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BumRushDaShow

(158,953 posts)
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 06:01 AM Aug 21

DOJ Tried To Get Names And Social Security Numbers Of Trans Kids

Source: Huff Post

Aug 20, 2025, 06:40 PM EDT


The Justice Department has demanded that a Philadelphia hospital hand over a broad swath of information related to gender-affirming care for minors, including individual patient names, dates of birth and Social Security numbers, according to a copy of a subpoena that became public in a court filing Monday.

The DOJ issued a subpoena to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia in June. It requested doctors’ emails, texts, social media and Zoom recordings dating to January 2020, long before any state legislature in the United States had passed a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender youth, The Washington Post first reported. The subpoena was made public this week in a court filing by the Washington state attorney general’s office.

Washington State Attorney General Nicholas W. Brown sued the Trump administration in January to block two executive orders that tried to withhold federal funding from institutions that offered gender-affirming care. Brown wrote in court documents that he included the subpoena to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia because President Donald Trump has “only escalated” his attacks since a federal judge initially blocked Trump’s efforts to curb youth gender care in March.

Last month, Attorney General Pam Bondi announced that the Justice Department had issued more than 20 subpoenas to doctors and clinics that it said “mutilated children in the service of a warped ideology.” It was not clear at the time what information the government was seeking from these health care providers. DOJ did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-administration-justice-department-pam-boni-investigation-trans-health-care_n_68a634cfe4b0903a790db10f



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DOJ Tried To Get Names And Social Security Numbers Of Trans Kids (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 21 OP
this has got to stop Skittles Aug 21 #1
They need to be forced to explain this. And the autism list, for that matter. Because frankly, history has shown that Karasu Aug 21 #2
Recommend reading the entire HuffPo article at the link. A lot more to digest... hlthe2b Aug 21 #3
They want to start suing hospitals, providers, parents. Irish_Dem Aug 21 #4
The Philly Inquirer had a feature story on the front page this morning on this BumRushDaShow Aug 21 #5
Releasing this information is going to be very damaging to patients. Irish_Dem Aug 21 #8
PA has no law regarding trans care (for any age) BumRushDaShow Aug 21 #10
But they can't survive without federal funding TommyT139 Aug 21 #14
There are multiple lawsuits in motion at the moment BumRushDaShow Aug 21 #15
Same here TommyT139 Aug 21 #17
Ps please use caution in posting here TommyT139 Aug 21 #18
I am a retired 30+ year fed BumRushDaShow Aug 21 #21
Remember though BumRushDaShow Aug 21 #20
There are forces at war with American citizens. We are the enemy of the military. twodogsbarking Aug 21 #6
With all the horrific problems... GiqueCee Aug 21 #7
These stunts keep the Evangelical rubes clapping and buying trump merch. 70sEraVet Aug 21 #9
Pedophile party wants what? Red Mountain Aug 21 #11
and the DOJ ignores the pedos azureblue Aug 21 #12
one word... keroro gunsou Aug 21 #13
How is it just being ignored? Bayard Aug 21 #19
Hands off, trans kids, effer! electric_blue68 Aug 21 #16
You know what is perverted? What the DOJ is doing. Perverts in denial. twodogsbarking Aug 21 #22

Karasu

(1,915 posts)
2. They need to be forced to explain this. And the autism list, for that matter. Because frankly, history has shown that
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 06:27 AM
Aug 21

there's only one reason why fascists ever want this kind of information.

Irish_Dem

(73,551 posts)
4. They want to start suing hospitals, providers, parents.
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 06:30 AM
Aug 21

Anyone who treats trans kids.

I have been warning about this for some time.

BumRushDaShow

(158,953 posts)
5. The Philly Inquirer had a feature story on the front page this morning on this
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 06:59 AM
Aug 21

particularly about the subpoena to CHOP (Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, which is the oldest of its kind in the U.S. and one of the largest in the world - I remember being in there as a young child, decades before they started all the new lo-rise and towers construction ). There are building yet another tower for it (they have a HUGE endowment) -


Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia New Inpatient Tower. Credit: Ballinger / ZGF / AEI via the Civic Design Review

Government’s demand for trans care info sought addresses, doctors’ notes, texts

by Casey Parks and David Ovalle, Washington Post
Published Aug. 21, 2025, 5:00 a.m. ET


The Justice Department is demanding that hospitals turn over a wide range of sensitive information related to medical care for young transgender patients, including billing documents, communication with drug manufacturers and data such as patient dates of birth, Social Security numbers, and addresses, according to a copy of a subpoena made public in a court filing this week.

The June subpoena to Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia requests emails, Zoom recordings, “every writing or record of whatever type” doctors have made, voicemails and text messages on encrypted platforms dating to January 2020 — before hormone therapy, puberty blockers, and gender transition surgery had been banned anywhere in the United States. About half of states have since passed laws prohibiting all or most gender treatment of minors. The Supreme Court ruled in June that a Tennessee ban did not violate the Constitution.

