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BumRushDaShow

(160,228 posts)
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 05:53 AM Aug 13

U.S. national debt reaches a record $37 trillion, the Treasury Department reports

Source: NBC News/AP

Aug. 12, 2025, 7:03 PM EDT


The U.S. government’s gross national debt has surpassed $37 trillion, a record number that highlights the accelerating debt on America’s balance sheet and increased cost pressures on taxpayers.

The $37 trillion update is found in the latest Treasury Department report issued Tuesday which logs the nation’s daily finances.

The national debt eclipsed $37 trillion years sooner than pre-pandemic projections. The Congressional Budget Office’s January 2020 projections had gross federal debt eclipsing $37 trillion after fiscal year 2030. But the debt grew faster than expected because of a multi-year COVID-19 pandemic starting in 2020 that shut down much of the U.S. economy, where the federal government borrowed heavily under then-President Donald Trump and former President Joe Biden to stabilize the national economy and support a recovery.

And now, more government spending has been approved after Trump signed into law Republicans’ tax cut and spending legislation earlier this year. The law set to add $4.1 trillion to the national debt over the next decade, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/us-national-debt-reaches-record-37-trillion-treasury-department-report-rcna224511

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U.S. national debt reaches a record $37 trillion, the Treasury Department reports (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 13 OP
G.O.P. admits full responsibility BoRaGard Aug 13 #1
I'm surprised this was allowed to be released Auggie Aug 13 #2
truth must ne incredibly worse. rampartd Aug 13 #3
Biden and Obama will get blamed. OLDMDDEM Aug 13 #27
Remember when Darth Cheney said MrWowWow Aug 13 #4
Back when Cheney was president (not a misprint) gab13by13 Aug 13 #10
Inflation ahead bucolic_frolic Aug 13 #5
I agree 100% gab13by13 Aug 13 #11
And the collapse of the Stock Markets and Citizens investments popsdenver Aug 13 #25
Trump's trying as hard as he can-however, don't worry: he'll deprecate the US dollar as currency and replace it with ... xocetaceans Aug 13 #36
He should eliminate the Treasury Department doc03 Aug 13 #6
Trump is aiming for bankruptcy number 7-this one the United States of America. Lonestarblue Aug 13 #7
Krasnov doesn't give a damn about the economy, gab13by13 Aug 13 #12
Won't it be a scene when the cryptocurrency crashes MrsCheaplaugh Aug 13 #19
We all knew it would get worse because Trump said it would get better. Folks should know by now. twodogsbarking Aug 13 #8
at some point, it will get so high that we won't be able to pay the interest Javaman Aug 13 #9
Pretty sure, not positive, gab13by13 Aug 13 #13
yeah, I saw all sorts of numbers, when doing a Quick Look to see what the threshold was but couldn't find a hard number. Javaman Aug 13 #31
No pun intended? n/t xocetaceans Aug 13 #37
Wait with all those trillions and trillions of Tariffs money coming in it should be going down Historic NY Aug 13 #14
He leaves out how HIM and REPUBLICANS in Congress just foisted HUGE tax increase on everyone Bengus81 Aug 13 #15
In other words business in the US is paying and they will have to charge the consumer Historic NY Aug 13 #20
They pay the tariff at one of the 328 Ports of entry into the US to the US Treasury Bengus81 Aug 13 #21
"Huge tax increases on everyone" popsdenver Aug 13 #26
Conservatives are programmed to obsess over the debt. Hieronymus Phact Aug 13 #16
They're not worried about it now BumRushDaShow Aug 13 #17
I disagree. Hieronymus Phact Aug 13 #32
In the lead-up to passage of that bill BumRushDaShow Aug 13 #33
It's the largest national debt anyone has ever seen. Bigly. twodogsbarking Aug 13 #18
Almost thirty years ago Clinton had a balanced budget and a surplus. He taxed the rich Bengus81 Aug 13 #23
$.99 gas. twodogsbarking Aug 13 #24
Just some interesting spending facts I dug up angryxyouth Aug 13 #22
Good call out !!!!!!!!!!!!! popsdenver Aug 13 #28
From the fiscal responsible party. republianmushroom Aug 13 #29
And everyone saw this coming: that Dump would balloon the debt sakabatou Aug 13 #30
But, that is before the budget director multiplies the amount of the debt by a -1 to get the true amount of the surplus LiberalArkie Aug 13 #34
Gee, when do we switch to Crypto? Will there be pennies? FOX, where are ya. twodogsbarking Aug 13 #35
This is good Turbineguy Aug 13 #38
Funny how a $5Tn increase in the national debt limit got slipped into Bluetus Aug 13 #39
The super wealthy are loving it. They looted the treasury and now for the rest of us the next step is austerity LT Barclay Aug 13 #40
What a surprise!!! Quanto Magnus Aug 13 #41
Government debt is relative Septua Aug 13 #42
Nothing to worry about! Until we have a Democratic President. thought crime Aug 13 #43

