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BumRushDaShow

(160,177 posts)
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:42 PM Aug 29

Most Trump tariffs ruled illegal in huge blow to White House trade policy

Last edited Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CNBC

Published Fri, Aug 29 2025 5:40 PM EDT Updated 16 Min Ago


A federal appeals court ruled Friday that most of President Donald Trump’s global tariffs are illegal, striking a massive blow to the core of his aggressive trade policy. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in a 7-4 ruling held that the law Trump invoked when he granted his most expansive tariffs does not actually grant him the power to impose those levies.

The appellate court paused its ruling from taking effect until Oct. 14, in order to give the Trump administration time to ask the Supreme Court to reverse the decision. Trump later Friday attacked the appeals court as “Highly Partisan” and asserted that the Supreme Court will rule in his favor.

“If these Tariffs ever went away, it would be a total disaster for the Country,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post. “If allowed to stand, this Decision would literally destroy the United States of America.” “The President’s tariffs remain in effect, and we look forward to ultimate victory on this matter,” White House spokesman Kush Desai said in a separate statement.

Friday’s ruling is the second straight loss for Trump in the make-or-break case.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/29/trump-trade-tariffs-appeals-court-ieepa.html



Link to RULING (PDF) - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cafc.23105/gov.uscourts.cafc.23105.159.0_1.pdf


REFERENCES

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143467885
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143503335


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Most Trump tariffs ruled illegal in blow to White House trade policy

Published Fri, Aug 29 2025 5:40 PM EDT Updated 3 Min Ago


A federal appeals court ruled Friday that most of President Donald Trump's global tariffs are illegal, striking a massive blow to the core of his aggressive trade policy. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in a 7-4 ruling held that the law Trump invoked when he granted his most expansive tariffs does not actually grant him the power to impose those levies.

Trump is all but certain to appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court. The appellate court paused its ruling from taking effect until Oct. 14, in order to give the Trump administration time to ask the Supreme Court to take up the case. The White House did not immediately respond to CNBC's request for comment on Friday's ruling, which is the second straight loss for Trump in the make-or-break case.

The Trump administration has argued that the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, or IEEPA, empowers the president to effectively impose country-specific tariffs at any level if he deems them necessary to address a national emergency.

The U.S. Court of International Trade in late May rejected that stance and struck down Trump's IEEPA-based tariffs, including his worldwide "reciprocal" tariffs unveiled in early April. But the Federal Circuit quickly paused that ruling while Trump's appeal played out.


Published Fri, Aug 29 2025 5:40 PM EDT Updated 1 Min Ago


A federal appeals court ruled Friday that most of President Donald Trump's global tariffs are illegal, striking a massive blow to the core of his aggressive trade policy. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit ruled that the law Trump invoked when he granted his most expansive tariffs does not actually grant him the power to impose those levies.

Trump is all but certain to appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court. The appellate court paused its ruling from taking effect until Oct. 14, in order to give the Trump administration time to ask the Supreme Court to take up the case.

The White House did not immediately respond to CNBC's request for comment on the ruling.

The Trump administration has argued that the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, or IEEPA, empowers the president to effectively impose country-specific tariffs at any level if he deems them necessary to address a national emergency.


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Published Fri, Aug 29 2025 5:40 PM EDT Updated 2 Min Ago


A federal appeals court ruled Friday that most of President Donald Trump's global tariffs are illegal, striking a massive blow to the core of his aggressive trade policy.

A panel of three judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit ruled that the law Trump invoked when he granted his most expansive tariffs does not actually grant him the power to impose those levies.

Trump is all but certain to appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court. The appellate court paused its ruling from taking effect until Oct. 14, in order to give the Trump administration time to ask the Supreme Court to take up the case.

The White House did not immediately respond to CNBC's request for comment on the ruling.


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Published Fri, Aug 29 2025 5:40 PM EDT Updated 2 Min Ago


A federal appeals court ruled Friday that most of President Donald Trump's global tariffs are illegal, striking a massive blow to the core of his aggressive trade policy.


