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GJGCA

(123 posts)
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 06:02 PM Aug 19

FDA warns public not to eat possibly radioactive shrimp sold at Walmart

Source: ABC news

The Food and Drug Administration is warning the public not to eat, sell or serve certain Great Value raw frozen shrimp sold at Walmart due to possible contamination with Cesium-137, a radioactive isotope.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection alerted the FDA about possible Cesium-137, or Cs-137, detected in shipping containers at four U.S. ports, the FDA said Tuesday in a press release. Testing on frozen shrimp from the distributor, Indonesia's BMS Foods, also tested positive, the FDA said.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/fda-warns-public-eat-possibly-radioactive-shrimp-sold/story?id=124780934

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FDA warns public not to eat possibly radioactive shrimp sold at Walmart (Original Post) GJGCA Aug 19 OP
The US still has an FDA? stollen Aug 19 #1
I read they were cutting funding for the FDA.. whathehell Aug 19 #5
I knew it was Asian shrimp before even opening the story. Callie1979 Aug 19 #2
Too expensive ninjanurse Aug 19 #11
Our waters are cleaner than theirs. Add in their farmed shrimp for a real mess Callie1979 Aug 19 #19
Cleaner for now hadEnuf Aug 20 #37
The US does produce shrimp. Old Crank Aug 20 #31
Yes you can tell where it comes from on the label. Usually Vietnam. Callie1979 Aug 20 #38
Smething similar happened to Spiderman.. Permanut Aug 19 #3
RFK Jr. gonna be up there chowing down shrimp like George Costanza Prairie Gates Aug 19 #4
Well, the Jerk Store called... tinrobot Aug 19 #20
I wouldn't eat anything from Walmart Quanto Magnus Aug 19 #6
Hard to do ninjanurse Aug 19 #12
My ex-wife got curtains from there about 25 years ago wolfie001 Aug 19 #17
Go for the radio active shrimp...stay for the huge tariff!! Bengus81 Aug 19 #7
Glowing in the dark may be a clue you already did! Fla Dem Aug 19 #8
Fukushima ninjanurse Aug 19 #9
Cesium 137 is a product of nuclear reactions. Old Crank Aug 20 #32
That's a new one! Lulu KC Aug 19 #10
Sanitizing ninjanurse Aug 19 #15
Oops angryxyouth Aug 19 #13
Why am I not surprised? Talitha Aug 19 #14
I'm shocked the FDA is still in enough of a functional state to even make this announcement public. Karasu Aug 19 #16
Do they glow in the dark? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 19 #18
Bring your geiger counters to the seafood aisle tinrobot Aug 19 #21
Half life of Cesium 137 is 30 years. This stuff is f-ing deadly. nt Xipe Totec Aug 19 #22
How "deadly" is it? Can you share some numbers connected with the number of deaths it's caused? NNadir Aug 19 #24
It all depends on the concentration, doesn't it? Xipe Totec Aug 19 #27
Yes. It does depend on concentration. Shrimp naturally contain radioactive potassium 40, as well as polonium. NNadir Aug 20 #34
How do you like ya shrimp? twodogsbarking Aug 19 #23
Holy shit.... YoshidaYui Aug 19 #25
If you take RadX, first, it might be OK. Gore1FL Aug 19 #26
Self-BBQing Shrimp on the Barbi? James48 Aug 20 #28
Looks like just the raw shrimp Bayard Aug 20 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Aug 20 #30
Robert Kennedy will be feeding it to his family rpannier Aug 20 #33
Cesium137 Javaman Aug 20 #35
I'll bet there are many worse toxins in shrimp... hunter Aug 20 #36
I'm glad we already ate ours. I get irritable at having to throw away food. Seeking Serenity Aug 20 #39

Callie1979

(924 posts)
2. I knew it was Asian shrimp before even opening the story.
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 06:07 PM
Aug 19

We've got to stop buying that trashy shrimp.

ninjanurse

(113 posts)
11. Too expensive
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:06 PM
Aug 19

We’d have to put some money into keeping the US coast clean to get enough shrimp here and it wouldn’t be cheap

Callie1979

(924 posts)
19. Our waters are cleaner than theirs. Add in their farmed shrimp for a real mess
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 09:22 PM
Aug 19

Overfishing has been a problem in the past

Old Crank

(6,227 posts)
31. The US does produce shrimp.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 02:57 AM
Aug 20

From Texas to North Carolina. I don't know if you can tell by reading labels like you can in Europe. Food companies fought legislation to require source labeling in the US.

Callie1979

(924 posts)
38. Yes you can tell where it comes from on the label. Usually Vietnam.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 09:36 AM
Aug 20

Unless they've changed those rules too. Its been awhile since I bought frozen; we try to buy fresh from local stores that bring it in from the coast. Although who's to say where it REALLY comes from?