Attorney General Pam Bondi said last month that the Justice Department had issued more than 20 subpoenas seeking to hold “medical professionals and organizations that mutilated children in the service of a warped ideology” accountable. It is highly unusual for the nation’s chief law enforcement officer to announce such legal activity. Bondi did not identify who received the subpoenas, what information the government sought, or what potential law violations it is investigating.

In legal filings, CHOP has challenged the Trump administration’s right to the information sought in the subpoena, stressing the privacy concerns of a “uniquely vulnerable population.” CHOP said disclosing “exceedingly sensitive” and “intimate, personal details” about the “lives and struggles” of these patients “would be very damaging” to their mental health and “could even result in thoughts of, or completed, suicide.”

(snip)


I know others have lawsuits against this intrusive demand.

Irish_Dem

(73,551 posts)
8. Releasing this information is going to be very damaging to patients.
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 08:02 AM
Aug 21

And families.

Trump will sue all the adults involved.
Parents may lose custody of their children etc.
and pay out the nose in lawsuits.
Hospitals will get hit hard too.

It is going to be very ugly.

BumRushDaShow

(158,953 posts)
10. PA has no law regarding trans care (for any age)
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 08:49 AM
Aug 21

nor is there any federal law against it. An E.O. isn't "law" and is merely supposed to direct how agencies interpret existing law, but it is being misused as being some kind of "law".

TommyT139

(1,767 posts)
14. But they can't survive without federal funding
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 10:40 AM
Aug 21

...which will be cut off entirely, at all levels, for every purpose.

This is like in submarine movies, where if you have codebooks, you need to burn them. Parents should be given a copy of their kids' charts and then the databases should be deleted.

Or, you know, fall prey to malware. That could have been what happened, too.

BumRushDaShow

(158,953 posts)
15. There are multiple lawsuits in motion at the moment
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 10:44 AM
Aug 21

and 45 has lost a bunch regarding cutting off funding and in many cases, 45 finally complied. The "losses" that 45 has racked up are rarely featured in the M$M.

I try to dig daily through dozens of news sites to find the stories of the suits being filed (along with appeals) and the results.

TommyT139

(1,767 posts)
17. Same here
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 11:42 AM
Aug 21

I know some of the people involved - former coworkers, conference friends -- and the thing is, those lawsuits will take a long time. The SC has already shown it is unwilling to prioritize science, or even that convenient-when-they-feel-like-it "parents rights" excuse. Hospitals, with few exceptions, are closing down not only minor care, but in some places, adult trans care too.

Everybody knows where this is going. Hospitals and doctors can't wait out until they win a suit - and then they'll have to get moneys released, usually needing to sue, again.

This is the same tactic that the trumpists use elsewhere: if they can apply quasi-legal power, they do, and if not, they cut off money and drag things out in the courts.

In rare situations, legal victories happen, for instance a case against a medical provider being dismissed because the health care org was a federally qualified health care ctr, so the med pro was a federal employee and thus couldn't be sued by the plaintiff. We'll see what happens next, frankly -- as the organization sees no minors, there might be a grace period, at least until Trump (and the American Principles Project, et al) figure out how to end trans medical care altogether.

TommyT139

(1,767 posts)
18. Ps please use caution in posting here
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 11:47 AM
Aug 21

DU is an open site, and discussions frequently end up in search results on the big G. If you know of a more secure space, especially where trans & queer health and civil rights efforts are being discussed, I'd be grateful for a DM.

BumRushDaShow

(158,953 posts)
21. I am a retired 30+ year fed
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 12:13 PM
Aug 21

and I know since I have been on DU, there has always been joking about "Agent Mike", although with this administration, we are probably closest to having that become a reality. One can only hope that the SCOTUS still upholds the very first Amendment to the Constitution. But the one thing that is not tolerated (even for the 1st Amendment) is physical "threats" and that is something to avoid.

BumRushDaShow

(158,953 posts)
20. Remember though
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 12:06 PM
Aug 21

(and this is a separate issue that has been contested mightily itself), many hospitals nowadays are run by private equities. It's rare to find an "indie" hospital that is not already under a University medical system or is not owned/run by a private equity firm.

So there is a different dynamic. Plus HiPAA hasn't suddenly gone away after almost 30 years of being in existence and the SCOTUS hasn't suddenly discarded it yet (like they have discarded other things).

GiqueCee

(2,751 posts)
7. With all the horrific problems...
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 08:01 AM
Aug 21

... this diseased and perverted administration has inflicted on the nation, and, in deed, the entire world, THIS is what you filthy scumbags are focusing your malicious attention on? Terrorizing vulnerable children and those people and institutions that care for them? What utterly despicable monsters you all are! A rabid hyena has more decency and compassion than ALL the Republicans that Satan ever shat out, combined!
And the most disgusting part of all this is that you dare to call yourselves "Christians". You're not. You're the furthest thing from "Christian" it is possible to be without having horns and a tail.
May each and everyone of you suffer a slow, agonizing death, alone and despised by everyone that ever had the misfortune to meet you, as well as those that were spared that trauma.

azureblue

(2,547 posts)
12. and the DOJ ignores the pedos
Thu Aug 21, 2025, 10:05 AM
Aug 21

in the White House and congress... They rape kids, and the DOJ does nothing.

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