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orangecrush

(26,717 posts)
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:18 AM Aug 27

Police say gunman is 'contained' after mass shooting at south Minneapolis church

Last edited Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: KARE NWES

MINNEAPOLIS — The Minneapolis Police Department confirmed an active shooter allegedly opened fire at a church on the city's south side Wednesday morning.

Authorities said the shooter has since been "contained" and there's no lingering threat to the public.

An army of police and paramedics arrived at Annunciation Church, 509 W. 54th Street around 8:30 a.m., where Richfield police reported a man dressed in black and armed with a rifle was spotted on the scene. Police confirm there are approximately 20 victims, but did not share details of their status.

Multiple sources told KARE 11's Lou Raguse that the shooter is dead, and that bomb squads are working to disarm multiple improvised explosive devices (IEDs). Families of children at Annunciation School are urged to go to a reunification zone at 525 W. 54th St.

Read more: https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/active-shooter-situation-unfolding-at-south-minneapolis-church/89-dd54a6fb-0436-48b1-898b-9cbab1ca5dc3




I feel sick.


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Police say gunman is 'contained' after mass shooting at south Minneapolis church (Original Post) orangecrush Aug 27 OP
20 shot. JFC. maxsolomon Aug 27 #1
What does "contained" mean? orangecrush Aug 27 #2
MSNBC is reporting that he is dead. nt DURHAM D Aug 27 #3
Dead, which is about as contained as you can get. Ocelot II Aug 27 #5
May Trump be contained. twodogsbarking Aug 27 #15
Oh, tell Orrex! Marthe48 Aug 27 #24
Strait jackets are great for that Oeditpus Rex Aug 28 #72
Based on the chief of police at the press conference House of Roberts Aug 27 #11
He's "in a pack," as the kids say. Meaning, dead. Efilroft Sul Aug 27 #27
Why don't they just say he's dead? Owl Aug 27 #31
That may not have been revealed by the cops Oeditpus Rex Aug 28 #71
Bodybagged Wicked Blue Aug 27 #44
What the fuck is an MSSA? Top results are: Bernardo de La Paz Aug 27 #4
MSSA is an acronym for Military-Style Semi-Automatic Rifle. maxsolomon Aug 27 #6
Take your cue from the article Bernardo de La Paz Aug 27 #8
The use of acronyms has gotten out of hand PatSeg Aug 27 #9
That's because it's "MSSA". maxsolomon Aug 27 #16
Sorry Max: James48 Aug 27 #46
It has a Wiki entry. I'm not making it up. maxsolomon Aug 27 #52
ICAM Cirsium Aug 27 #41
Ha, ha, ha!!! PatSeg Aug 27 #55
IDTOT Cirsium Aug 27 #65
Okay, you've got me laughing again! PatSeg Aug 27 #68
ROTFLMAO Cirsium Aug 28 #69
Whoa! PatSeg Aug 28 #70
Here we go Cirsium Aug 28 #76
Oh, it has become a crusade for me PatSeg Aug 28 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author aeromanKC Aug 27 #25
Why do they bring them to church? bucolic_frolic Aug 27 #7
This guy was shooting at them from outside the church Callie1979 Aug 27 #66
Feels nothing at all anymore like the world I grew up in Torchlight Aug 27 #10
There had been very few mass shootings across the US when I was at Univ of WI-very large riversedge Aug 27 #13
On a side note moniss Aug 27 #29
James Huberty, 1984 Oeditpus Rex Aug 28 #73
msnbc saying 2 children KILLED, 14 kids and 3 adults injured in shootng HORRIBLE riversedge Aug 27 #12
...and when they say "injuries" it doesn't always mean a sprain. C Moon Aug 27 #63
trump has his excuse to send troops into Minneapolis now Bayard Aug 27 #14
Must be a white male shooter, therefore no problem at all. Anyone else and the 82nd airborne would be parachuting in. LiberalArkie Aug 27 #18
You're right & he had lots of crazy writings & drawings. Shouldve been a RED FLAG Callie1979 Aug 27 #67
The shooter was a trans woman marshall Aug 28 #75
OMG--it is the perfect excuse for trump now. damn riversedge Aug 27 #20
The gunman "shot through the church windows, police say, adding that he then turned a gun on himself" riversedge Aug 27 #17
Heartbreaking mzmolly Aug 27 #19
This happened in a school where prayer part of the daily routine..so LeftinOH Aug 27 #21
Seven children in critical condition - doctor sayspublished at 11:23 11:23 We're now hearing from Thomas Wyatt, Chair o riversedge Aug 27 #22
Aged six to fourteen. No words. Scrivener7 Aug 27 #32
Victims as young as six. SIX YEARS OLD. calimary Aug 27 #45
Contained ? Nigrum Cattus Aug 27 #23
In a bag. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 27 #26
Good orangecrush Aug 27 #35
So the trump election strategy is to pay ancianita Aug 27 #28
Have they rolled out angrychair Aug 27 #30
Ahh, the talking points. calimary Aug 27 #42
It's the guns. Iggo Aug 27 #58
We have *two* mental-health crises Oeditpus Rex Aug 28 #74
Well, the pedophilianfelon's billionaire friends need more money... Justice matters. Aug 27 #48
Kick CountAllVotes Aug 27 #33
Nothing says "USA" like an NRA Back To School special Blue Owl Aug 27 #34
My country continues to horrifying me, daily. Passages Aug 27 #36
Stupid ass coward Jilly_in_VA Aug 27 #37
I bet he's a registered Republican as well perdita9 Aug 27 #40
Nope. Anti-Trump, and sadly, gender-expansive. TommyT139 Aug 27 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Aug 27 #64
Gotta Wonder If This Was Timed Deep State Witch Aug 27 #38
PRAYERS DO NOT WORK! perdita9 Aug 27 #39
THIS. calimary Aug 27 #47
Has Trump or Fox News said which Latin American country the shooter is from yet? LiberalArkie Aug 27 #43
No, but Alex Jones/Infowars is saying the FBI told them the shooter was trans. RockRaven Aug 27 #56
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 27 #57
Were those names on the guns mean anything? BigmanPigman Aug 27 #62
I want to run down there immediately, but I know better. OldBaldy1701E Aug 27 #49
Good man. orangecrush Aug 27 #61
Yawn...... nothing to get excited over, just another day in 'murica. groundloop Aug 27 #50
Where Was the National Guard? MrWowWow Aug 27 #51
School children get thoughts and prayers. Guns get protective legislation. Norrrm Aug 27 #53
What are Minnesota's gun laws? published at 11:59 riversedge Aug 27 #59
Suspect's mother previously worked at school............retired in Aug of 2021 riversedge Aug 27 #60