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Most Trump tariffs ruled illegal in huge blow to White House trade policy (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 29 OP
and when he goes to the Supreme Court, what will they do? I sure would count on them. So far they have given lostincalifornia Aug 29 #1
Of course they'll rule in his favor. WestMichRad Aug 29 #19
If trump can't destroy the economy Turbineguy Aug 29 #2
Trump's Global Tariffs Found Illegal by US Appeals Court LetMyPeopleVote Aug 29 #3
I hope Tangerine looses and the tariffs all get refunded IbogaProject Aug 29 #14
DING DING DING!!!! That's it and why those asshats have always wanted Fat Hitler Bengus81 Aug 29 #15
* loses Ponietz Aug 29 #22
Tariff Payment Paper Trail Is Critical for Building Refund Case LetMyPeopleVote Aug 29 #38
What if that money has already been spent? Bayard Aug 29 #44
Finally. RussBLib Aug 29 #4
I wouldn't count on it, and they are allowing the tariffs to remain in place in the meantime. lostincalifornia Aug 29 #6
Exactly. They ruled it is illegal but will also allow it to continue. Midnight Writer Aug 29 #11
How does that even make any sense? nt intrepidity Aug 29 #47
I wish I had a dollar for every time I have asked myself that same question. nt Midnight Writer Aug 29 #48
I wouldn't get too excited about this. Even though the appellate court upheld the earlier ruling by the lostincalifornia Aug 29 #5
It still has "psychological" headline appeal BumRushDaShow Aug 29 #7
So does giving him a month and a half to make another appeal. Seriously? They could file another appeal in a week. ancianita Aug 29 #20
There is (realistically) BumRushDaShow Aug 29 #25
"giving the "back office" time to plan contingencies" -- so this is due process?? An appeal on the current facts, law, ancianita Aug 29 #27
I expect that someone could easily run to "Daddy Roberts" (as he has threatened to do this evening) BumRushDaShow Aug 29 #31
Probably... another "stay" on the Constitution. ancianita Aug 29 #41
That's the "Unitary Executive" BumRushDaShow Aug 29 #42
Amen. ancianita Aug 29 #43
The ruling, however, doesn't take effect immediately. The court withheld the mandate for its decision until *Oct. 14* LetMyPeopleVote Aug 29 #8
he should be ordered to repay any tariffs collected personally moonshinegnomie Aug 29 #9
Trump's tariff push overstepped presidential powers, appeals court says LetMyPeopleVote Aug 29 #10
I need to edit one sentence in this article; C Moon Aug 29 #12
Know known as the Extreme Court............. Bengus81 Aug 29 #16
Who are we kidding? Why act like this is significant? SidneyR Aug 29 #13
It's important to see if those Republicans on the US EC will totally,100% ignore the Constitution Bengus81 Aug 29 #18
You know it's a matter of time he demands those judges be removed! kimbutgar Aug 29 #17
Very well could be wrong but I believe this will tie in with any SCOTUS rulings on the FED and I believe SCOTUS will Cheezoholic Aug 29 #21
There needs to be MASSIVE demonstrations on Oct.13th. Gary 50 Aug 29 #23
When is the next No Kings protest? OrlandoDem2 Aug 29 #36
It was a 7-4 decision. Wiz Imp Aug 29 #24
Honest, fair judges would'a required Anal Fistula to raise the tariffs even higher.2 3Hotdogs Aug 29 #26
"I have no idea why Obama ever appointed those 2." BumRushDaShow Aug 29 #28
Roberts ruled Obamacare was really the power to tax bucolic_frolic Aug 29 #29
Could someone explain to me why the SEVEN votes didn't bluestarone Aug 29 #30
They sound like they are trying to work around the SCOTUS BumRushDaShow Aug 29 #32
Tee hee. twodogsbarking Aug 29 #33
This is some good news. republianmushroom Aug 29 #34
Negating the tariffs will explode the deficit and debt. OrlandoDem2 Aug 29 #35
Courts, Courts, we don't need no stinking courts. I know that was said on 1600 Penn Ave LiberalArkie Aug 29 #37
I like that you put all the news clips together to show the whole story. Dixiegrrrl Aug 29 #39
Most welcome! BumRushDaShow Aug 29 #40
I think this is bad news Playingmantis Aug 29 #45
You do realize that this will effect all of us don't you? Gimpyknee Aug 30 #54
Yes I do Playingmantis Aug 30 #57
The judicial system (courts) work slowly and methodically, (as they should), but they carry a lot of weight. Trump Martin68 Aug 29 #46
K&R red dog 1 Aug 29 #49
The ONLY 'national emergency' is TRUMP in the White House!!!!! Jack Valentino Aug 30 #50
The Star Chamber will decide! BidenRocks Aug 30 #51
Shadow docket approval Old Crank Aug 30 #52
For fear of retaliation from "You Know Who" FakeNoose Aug 30 #56
If Biden had imposed these tariffs, Rhiagel Aug 30 #53
Everything Krasnov (r-felon/golfcheat) touches, dies BoRaGard Aug 30 #55
He will Rebl2 Aug 30 #58

