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BumRushDaShow

(160,105 posts)
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:14 AM Aug 13

'Where are the limits?' Fed-up judge cuts off Trump DOJ from the bench

Source: Raw Story

August 12, 2025 8:21PM ET


U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer, presiding over a case in San Francisco regarding President Donald Trump’s deployment of military forces to Los Angeles in June, pressed the Department of Justice for answers during a Tuesday hearing. “Where are the limits? Where are the limits?” the judge repeatedly asked, cutting off the DOJ, according to reporting by journalist Adam Klasfeld.

Breyer is hearing arguments to determine whether the Trump administration broke federal law by deploying National Guard troops and U.S. Marines to Los Angeles in response to June protests over immigration raids. The operation, which aimed to disperse demonstrators in Los Angeles against immigration raids, was criticized by legal experts.

During Tuesday's hearing, the judge emphasized the inherent danger of law enforcement, asking if that justified a carte blanche use of military force inside American cities. The DOJ lawyer, in seeking to defend the deployment, offered no clear boundaries, prompting concern about unchecked executive authority.

On the opposing side, California's legal team offered vehement objections. “There has been a standing army in Los Angeles for two months,” the state’s lawyer declared. The attorney further argued forcefully for judicial intervention.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/department-of-justice-2673879834/

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'Where are the limits?' Fed-up judge cuts off Trump DOJ from the bench (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 13 OP
Come on, Breyer, make the right call and shut own this unconstitutional use of the military!! nt lark Aug 13 #1
Even if he does... OldBaldy1701E Aug 13 #2
True. But he should do it anyway. Acquiescence is not an option if we want to save the USA we've had for 2.5 centuries KPN Aug 13 #6
I cannot argue with that. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Aug 13 #9
It's not just the awful man at the top MaineBlueBear Aug 13 #3
This! maspaha Aug 13 #5
We are occupied. airmid Aug 13 #4
Not yet. Just two places are. ancianita Aug 13 #7
Trump's Posse Comitatus trial wraps (Analysis with Michael Popok / Legal AF) OKIsItJustMe Aug 13 #8

lark

(25,444 posts)
1. Come on, Breyer, make the right call and shut own this unconstitutional use of the military!! nt
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:28 AM
Aug 13

OldBaldy1701E

(9,043 posts)
2. Even if he does...
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:03 AM
Aug 13

They will just run it up to the Supreme Sellouts and they will allow him to do whatever he wants.

Are we still trying to follow the 'rule of law' when said rule has been so horribly and completely corrupted? if so, then we are going to lose the entire enchilada.

Time for a cool change.

KPN

(16,916 posts)
6. True. But he should do it anyway. Acquiescence is not an option if we want to save the USA we've had for 2.5 centuries
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 12:10 PM
Aug 13

now.

MaineBlueBear

(299 posts)
3. It's not just the awful man at the top
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:07 AM
Aug 13

But all of the traitorous underlings supporting his unconstitutional use of the military. There's no one to hold them accountable except Congress.

Really wish the media would do its job.

ancianita

(41,788 posts)
7. Not yet. Just two places are.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 04:23 PM
Aug 13

But if this Judge Breyer in San Francisco rules that the administration criminally violated the Posse comitatus Act, the military has more grounds to refuse being turned inward, and LA will be de-occupied.

The worst case is if Breyer rules against Trump, and then Trump proceeds to deploy the military into cities anyway. There could then be civil unrest that he would love to use as his pretext for invoking the Insurrection Act, which bypasses the Posse comitatus Act and so begins his militarized occupation of the country -- or at least the blue states he'll try to control.

If that happens, then I'd join you and say "we are occupied by a military dictatorship." But even then, the military could itself refuse to abide by what it might consider unconstitutional order, in that every last person in US military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution, not the commander-in-chief.

Since none of that has happened yet, you're too soon.

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