maxsolomon

(37,356 posts)
1. 20 shot. JFC.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:22 AM
Aug 27

The National Guard isn't going to stop one crazy fuck with an MSSA, President Dipshit Dotard.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,745 posts)
72. Strait jackets are great for that
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 05:00 PM
Aug 28

Especially when punctuated by a ball gag and leg shackles (if they make them in his size).

Your way's better, though.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,745 posts)
71. That may not have been revealed by the cops
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 04:50 PM
Aug 28

at the time this story was filed. The quotation marks around "contained" lead me to think that was the case.

Eta: The use of "gunman" tells me the story was filed before the cops knew or revealed the shooter identified as female. But then, I don't know KARE's policy on gender identity, so...

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,424 posts)
4. What the fuck is an MSSA? Top results are:
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:25 AM
Aug 27

Top results are all about this:

https://www.webmd.com › skin-problems-and-treatments › what-is-mssa-bacteremia
MSSA Bacteremia: What Is it, What Causes it, and How Is it Treated? - WebMD
Apr 20, 2025MSSA bacteremia is a serious infection that occurs when staph bacteria enter the bloodstream. Learn how to prevent, diagnose, and treat this condition with antibiotics and other measures.

maxsolomon

(37,356 posts)
6. MSSA is an acronym for Military-Style Semi-Automatic Rifle.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:29 AM
Aug 27

If you've spent time arguing about firearms on DU, you learn that's the term Gunners recognize as accurate, versus "Assault Rifle".

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,424 posts)
8. Take your cue from the article
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:41 AM
Aug 27

You should not expect your readers to have spent time arguing firearms on DU.

Like the article explained IED, a much more common term, you could have explained MSSAR in parentheses. However the usual way is to use the acronym and then in parentheses expand it.

PatSeg

(50,950 posts)
9. The use of acronyms has gotten out of hand
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:59 AM
Aug 27

It usually is very easy to just type out the words if you want people to understand what you're saying.

That is the first time I've ever seen "MSSAR" and would have no idea what it means. Thanks.

maxsolomon

(37,356 posts)
16. That's because it's "MSSA".
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:21 PM
Aug 27

I guess all the DU Gunners have gone away. In the Obama Era, they'd have jumped on me for using "Assault Rifle" like Hobos on a Ham Sandwich (HOAHS).