lostincalifornia

(4,458 posts)
1. and when he goes to the Supreme Court, what will they do? I sure would count on them. So far they have given
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:44 PM
Aug 29

him everything he has wanted in his quest to make unitary executive theory the law of the land.

Turbineguy

(39,345 posts)
2. If trump can't destroy the economy
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:55 PM
Aug 29

he'll be pissed.

Well, at least he still has Brain Worm Bobby to do an extinction event.

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,809 posts)
3. Trump's Global Tariffs Found Illegal by US Appeals Court
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 05:58 PM
Aug 29

Yeah for Neal Katyal



https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/trumps-global-tariffs-found-illegal-by-us-appeals-court

Most of President Donald Trump’s global tariffs were ruled illegal by a federal appeals court that found he exceeded his authority in imposing them, but the judges let the levies stay in place while sending the case back to a lower court for further proceedings.

The US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit on Friday upheld an earlier ruling by the Court of International Trade that Trump wrongfully invoked an emergency law to issue the tariffs. But the appellate judges sent the case back to the lower court to determine if it applied to everyone affected by tariffs or just the parties involved in the case.

Friday’s ruling extends the suspense over whether Trump’s tariffs will ultimately stand. The case had been expected to next go to the Supreme Court for a final decision.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.

IbogaProject

(4,976 posts)
14. I hope Tangerine looses and the tariffs all get refunded
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:49 PM
Aug 29

That way the GOP can loose face or have to pass the tariffs and all take the blame going forward.

Bengus81

(9,388 posts)
15. DING DING DING!!!! That's it and why those asshats have always wanted Fat Hitler
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:54 PM
Aug 29

to do the tariffs himself keeping them off the hook for passing a load TAXES on people. They do NOT want to go home to their Republican voters and have to explain those taxes.

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,809 posts)
38. Tariff Payment Paper Trail Is Critical for Building Refund Case
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:42 PM
Aug 29

trump and company promised the courts that they would refund any tariffs if they lose as a condition of the appeal of the first judgment. Lawyers are advising people and businesses on what information may be needed to get a refund of tariffs



https://news.bloomberglaw.com/in-house-counsel/tariff-payment-paper-trail-is-critical-for-building-refund-case

Trade lawyers are telling clients to keep thorough records of the tariffs they’re paying—starting immediately if they haven’t already—ahead of a court decision that could result in billions in refunds pouring back to companies......

Whether companies get a refund, how much gets refunded, and the process for getting money back to companies all hinge on the outcome of the litigation.

“A lot is riding on this case, both for the future as well as for the tariffs that have been collected already,” said Ginger Faulk, a partner at Eversheds Sutherland who leads the firm’s US and global sanctions practices.....

