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BumRushDaShow

(160,177 posts)
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:45 PM Aug 29

New Trump rule to ban VA abortions for veterans even in cases of rape and incest

Source: The Guardian

Fri 29 Aug 2025 10.51 EDT
First published on Fri 29 Aug 2025 10.30 EDT


Doctors at the US Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) would be barred from performing abortions, even in cases of rape and incest, under new rules proposed by the Trump administration.

The draft regulations, which also forbid providers from counseling female veterans about terminating a pregnancy, have generated nearly 20,000 comments in the federal register from conservative activists, abortion rights supporters and female veterans, many of them survivors of sexual assault.

“I am a veteran, a mother, and my abortion saved my life,” wrote Mary Dodson-Otten, a 41-year-old nurse and air force veteran who lives outside Atlanta, Georgia.

Dodson-Otten told the Guardian she ended a pregnancy in her 20s after she got pregnant by an abusive boyfriend who was a fellow service member. Without the abortion, she said, “I don’t think I would have survived, whether it would have been him hurting me or me hurting me.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/29/trump-veterans-affairs-abortion-ban

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littlemissmartypants

(29,763 posts)
3. Every day is opposite day with psychopaths. To love is to hurt for the psychopath.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 09:06 PM
Aug 29

Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior

CaliforniaPeggy

(155,125 posts)
4. Thanks so much for this utterly horrifying list, my dear littlemissmartypants.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 09:10 PM
Aug 29

It sure explains a lot.

Puppyjive

(834 posts)
6. There might be better options than the VA
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 10:23 PM
Aug 29

Honestly, didn't know the VA offered abortion services. I am a female veteran and I also worked for the VA. Never heard of abortion services. The service probably came with strings attached. Women's health is still evolving at the VA.

Hekate

(99,443 posts)
7. "Still evolving" ? I think it's that close to being over. Hegseth & Trump don't want women in the military.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 11:21 PM
Aug 29

Substantive progress was made under Democratic presidents. But you’re a DUer, you know what’s been going on with women’s rights in the SCOTUS and with Trump and every person he’s brought in. Also, you know what’s being done to our civilian medical delivery system.

I’m sorry. I don’t usually follow the military as such, but I do follow women’s rights, and that includes those in the military.

Edited to add: Trump and Hegseth are both abusive and rapists.

Hekate

(99,443 posts)
9. That is absolutely how this whole Trump MAGAGOP era feels
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 12:15 AM
Aug 30

There have been times since Hillary”lost” that I have been beside myself with rage or grief or disbelief or all of them at once. I’m old — there were any number of things I thought were settled law, done and dusted, progress made toward the US becoming a mature society.

I don’t need to go down the whole list, but take for instance the Imperial Presidency. Surely we settled that with Dick Nixon, right? Right? Apparently not.

Maybe this is the emoji I need tonight….

Puppyjive

(834 posts)
11. I fought my last employer for birth control and pregnancy discrimination
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 02:30 AM
Aug 30

Lost on the birth control coverage but won on the pregnancy discrimination. My employer cancelled my employee health insurance when I got pregnant. They would not give me light duty, so eventually my water broke 2 months early. Son was premature. Where was the VA thru all of this? No where to be found. I have a lot of anger about what is happening to women's rights. I feel like all the progress I made has been erased, including my service as a female combat veteran.

CountAllVotes

(21,949 posts)
10. working for the U.S. Army in 1979 ...
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 12:36 AM
Aug 30

At that time if an enlisted woman became pregnant and wasn't married, she was told to "Take care of it". She had 24-hrs. to deal with it and be back on duty.

You've come a long way baby NOT!



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