Permanut

(7,551 posts)
3. Smething similar happened to Spiderman..
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 06:09 PM
Aug 19

Disclaimer: Spiderman is fictitious, this stuff could be dangerous.

Quanto Magnus

(1,256 posts)
6. I wouldn't eat anything from Walmart
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 06:17 PM
Aug 19

I avoid that place like the plague.... Haven't been in one in around 20 years.... Not going to change that pattern...

wolfie001

(6,148 posts)
17. My ex-wife got curtains from there about 25 years ago
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:56 PM
Aug 19

I was the nice spouse helper That is the ONLY time I ever set foot in a WakMart. Never to return as well.

ninjanurse

(113 posts)
9. Fukushima
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:03 PM
Aug 19

I think that Cesium from Fukushima was showing up on the US West Coast after the disaster. The nuclear plant still dumps radioactive water into the ocean.

Old Crank

(6,227 posts)
32. Cesium 137 is a product of nuclear reactions.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 03:08 AM
Aug 20

It has a half life of 30 years. Articles I have read don't give any indication of where the radiation comes from. The US did a lot of nuke testing in the pacific islands. That may or may not have released more cesium into the oceans than Fukishima.
Articles that I read had no information about the amount of radiation other than low, or extremely low, not really helpful. Especially since we can detect at smaller and smaller amounts. Same with chemical contamination.

angryxyouth

(297 posts)
13. Oops
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:10 PM
Aug 19

I guess dumping millions of tons of radioactive water into the ocean by japan wasn’t a good idea. But I guess other countries have dumped lots of radioactive waste into the ocean also

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
16. I'm shocked the FDA is still in enough of a functional state to even make this announcement public.
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 07:46 PM
Aug 19

NNadir

(36,598 posts)
24. How "deadly" is it? Can you share some numbers connected with the number of deaths it's caused?
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 10:29 PM
Aug 19

Is it, for instance, as "dangerous" as say, air pollution, which kills seven million people per year without a whimper of protest.

Global burden of 87 risk factors in 204 countries and territories, 1990–2019: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2019 (Lancet Volume 396, Issue 10258, 17–23 October 2020, Pages 1223-1249).

Personally, I'm rather fond of 137Cs and often discuss with my son important uses for it.

I happen to be aware of deaths connected with it, but the numbers strike me as vanishingly small.

Xipe Totec

(44,396 posts)
27. It all depends on the concentration, doesn't it?
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 11:52 PM
Aug 19

But anyting that hangs around for that long becomes a constant threat, as opposed to other radioactive isotopes with shorter half lives.

Quote:

If ingested or inhaled, radioactive cesium is absorbed and distributed throughout soft tissues, particularly muscle, due to its similarity to potassium. Once inside the body, Cs-137 continues to emit radiation, increasing the risk of cancer. Internal exposure can cause symptoms similar to external exposure and may lead to reduced male fertility and developmental problems if exposure occurs during fetal development.

The primary long-term concern is an increased risk of cancer due to the internal radiation from the isotope's 30-year half-life. Chronic low-dose exposure can occur from consuming contaminated food or water in affected areas.

As for air polution and other contaminants, I won't diminish the impact of these sources. But Cesium contamination in this case is additive to the impact of air polution. It's not an either or situation; it's both.

NNadir

(36,598 posts)
34. Yes. It does depend on concentration. Shrimp naturally contain radioactive potassium 40, as well as polonium.
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 07:06 AM
Aug 20

All living things contain 40K without which they would die, since potassium is an essential element. The polonium in shrimp is a function of the fact that the oceans naturally contain about 4.5 billion tons of uranium, which is in secular equilibrium with polonium, a decay product.

This point was covered some years back, in the post Fukushima brouhaha, when the lives of tuna were being saved by human paranoia over the presence of another isotope of cesium, the more radioactive 134Cs in response to another paper written by the authors of this one: N.S. Fisher,K. Beaugelin-Seiller,T.G. Hinton,Z. Baumann,D.J. Madigan, & J. Garnier-Laplace, Evaluation of radiation doses and associated risk from the Fukushima nuclear accident to marine biota and human consumers of seafood, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U.S.A. 110 (26) 10670-10675.

The authors of the paper were appalled by the generally stupid media frenzy connected with their previous paper.