If the court declares the tariffs were entirely illegal, it’s almost certain that levies already paid would be eligible for a refund, said Michael Lowell, chair of Reed Smith’s global regulatory enforcement group.

The decision could also be more nuanced than a simple yes or no, Gamalski said. For example, the court could point to particular stretches of time when the legal status of the tariffs changed. It could rule that the national emergency justification for using IEEPA to impose tariffs was valid for some countries, but not others.

Any of those outcomes could require companies to more finely parse out what they paid and when, she added.

Meanwhile, lawyers said, it’s also not clear if refund payments would be issued automatically, or if companies would need to calculate what they’re owed and file for their refunds themselves.

“You should have all of your data ready because you might be going for everything; you might be having to isolate some of that,” Gamalski said. “And if you are starting at square zero of pulling everything together, it’s going to be just that much harder.

Collecting the refund of the tariffs will be interesting and fun to watch

Bayard

(26,974 posts)
44. What if that money has already been spent?
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 09:22 PM
Aug 29

On things like ICE, and new concentration camps. That means WE would have to pay for refunds. More national debt. Yay.

RussBLib

(10,156 posts)
4. Finally.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:06 PM
Aug 29

I was wondering when the hell this ruling would come down. But to delay it till Oct 14 gives Trump too much time to fuck up more shit.

This is crucial. The SCOTUS better do the right thing, e.g. shut him down.

https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1

lostincalifornia

(4,458 posts)
5. I wouldn't get too excited about this. Even though the appellate court upheld the earlier ruling by the
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:12 PM
Aug 29

Court of International Trade that trump had wrongfully invoked an emergency law to issue the levies, the appellate judges sent the case back to the lower court to determine if it applied to everyone affected by the tariffs, or just the parties involved in the case.

In addition, the tariffs were allowed to remain in place as the litigation proceeds, insuring that this will end up before the supreme court, which I sure wouldn't count on for anything that doesn't give trump unitary executive privilege.

BumRushDaShow

(160,177 posts)
7. It still has "psychological" headline appeal
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:17 PM
Aug 29

in an era when "wins" by those fighting back are intentionally drowned out by the media in favor of the "wins" by 45 that destroy people's lives.

ancianita

(41,832 posts)
20. So does giving him a month and a half to make another appeal. Seriously? They could file another appeal in a week.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:22 PM
Aug 29

I don't get this. Americans have already endured years of this man's using and abusing due process as a weapon against justice that ends up doing no good for the country.

BumRushDaShow

(160,177 posts)
25. There is (realistically)
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:43 PM
Aug 29

a huge set of databases that would need to be revised (most, if not all contracted out via task order, with a change control process) that importers/brokers use for their product manifests and to calculate the tariffs.

And with so many types and levels of tariffs on literally hundreds if not thousands of products for dozens and dozens of countries, it would be complicated to unwind the tariffs covered in this order (it's apparently not "all", but "most" ), should the SCOTUS actually agree with the "pause".

But for the appeal time, we are talking about 45's justifying the unprecedented use of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act as a pretext for imposing the tariffs where there is really no "economic emergency" (and there were already tariffed goods/services before the invocation of that as it is), and instead to use it as a cudgel as "punishment" to impose his will.

So I think it is for both, including giving the "back office" time to plan contingencies - and especially since TACO imposes, revises, and pulls tariffs continually.

ancianita

(41,832 posts)
27. "giving the "back office" time to plan contingencies" -- so this is due process?? An appeal on the current facts, law,
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:54 PM
Aug 29

and merits should be all the due process that's necessary, not some alleged judicial time lapse to allow for a whole new set of evidence and arguments. Thanks for the explanation, but all that should have no bearing on the appeal time given. Seems to me that ship sailed after the first ruling.

BumRushDaShow

(160,177 posts)
31. I expect that someone could easily run to "Daddy Roberts" (as he has threatened to do this evening)
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:08 PM
Aug 29

to get an emergency TRO on that ruling, to be in effect by tomorrow, so the "delayed effect until October" might help delay the circumstance for an instant "stay" from the SCOTUS (with the same effect).

ancianita

(41,832 posts)
41. Probably... another "stay" on the Constitution.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:47 PM
Aug 29

He's got the doj in one pocket, the scotus in another. Like a mafia network thinly disguised as government.

