'It infuriates us': Veterans rage at 'abusive' Trump over reports of him stiffing soldiers
Source: Raw Story
August 31, 2025 8:53AM ET
Donald Trump has reportedly gone out of his way to avoid paying national guard troops sent in to Washington, D.C., resulting in outrage from veterans. The reports started earlier in the summer that Trump was utilizing a loophole when deploying the national guard, and avoiding paying those individuals certain additional benefits. In June, Vote In Or Out reported that "Trump deployed National Guard troops on multiple 29-day ordersspecifically choosing durations under 30 days to avoid paying full Basic Allowance for Housing Type 1 (BAH‑1)."
"Under Title 32 regulations, if orders run fewer than 30 days, members receive only the reduced 'BAH‑Type 2,' not full BAH‑1; full benefits begin only on day 31 and only apply from that point forwardnot retroactively," the group wrote. "By repeatedly cycling short ordersending them on day 29 and restarting on day 31the administration saved roughly $2,500 per service member per month, based on differences between BAH‑Type 2 and BAH‑1."
Now, there are rumors circulating from veterans on Reddit and other social media that it's happening again. Early Sunday morning, military analyst WarMonitor reported, "White House put DC National Guard on 29-day orders... 1 day short of 30 needed for full housing and health benefits."
Ex-GOP lawmaker Adam Kinzinger, himself a veteran, also raised the issue on Sunday morning, writing, "So Trump put the national guard on 29 day orders?!" "Why does this matter: They dont pay full housing allowance and no health insurance until 30 days," Kinzinger added. "What an abusive commander in chief. So Trump."
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twodogsbarking
(15,806 posts)UpInArms
(53,404 posts)piss off the guys who are actually trained military members
Deuxcents
(24,040 posts)vapor2
(3,084 posts)GP6971
(36,611 posts)MadameButterfly
(3,547 posts)Vance or Miller et al. have hired some people capable of pouring through all the regulations with orders to cut costs by any means possible (other than the obvious solution of not doing it at all)
barbtries
(30,767 posts)miller, vought, and the like.
krasnov is doing next to none of the thinking going on at the WH these days.
yardwork
(68,056 posts)I'm sure he told his minions not to pay for the troops and they found an excuse.
BoRaGard
(7,556 posts)having a republicon draft dodger as the so-called commander-in-chief is an insult to every American who has served this nation.
Disgusting republicon lack of respect, honor and patriotism.
Stargazer99
(3,301 posts)be shown
vapor2
(3,084 posts)so maybe a wake up call for these vets
Deuxcents
(24,040 posts)PatSeg
(50,950 posts)I think he gets a thrill out of stiffing people even when it isn't his money.
sheshe2
(93,782 posts)He is pocketing the difference and screwing our forces.
sakabatou
(45,300 posts)Actually drove some mom and pop type businesses to bankruptcy.
barbtries
(30,767 posts)need to go to reddit to see the video, it is worth it.
mwmisses4289
(2,222 posts)No words, except how incredibly sad.
MadameButterfly
(3,547 posts)hildegaard28
(780 posts)They expect from a deadbeat? Guess they should have listened to Democrats.
Jim__
(14,926 posts)Go get 'em Trump, show 'em who's boss.
Crowman2009
(3,260 posts)You deprive a Marine of their weekend of booze, strip clubs, and maybe even gay bars; then you'll have a pissed off Marine. Especially if you stiff them on their pay.
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DFW
(58,932 posts)Where have we heard that before?
Oh, yeah, NOW I remember. Donald Trump used to do that all the time. Whats he up to these days, anyway?
These patriots expected something different? Somebody remind us all of the definition of insanity again
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Orrex
(66,035 posts)Waiting.
Waiting.
Waiting.
paleotn
(20,892 posts)other than wandering around, seeing the sights. Now getting stiffed on housing and healthcare allowance for the privilege. A ginormous waste of everyone's time and money. And time away from their families and day jobs.
3auld6phart
(1,627 posts)Damn I wuld be totally pised alo. Christ some. S
TThat lump of steaming snail shit
Demobrat
(10,210 posts)If he can screw you he will. Its who and what he is.
JoseBalow
(8,405 posts)because he's an asshole.
chowder66
(11,269 posts)work for his whole term for $50k?
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,852 posts)
underpants
(193,003 posts)If Im correct this is a Hey guys, youve got a day off type thing. The NCO or officer saying so might now be aware of the situation.
GB_RN
(3,439 posts)Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent? The guy who made a career of stiffing people? And stiffing people he called losers?!?! Noooo! Let me find me shocked face oh, wait.🙄
AnnaLee
(1,305 posts)I guess the critters are in favor of this tax break for the rich example. Make it up, one penny at a time off the lives of soldiers.
watertiger
(8 posts)LilElf70
(1,092 posts)is an understatement. FAFO
underpants
(193,003 posts)I read the story as him waiting a day and then reissuing on day 31
If Im correct this is a Hey guys, youve got a day off type thing. The NCO or officer saying so might now be aware of the situation.
