted that his injunction only applies in California, not nationally, and that the government doesn’t have to withdraw the 300 guard troops currently stationed in L.A., nor is it barred from using troops consistent with federal law. The judge also said his injunction won’t take effect until noon Friday, Sept. 12, which gives the administration time to appeal.

In related litigation, a federal appeals court panel previously lifted a temporary restraining order that Breyer had issued against the deployment itself.
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