BumRushDaShow

(160,177 posts)
42. That's the "Unitary Executive"
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:50 PM
Aug 29

Basically an Executive Branch at the top of a "hierarchical pyramid" that doesn't Constitutionally exist.

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,809 posts)
8. The ruling, however, doesn't take effect immediately. The court withheld the mandate for its decision until *Oct. 14*
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:21 PM
Aug 29

This case is headed to SCOTUS



LetMyPeopleVote

(169,809 posts)
10. Trump's tariff push overstepped presidential powers, appeals court says
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:33 PM
Aug 29

A panel of 11 judges ruled 7-to-4 that the president’s tariffs were illegal but said they could stay in place as the case proceeds.



https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/trump-tariffs-lawsuit-appeals-court-ruling-what-to-know-rcna223915

A federal appeals court said Friday that President Donald Trump had misused his authority in imposing an array of tariffs under an emergency-powers statute, ruling that only Congress has the power to apply such sweeping measures.

However, the judges said the tariffs can stay in place as the case proceeds.

“The core Congressional power to impose taxes such as tariffs is vested exclusively in the legislative branch by the Constitution,” a ruling signed by seven judges with the federal circuit court of appeals said.

“Tariffs are a core Congressional power,” it said.......

The Court of International Trade initially blocked the tariffs in late May. It found that the import duties lacked “any identifiable limits” and that the law Trump cited in many of his executive orders did not “delegate an unbounded tariff authority to the President.” It also said the tariffs did not meet the test of an “unusual and extraordinary” risk to the country.

All of Trump’s tariffs on major trading partners, such as Canada, Mexico, China, the European Union, Japan, India, Brazil and a handful of other countries, have been deployed using the law.

C Moon

(13,178 posts)
12. I need to edit one sentence in this article;
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:40 PM
Aug 29

“Trump is all but certain to appeal the ruling to HIS Supreme Court.”

SidneyR

(188 posts)
13. Who are we kidding? Why act like this is significant?
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 06:42 PM
Aug 29

We know through experience that another court will over-ride this and allow it all to go forward. That's how it always goes.

Bengus81

(9,388 posts)
18. It's important to see if those Republicans on the US EC will totally,100% ignore the Constitution
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:02 PM
Aug 29

Article I, Section 8 showing us once again that LYING under oath when sworn in is totally meaningless.

kimbutgar

(26,033 posts)
17. You know it's a matter of time he demands those judges be removed!
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:00 PM
Aug 29

In his maniac mind he thinks he is a dictator that’s can’t be challenged.

He is the god almighty who should not be chanllenged!

Cheezoholic

(3,293 posts)
21. Very well could be wrong but I believe this will tie in with any SCOTUS rulings on the FED and I believe SCOTUS will
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:23 PM
Aug 29

side with history. Even this radical SCOTUS cannot deny the historical imperative of an Independent Central Bank that goes all the way back to Ally Toes favorite picking grounds, the 16th and 17th centuries with the Bank of England. Tariff policies have a similar history as the establishment of a Central Bank, it's largely been kept out of the hands of the King.

Yeah, I'm grasping but a drowning man will grab onto anything that floats

Gary 50

(469 posts)
23. There needs to be MASSIVE demonstrations on Oct.13th.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:30 PM
Aug 29

Put the supreme assholes on notice that we will not except any more law breaking by the disgusting pig in the white house and his co-conspirators on the court. We need to make the government afraid of the people instead of the people afraid of the government.

Wiz Imp

(7,142 posts)
24. It was a 7-4 decision.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:34 PM
Aug 29

The 7 voting in the majority included 3 Obama appointees, 2 Biden Appointees, 1 from Clinton & 1 from H.W. Bush
The 4 in the minority included 2 W. Bush appointees and 2 Obama appointees.