James48

(4,943 posts)
46. Sorry Max:
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:50 PM
Aug 27

I own guns , always have, and I have no idea what that acronym is.

And I own multiple weapons previously used by militaries all over the world, and models patterned after them as well.

PatSeg

(50,950 posts)
55. Ha, ha, ha!!!
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:16 PM
Aug 27


I had a whole thread going on Facebook about this several years ago and we were all making up our own obscure acronyms just to make a point. It was very funny.

PatSeg

(50,950 posts)
68. Okay, you've got me laughing again!
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 09:42 PM
Aug 27

We must be some kind of twins.

I had some excellent English teachers who are probably turning over in their graves because of what social media has done to the English language.

Cirsium

(2,873 posts)
69. ROTFLMAO
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 01:22 PM
Aug 28

TYVM! GMTA, right? YTMND. I say this AAF.

AFAIC, it's a royal PITA trying decipher all of these acronyms, IMNSHO, and it's a BFD. SMDH. But TBH IANARS and YMMV, IYKWIM. JOOC, IYDMMA, R U in agreement? LMK.

FWIW, AAMOF, U R correct. DAE see it this way?

TTYL. MTFBWY!

EOM. Maybe EOT?

Cirsium

(2,873 posts)
76. Here we go
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 08:01 PM
Aug 28

Thank you very much! Great minds think alike, right? You're the man now, dog!. I say this as a friend.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a royal pain in the ass trying to decipher all of these acronyms, in my not so humble opinion, and it's a big f-ig deal. Shaking my damn head. But to be honest, I am not a rocket scientist and your mileage may vary, if you know what I mean. Just out of curiosity, if you don't mind me asking, are you in agreement? Let me know.

For what it's worth, as a matter of fact, you are correct. Does anyone else see it this way?

Talk to you later. May the force be with you!

End of message. Maybe end of thread?

PatSeg

(50,950 posts)
77. Oh, it has become a crusade for me
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 10:19 PM
Aug 28

When we comment online, the point is to communicate. If I have to go look up an obscure acronym, that puts limits on the communication. Sometimes I can't even find what it means; I think some people just make them up as they go whether it is to save them time or to purposely be elusive. I find it often rude and inconsiderate.

Also there are exclusive acronyms that people of certain occupations use in the workplace. Somehow they often take those home with them and annoy friends and family with their "work speak", as if everyone in the world knows what they mean. I've had jobs like that, but I knew that other people wouldn't know what I'm talking about, so I never used them outside work.

We aren't the only ones who get annoyed with them, though it might be generational!

Thanks for the conversation. Take care.

Response to maxsolomon (Reply #6)

bucolic_frolic

(52,410 posts)
7. Why do they bring them to church?
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 11:39 AM
Aug 27

It's always some wacko trying to save the world. minds are under a lot of stress in America.

Callie1979

(923 posts)
66. This guy was shooting at them from outside the church
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 07:37 PM
Aug 27

Should've never been allowed to own a gun

Torchlight

(5,695 posts)
10. Feels nothing at all anymore like the world I grew up in
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:00 PM
Aug 27

I never gave a thought to mass shootings in school or even college. I vaguely remember a mass shooting in CA at a McDonald's (early 80s?) getting wall-to-wall coverage because it was such an aberration from our norm. The here and now seems to provide it to us a monthly normal now, rather than a bizarre oddity.

riversedge

(77,794 posts)
13. There had been very few mass shootings across the US when I was at Univ of WI-very large
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:12 PM
Aug 27

campus with lots of international students. No shootings that I recall at the University

moniss

(8,082 posts)
29. On a side note
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:56 PM
Aug 27

did you ever see the documentary about the UW-Madison Vietnam protests? It is stunning to look back and see how young everyone was and even high school kids taking part. Having lived through it all I, like many others, put some aspects of it all in the back corners of our minds. Years ago when I saw it it was a huge impact to realize that we were literally children and helped raise hell to the point that we did was striking to my memory and brought back the memories of how fearful, angry and determined we were. I believe it was titled "The War At Home" or something similar. It focused entirely on UW.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,745 posts)
73. James Huberty, 1984
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 05:39 PM
Aug 28

San Ysidro (San Diego suburb). Huberty told his wife he was mentally ill, and shortly after walked i to a McDonald's and began firing, killing 22 people.