From the paper cited:

Recent reports describing the presence of radionuclides released from the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Pacific biota (1, 2) have aroused worldwide attention and concern. For example, the discovery of 134Cs and 137Cs in Pacific bluefin tuna (Thunnus orientalis; PBFT) that migrated from Japan to California waters (2) was covered by >1,100 newspapers worldwide and numerous internet, television, and radio outlets. Such widespread coverage reflects the public’s concern and general fear of radiation. Concerns are particularly acute if the artificial radionuclides are in human food items such as seafood. Although statements were released by government authorities, and indeed by the authors of these papers, indicating that radionuclide concentrations were well below all national safety food limits, the media and public failed to respond in measure. The mismatch between actual risk and the public’s perception of risk may be in part because these studies reported radionuclide activity concentrations in tissues of marine biota but did not report dose estimates and predicted health risks for the biota or for human consumers of contaminated seafood. We have therefore calculated the radiation doses absorbed by diverse marine biota in which radioactivity was quantified (1, 2) and humans that potentially consume contaminated PBFT. The aim of this paper is to provide estimated doses, and therefore objective risk estimates, to humans and marine biota...


If you were born after 1945, every fish or other seafood based animal and/or seaweed in sushi you have ever eaten has contained 137Cs from the era of open atmosphere nuclear testing. You are nonetheless, even if you have eaten seafood products, still alive.

YoshidaYui

(44,516 posts)
25. Holy shit....
Tue Aug 19, 2025, 10:44 PM
Aug 19

where the fuck do you get radio active shrimp?? maybe off the coast of Fukashima? geeze

Response to GJGCA (Original post)

Javaman

(64,497 posts)
35. Cesium137
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 07:45 AM
Aug 20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium-137

Caesium-137 (137
55Cs), cesium-137 (US),[7] or radiocaesium, is a radioactive isotope of caesium that is formed as one of the more common fission products by the nuclear fission of uranium-235 and other fissionable isotopes in nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons. Trace quantities also originate from spontaneous fission of uranium-238. It is among the most problematic of the short-to-medium-lifetime fission products. Caesium has a relatively low boiling point of 671 °C (1,240 °F) and easily becomes volatile when released suddenly at high temperature, as in the case of the Chernobyl nuclear accident and with atomic explosions, and can travel very long distances in the air. After being deposited onto the soil as radioactive fallout, it moves and spreads easily in the environment because of the high water solubility of caesium's most common chemical compounds, which are salts. Caesium-137 was discovered by Glenn T. Seaborg and Margaret Melhase.

Decay
Caesium-137 has a half-life of about 30.04 years, decaying by beta emission to stable 137Ba. About 94.6% of the decays go to a metastable nuclear isomer of barium: barium-137m (137mBa, Ba-137m) and the remainder directly to the ground state. Barium-137m has a half-life of about 153 seconds; its dropping to the ground state usually (85.1% of all Cs-137 decays) emitting photons having energy 0.6617 MeV; this is responsible for all of the gamma ray emissions in samples of 137Cs.

Health risks
The biological behaviour of caesium is similar to that of potassium[14] and rubidium. After entering the body, caesium gets more or less uniformly distributed throughout the body, with the highest concentrations in soft tissue.[15] : 114  However, unlike group 2 radionuclides like radium and strontium-90, caesium does not bioaccumulate and is excreted relatively quickly. The biological half-life of caesium is about 70 days.[16]

A 1961 experiment showed that mice dosed with 21.5 μCi/g had a 50% fatality within 30 days (implying an LD50 of 245 μg/kg).[17] A similar experiment in 1972 showed that when dogs are subjected to a whole body burden of 3800 μCi/kg (140 MBq/kg, or approximately 44 μg/kg) of caesium-137 (and 950 to 1400 rads), they die within 33 days, while animals with half of that burden all survived for a year.[18]

Important researches have shown a remarkable concentration of 137Cs in the exocrine cells of the pancreas, which are those most affected by cancer.[19][20][21] In 2003, in autopsies performed on 6 children who died in the polluted area near Chernobyl (of reasons not directly linked to the Chernobyl disaster; mostly sepsis), where they also reported a higher incidence of pancreatic tumors, Bandazhevsky found a concentration of 137Cs 3.9 times higher than in their livers (1359 vs 347 Bq/kg, equivalent to 36 and 9.3 nCi/kg in these organs, 600 Bq/kg = 16 nCi/kg in the body according to measurements), thus demonstrating that pancreatic tissue is a strong accumulator and secretor in the intestine of radioactive caesium.[22] Accidental ingestion of caesium-137 can be treated with Prussian blue (FeIII4[FeII(CN)6] 3), which binds to it chemically and reduces the biological half-life to 30 days.[2

hunter

(39,928 posts)
36. I'll bet there are many worse toxins in shrimp...
Wed Aug 20, 2025, 08:02 AM
Aug 20

... that are completely ignored because they are not so easy to detect.

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