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BumRushDaShow

(160,136 posts)
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:20 PM Aug 27

E-Verify was supposed to make it easy for companies to follow immigration law. Now even the feds say it can't be trusted

Source: CNN US

PUBLISHED Aug 27, 2025, 7:18 AM ET


When the police department of a small Maine resort town was told that one of its reserve officers was working in the US illegally, the Department of Homeland Security made sure the case was splashed on front pages. “The fact that a police department would hire an illegal alien and unlawfully issue him a firearm while on duty would be comical if it weren’t so tragic,” an Immigration and Customs Enforcement official said in a statement.

ICE accused the department of “knowingly breaking the very law they are charged with enforcing,” but the city said the flaw was with the federal verification program that it used to confirm that Jon Luke Evans – who has since agreed to voluntarily leave the country after barely a month on the job – was permitted to work. “We will continue to rely on the I-9 Employment Eligibility Verification form and the E-Verify database to confirm employment eligibility,” Old Orchard Beach Police Chief Elise Chard said at the time. But the Trump administration said a green light from E-Verify was not enough.

“The Old Orchard Beach Police Department’s reckless reliance on E-Verify to justify arming an illegal alien, Jon Luke Evans violates federal law, and does not absolve them of their failure to conduct basic background checks to verify legal status,” said Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin.

The statement from the federal government agency responsible for E-Verify saying it is “reckless” to rely on its own system brought new attention to the program’s weaknesses, even as the Trump administration makes removing undocumented workers from the country one of the top priorities in its aggressive, ongoing immigration crackdown.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/27/us/e-verify-immigration-law



Apparently they are a purplish to blue area that attracts many Canadians - Canadian prime minister suggests Old Orchard Beach could feel sting of tariff 'trade war' with U.S.

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E-Verify was supposed to make it easy for companies to follow immigration law. Now even the feds say it can't be trusted (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 27 OP
trump is an idiot radical noodle Aug 27 #1
E-verify became just cover for employers to not have to worry ToxMarz Aug 27 #2
I am sick of this meme- it is bizarre Tumbulu Aug 27 #3
Because the employer is paying the worker and the taxes legally required ToxMarz Aug 27 #4
It is misinformation repeated relentlessly. Farm labor is highly skilled Tumbulu Aug 28 #6
"You should refuse to trust any system that relies on our work." - E-verify Xipe Totec Aug 27 #5

radical noodle

(10,401 posts)
1. trump is an idiot
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:13 PM
Aug 27

E-verify is really the only way for a person to check these things. If e-verify thinks their documentation is correct, what other way does an employer have to check them?

ToxMarz

(2,558 posts)
2. E-verify became just cover for employers to not have to worry
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 05:24 PM
Aug 27

about violating the law. But business leaders (and the economy) still needed cheap undocumented workers, so it was never made to be super effective. Money talks, and that would have hit bottom lines.

Tumbulu

(6,585 posts)
3. I am sick of this meme- it is bizarre
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 05:39 PM
Aug 27

First of all, anyone paying with a W-2, which the e-verify system is for- is paying at least minimum wage. And yes, minimum wage is too low. But workers where I am, doing actual skilled farm work, are paid well over minimum wage. Most are in the $20-$35/hr range. Documented or not- and how would an employer know if they put the number into the system and E-Verify says their number is good?

Employers are paying the 7.5% into social security (into an account that will never pay out to the recipient) in addition to what the 7.5% collected from the worker's paycheck.

So no, it is not a way to give cover to people paying under the table or less than minimum wage.

My theory is that the Treasury utterly depends upon all this money coming in that will never be paid out. They do not want it fixed.

ToxMarz

(2,558 posts)
4. Because the employer is paying the worker and the taxes legally required
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 05:59 PM
Aug 27

and the appropriate SS/Medicare deposits, that doesn't mean he's not getting better quality candidates at CHEAPER cost than he can otherwise find. Some of these jobs no one else will even do in this country. That's not a MEME even if you feel otherwise. Not how memes work.

Tumbulu

(6,585 posts)
6. It is misinformation repeated relentlessly. Farm labor is highly skilled
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 02:34 PM
Aug 28

and not easily taught; it takes years to get those skills. And physical stamina. Like every other kind of labor.

I believe that all laborers are underpaid. It is not the undocumented part that makes them underpaid, it is the fact that all physical labor seems to be underpaid in general in this country. The fact that there are so many undocumented laborers has more to do with the reality that getting a green card for labor is utterly messed up. They have all these special visas for "educated" people, as though physical labor is not skilled or requiring of technical chops. And the politicians have every reason to keep it that way, as all these billions of dollars are paid into social security by people who will not be able to draw from it.

Maybe 70% of the ag labor force around where I am is documented; it is law in CA that the employer provides health insurance and pay overtime. This is not the case in most of the other states. Documentation has nothing to do with these obligations.


Xipe Totec

(44,394 posts)
5. "You should refuse to trust any system that relies on our work." - E-verify
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 07:30 PM
Aug 27

Paraphrase, actually. The original is:

"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member." Groucho Marx.

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