I have no idea why Obama ever appointed those 2. The one guy clerked for Sandra Day O'Connor & Robert Bork. Terrible appointment.

BumRushDaShow

(160,177 posts)
28. "I have no idea why Obama ever appointed those 2."
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 07:59 PM
Aug 29

Remember during much of the time after digging the country out of a ditch, the GOP was blocking most of his nominees (for anything but especially judges), which is what forced Reid to invoke the "nuclear option" to not need 60 votes for a nominee. So I expect some of the more "conservative" nominees may have been from states where the Senators would have blue slipped them if they weren't "acceptable". I.e., it was for expediency.

bucolic_frolic

(52,405 posts)
29. Roberts ruled Obamacare was really the power to tax
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:03 PM
Aug 29

This will be no different. So don't get your hopes up.

bluestarone

(20,287 posts)
30. Could someone explain to me why the SEVEN votes didn't
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:05 PM
Aug 29

Stop this shit, like RIGHT FUCKING NOW? Why allow this bullshit until October? It just does not make sense.

BumRushDaShow

(160,177 posts)
32. They sound like they are trying to work around the SCOTUS
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:13 PM
Aug 29

who (Roberts is over that Circuit) could instantly impose an "administrative stay", so the tariffs would remain "as is" anyway, for whatever timeframe he sets to hear more arguments.

OrlandoDem2

(3,097 posts)
35. Negating the tariffs will explode the deficit and debt.
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:29 PM
Aug 29

They should be scrapped but due to the steep tax cuts for the rich in the Trump tax cut bill, the deficit and debt will skyrocket.

What they’ll do to interest rates and inflation is beyond me but this could sink our economy. He already broke it but now we will be bankrupt.

Y’all better start saving and stop spending because you’re gonna need some cash when all this is done.

BumRushDaShow

(160,177 posts)
40. Most welcome!
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 08:45 PM
Aug 29


Had to dig for that because there are about 5 or 6 lawsuits dealing with "tariffs" and I had to find out which one this referred to!

Playingmantis

(458 posts)
45. I think this is bad news
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 09:30 PM
Aug 29

There is only one sure way of ridding the nation of the curse of Trump and Thugs and that is with a serious recession and inflation both of which would be the result of these tariff.

Coolidge and Hoover gave us Roosevelt. The MAGAs love this low life??!!!....then let the snakes he has created take their tole. I want them to reap what they have sown..

If I am wrong please tell me..



Playingmantis

(458 posts)
57. Yes I do
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 10:03 AM
Aug 30

People have given their lives to protect democracy...a bit of financial hardship is the least they can do..and PS i am retired middle class and I am willing to sacrifice to rid the nation of Herr Trumpelstilskin..

Martin68

(26,460 posts)
46. The judicial system (courts) work slowly and methodically, (as they should), but they carry a lot of weight. Trump
Fri Aug 29, 2025, 09:45 PM
Aug 29

defies them at his own peril.

Jack Valentino

(3,261 posts)
50. The ONLY 'national emergency' is TRUMP in the White House!!!!!
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 12:08 AM
Aug 30

All his 'national emergencies' are fictional, except for THAT one....

FakeNoose

(38,640 posts)
56. For fear of retaliation from "You Know Who"
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 08:49 AM
Aug 30

It takes a lot of courage to be a federal judge these days. Most of the judges want to rule against Chump, not for political reasons, but because they can see how he's fucking up our government. Even the conservatives are against that, on principle.

Congress has laid down and let him have what he wants, so our only hope is for the federal judges to hold the line. Chump has actually threatened some judges, by implication and by naming them in his social media tweets. It's a bizarre world that he's allowed to do this and get away with it.

Rhiagel

(1,806 posts)
53. If Biden had imposed these tariffs,
Sat Aug 30, 2025, 06:50 AM
Aug 30

SCOTUS would strike it down. Since their boy levied the tariffs, it will be okay. Decision reversed. Simple as that.

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