Traildogbob
(11,822 posts)But paying Pardoned convicted prisoner treasonous thugs $80,000+ with $50,000 signing and bonuses per capture.
With a budget most other countries militaries would love to have, From OUR and those Military peoples Taxes. Trump and most of his cabinet do not pay taxes.
Plus he fired every highest ranking officer of each branch. Then had soldiers on their knees laying red carpet for the worlds worst murdering dictator, a known enemy of our nation.
While fucking the VA more every day. The draft dodging coward. How the fuck can any active or vet accept this shit? I for one despise this shit. Instead of thanking me for service tell me you will never vote for a Republican again, and you hate this piece of shit CIC, and Miller, and Hogsbreath.
hatrack
(63,566 posts)Yeah, why pay Guard soldiers when you can fuck them, like every other organization or business you've ever worked with, you pustulent FUCK?
ReRe
(11,956 posts)
I probably hate them more.
Paladin
(31,609 posts)usonian
(20,543 posts)Let me count the years.
Martin68
(26,468 posts)synni
(547 posts)That's what they get for doing his evil bidding. Those leopards are getting so fat, I'm sure they've all got diabetes by now.
patphil
(8,265 posts)As usual, Trump shows his true colors when it comes to his ability to disrespect the military.
MadameButterfly
(3,547 posts)when he needs the military to have his way. I'm guessing this means he is writing off the National Guard and expecting ICE to defend him when the fighting starts?
I do hope he will manage to screw the army, the navy, and ICE too. That would be our salvation. Unlikely, but nothing has been likely so far, and he might be that stupid.
patphil
(8,265 posts)Add to that his steady mental decline and long history of disdain for the military, and this becomes quite the normal thing for him. Besides, he sees them as just pawns in his power game.
Why should he spend "his" money on them.
Note: I'm sure he feels that all the government's money is his money.
NBachers
(18,893 posts)travelingthrulife
(3,268 posts)they blow up the budget, increase the debt by billions, and everyone marvels at their fiscal discipline.
oasis
(52,892 posts)
BoRaGard
(7,556 posts)
Bayard
(26,988 posts)I guess they get court martialed if they walk off the job.
cstanleytech
(27,942 posts)The ones that didn't support Trump in any way are the only ones I feel sympathy for.
BoRaGard
(7,556 posts)repubes are fine with this.. So unpatriotic.
Vthestate
(36 posts)We have been worn down and the cruel and greedy has become common place. The outrage coupled with the feeling
of no recourse has built a sense of complacency .....what would a Veterans (plus national guard) uprising look like?
mucifer
(25,323 posts)mjvpi
(1,777 posts)quakerboy
(14,544 posts)Just like pretty much every invading army through history.
Montauk6
(9,229 posts)DiamondShark
(1,162 posts)First make it retroactive. Second change the wording to be any 15 days worked in a 30 day period, any 10 days worked in a 30 day period can be done as well.
EndlessWire
(8,103 posts)I'd publicize this until all members of the military branches know of this cheating of benefits. The Orange Pedophile can't maintain his dictatorship without the military. He totally disrespects the military. But, he'll need them to maintain his rule. He has weakened his control of them.
You don't do this if you want something from someone. You don't say, "Work harder for me, and I'll give you less." Right now, they are recruiting ICE to be his personal army, and offering huge sums of money to them. I doubt they'll ever see those rewards, but clearly, they are placed above our standing National Guard.
So, the best thing is to tell all the military what he has done. The rank and file should know this.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,852 posts)I was part of the Clinton Victory Counsel program and was on the team that reviewed 6,000+ trump lawsuits. A few of the lawsuits that I reviewed were trump stiffing contractors. trump is up to his old tricks
Back when Donald was a failure in real estate, he was famous for not paying his contractors. He would come up with fictional fault in their work as an excuse not to pay them. Now, this unscrupulous cretin is short-changing the National Guard.
— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2025-09-01T19:40:29.226Z
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The reports started earlier in the summer that Trump was utilizing a loophole when deploying the national guard, and avoiding paying those individuals certain additional benefits. In June, Vote In Or Out reported that "Trump deployed National Guard troops on multiple 29-day ordersspecifically choosing durations under 30 days to avoid paying full Basic Allowance for Housing Type 1 (BAH‑1)."
"Under Title 32 regulations, if orders run fewer than 30 days, members receive only the reduced 'BAH‑Type 2,' not full BAH‑1; full benefits begin only on day 31 and only apply from that point forwardnot retroactively," the group wrote. "By repeatedly cycling short ordersending them on day 29 and restarting on day 31the administration saved roughly $2,500 per service member per month, based on differences between BAH‑Type 2 and BAH‑1.".....
"Why does this matter: They dont pay full housing allowance and no health insurance until 30 days," Kinzinger added. "What an abusive commander in chief. So Trump."
A self-identified veteran replied to Kinzinger, writing, "Im an ex-Military guy too, and we all know this is the kind of BS thing that infuriates us."
"We swear an oath to the Constitution, not a man - and when a mere man abuses his power this way, we have every right to refuse an order we think is illegal," wrote the user, @EpicJourneyMan1. They added, "Before he pisses us off!"
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