That was five years after the shooting at a San Diego high school by a 16-year-girl who gave the reason, "I don't like Mondays." The resulting eponymous song by Bob Geldof (then of the Boomtown Rats) propelled him to superstardom.

C Moon

(13,179 posts)
63. ...and when they say "injuries" it doesn't always mean a sprain.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 05:01 PM
Aug 27

Probably some horrific injuries.

Bayard

(26,988 posts)
14. trump has his excuse to send troops into Minneapolis now
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:13 PM
Aug 27

I hope the 20 victims are not dead.

LiberalArkie

(18,944 posts)
18. Must be a white male shooter, therefore no problem at all. Anyone else and the 82nd airborne would be parachuting in.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:23 PM
Aug 27

marshall

(6,697 posts)
75. The shooter was a trans woman
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 07:10 PM
Aug 28

Don’t let transphobia overshadow the tragedy suffered here.

riversedge

(77,794 posts)
17. The gunman "shot through the church windows, police say, adding that he then turned a gun on himself"
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:22 PM
Aug 27


..........The gunman was armed with a rifle, shotgun and pistol and shot through the church windows, police say, adding that he then turned a gun on himself
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cly22nkpz8gt


LeftinOH

(5,583 posts)
21. This happened in a school where prayer part of the daily routine..so
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:29 PM
Aug 27

maybe the folks who claim that school shootings started to happen when prayer was "taken out of schools" could just not..

It's not even the first time there's been a shooting at a religious school (or a church).

riversedge

(77,794 posts)
22. Seven children in critical condition - doctor sayspublished at 11:23 11:23 We're now hearing from Thomas Wyatt, Chair o
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:29 PM
Aug 27

Seven children in critical condition - doctor says published at 11:23
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cly22nkpz8gt?post=asset%3Abf8bc146-9b89-430d-8b7b-1fe5f12a3e56#post

11:23

We're now hearing from Thomas Wyatt, Chair of the Department of Emergency Medicine at Hennepin Healthcare.

Seven critical patients were brought in and four needed surgery, Wyatt says.

He also says the patients were aged between six and 14 years old.

He adds that he can't give any individual patient information, but at the moment they're all alive.

calimary

(87,834 posts)
45. Victims as young as six. SIX YEARS OLD.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:45 PM
Aug 27

The oldest, only 14. FOURTEEN!!!

I have no words AND thousands of words at the same time. And right now.

ancianita

(41,853 posts)
28. So the trump election strategy is to pay
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:54 PM
Aug 27

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gunners (promise to set their families up for life, say) to mass shoot, which gives him "cause" for deploying troops into battlegrounds -- to "protect his beautiful christians ... Nice church ya got here, too bad if somethin' happened to it."

This protection racket strategy will be enacted in every battleground state over the next 14 months.

Keep christians from voting, keep the rest of the state intimidated to stay away from election polls so as to shut down a high turnout that current polls show could happen (e.g., the Iowa special election).

angrychair

(11,152 posts)
30. Have they rolled out
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 12:59 PM
Aug 27

The "thoughts and prayers" and "now is not the time..." talking points yet?
How about "we shouldn't be politicizing this tragedy right now"?
Or the "we have a mental health crisis in our country" but say they still plan to continue to give known dangerously mentally ill people access to guns? Plus continue to cut mental health care?

Classic.

calimary

(87,834 posts)
42. Ahh, the talking points.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:32 PM
Aug 27

“Thoughts and prayers” don’t work.
“Now is not the time” doesn’t work.
“We shouldn’t be politicizing this tragedy” doesn’t work.
And certainly the bullshit “we have a mental health crisis in our country” DOESN’T WORK, DAMMIT!!!

I want to know WHEN we start taking the damn fucking guns AWAY????

And please nobody start with the “but but but cars kill people too, should we get rid of THEM TOO?” bullshit.

It’s the GUNS.

It’s the GOD DAMN FUCKING GUNS!!!!!!!






And two little kids who’ll never see another birthday…

Oeditpus Rex

(42,745 posts)
74. We have *two* mental-health crises
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 05:52 PM
Aug 28

The overall one and the one that allows the dangerously mentally ill to buy guns..

But, they're connected only tangentially, and merely talking about them does nothing.

Justice matters.

(8,884 posts)
48. Well, the pedophilianfelon's billionaire friends need more money...
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:19 PM
Aug 27

They probably have stocks invested in gun-makers' businesses, so nothing will be done again.

Passages

(3,608 posts)
36. My country continues to horrifying me, daily.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:13 PM
Aug 27

....*multiple improvised explosive devices (IEDs).

Jilly_in_VA

(13,049 posts)
37. Stupid ass coward
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:15 PM
Aug 27

Just identify him already. I mean, we all know he has "mental health problems" since he obviously must be a white boy. No other excuses.

TommyT139

(1,898 posts)
54. Nope. Anti-Trump, and sadly, gender-expansive.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:15 PM
Aug 27

Offspring whose mother worked (perhaps still?) at the school.

This one will play big with the trumpists.

A tragedy, but for them, a useful one to exploit.

Response to perdita9 (Reply #40)

Deep State Witch

(12,199 posts)
38. Gotta Wonder If This Was Timed
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:19 PM
Aug 27

Tim Walz went after Yam Tits over the weekend. Now we have a school shooter in a Catholic school in Minneapolis. Gotta wonder if this was an operation to have Yam Tits send the NG into Minneapolis.

perdita9

(1,304 posts)
39. PRAYERS DO NOT WORK!
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:19 PM
Aug 27

The world's various religious institutions need to hit pause on their propaganda. We need to do something about crazy people having access to guns.

RockRaven

(18,017 posts)
56. No, but Alex Jones/Infowars is saying the FBI told them the shooter was trans.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:19 PM
Aug 27

I wish that were snark, but no that really is their headline.

Response to RockRaven (Reply #56)

BigmanPigman

(53,784 posts)
62. Were those names on the guns mean anything?
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:56 PM
Aug 27

Are they real people? Is it a cryptic message? I am not familiar with the lingo and symbols.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,057 posts)
49. I want to run down there immediately, but I know better.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 02:44 PM
Aug 27

Instead, I plan to contact the Church and see what I can do. I am not a Catholic (nor am I even a christian), but I worked in a Catholic school for almost a decade, so I still feel that connection.

So, as their savior would do, so will I. Not because he would, but because it is the decent and correct thing to do. I suspect he would approve.

(This just stinks of 'ulterior motive', I am going to just come right out and say it. No, we don't know anything yet, but that stench is unmistakeable...)

I also feel sick. Children should not keep being dragged into the adult political theater. They should not even be considered.

Only evil thinks about harming kids. Only evil.

MrWowWow

(1,228 posts)
51. Where Was the National Guard?
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:02 PM
Aug 27

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Oh that's right. They're not quite ready to do a "rapid response." They're currently busy rapidly responding in picking up garbage and cleaning toilets in DC. Thoughts and prayers do not affect positive change. Formalized religion has never done anything for anyone except put a target on their back.
.

Norrrm

(2,988 posts)
53. School children get thoughts and prayers. Guns get protective legislation.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:14 PM
Aug 27

School children get thoughts and prayers.
Guns get protective legislation.

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riversedge

(77,794 posts)
59. What are Minnesota's gun laws? published at 11:59
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:39 PM
Aug 27



What are Minnesota's gun laws?published at 11:59
11:59
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cly22nkpz8gt?post=asset%3Aec5bc494-e4ca-4014-8b0b-6e6fcff1f360#post

Kayla Epstein
US reporter

Minnesota, where Minneapolis is located, has got relatively strong gun safety laws compared to the US overall.

It ranks 14th out of the 50 states, according to an analysis by gun safety advocacy group Everytown.

Minnesota requires background checks for buying firearms, and people need permits to carry guns in public.

The state also restricts those with violent offences, felonies, or domestic abuse on their record.

Families can ask a court to temporarily stop an at-risk individual from having guns.

Authorities haven’t given details on how the Minneapolis shooting suspect got the firearms, whether he had permission to own or carry them. Details like this will probably take time to come out.

riversedge

(77,794 posts)
60. Suspect's mother previously worked at school............retired in Aug of 2021
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 03:43 PM
Aug 27



Suspect's mother previously worked at school
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cly22nkpz8gt?post=asset%3Aa6b4d013-9bba-4a70-9cce-bab5c932e10c#post

Suspect's mother previously worked at school published at 14:06
14:06

The suspected attacker's mother, Mary Grace Westman, previously worked at Annunciation Catholic School - according to a school newsletter from 2016.

The school newsletter welcomed Mary as the new Administrative Assistant in the Business Office.

A post on the church's Facebook says she retired from the school in August 2021.
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