BoRaGard

(7,556 posts)
1. G.O.P. admits full responsibility
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 06:06 AM
Aug 13

"Although in a way, it really is your fault. We are going to blame you anyway -- with a big PR bullshit campaign, as usual. You were dumb enough to actually believe the lies we told you. Therefore, it's all your fault, Mr. and Ms. America. Ha ha. Stupid suckers." - G.O.P.

gab13by13

(29,800 posts)
10. Back when Cheney was president (not a misprint)
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:11 AM
Aug 13

Our GDP covered the interest on our debt. People looked at Debt - to GDP. I'm pretty sure we are at the stage, or close, where our GDP doesn't cover the interest on our debt. I could be wrong.

gab13by13

(29,800 posts)
11. I agree 100%
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:14 AM
Aug 13

Krasnov will force Powell to lower interest rates which will boost inflation. Also, the full effects of the tariffs will hit us in the next 2 or 3 months, boosting inflation.

All of this will crater the value of the dollar which is what Krasnov really wants, a deflated dollar and strong crypto.

popsdenver

(481 posts)
25. And the collapse of the Stock Markets and Citizens investments
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:02 AM
Aug 13

and all of our retirement funds...............

If Putin has a long bucket list, or wish list, of things to do to destroy The United States of America,....... every single thing Trump and these Republicans are doing, or have done, is on it, and being checked off by Putin

Putin must be ecstatic, along with every other Tyrant run country in the world..........

xocetaceans

(4,268 posts)
36. Trump's trying as hard as he can-however, don't worry: he'll deprecate the US dollar as currency and replace it with ...
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 01:59 PM
Aug 13

... $Trump$Coin$ or whatever his current cryptocurrency grift allows. The MAGA GOP might just even go along with that.

It is not hard to imagine that one (or several) of Trump's minions/lackeys might think "outside the box" and suggest, "Hey, we can avoid this debt by destroying the currency in which the debt is held. No one will see this coming, and it's bold, so why not? Let's move fast and break things. The financial industry is old and needs to be shaken up. We can even replace Powell and the Fed with our own Trump Reserve with Trump as its CEO and chairman ... ."

So, all of this might be very, very hyperbolic, but I would not put it past him. He and his minions are stupid and greedy enough to have done many, many other truly idiotic things.

doc03

(38,396 posts)
6. He should eliminate the Treasury Department
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:14 AM
Aug 13

problem solved? If nobody reports it it didn't happen.

Lonestarblue

(12,924 posts)
7. Trump is aiming for bankruptcy number 7-this one the United States of America.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:33 AM
Aug 13

Trump has the business acumen of a rock. His primary talent is grifting. Casinos practically print money, but Trump took its assets out to fund his lavish lifestyle, leaving investors holding the bag and not much value left in any of his companies. He is doing the same to the US, taking away our major assets like scientific and medical research, top-notch universities that the brightest young people around the world no longer want to attend, destroying the economy and any goodwill toward the US with a stupid tariff war, attempting to erase fair elections with the help of the Supreme Court, and turning our law enforcement agencies into his personal army t run roughshod over anyone he chooses. We are a banana republic already.

gab13by13

(29,800 posts)
12. Krasnov doesn't give a damn about the economy,
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:17 AM
Aug 13

he could care less if we went into recession. Krasnov wants 2 things, a weak dollar and strong crypto. Krasnov wants to be the richest person in the world, that is his only economic goal.

MrsCheaplaugh

(247 posts)
19. Won't it be a scene when the cryptocurrency crashes
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:12 AM
Aug 13

Tulips, South Sea Company shares, cryptocurrency. What goes up must come down.

Javaman

(64,489 posts)
9. at some point, it will get so high that we won't be able to pay the interest
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:49 AM
Aug 13

then things get really interesting.

gab13by13

(29,800 posts)
13. Pretty sure, not positive,
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:18 AM
Aug 13

we are at that stage now where our GDP doesn't cover the interest on our debt.

With Krasnov crashing the value of the dollar who will buy up our debt?

Javaman

(64,489 posts)
31. yeah, I saw all sorts of numbers, when doing a Quick Look to see what the threshold was but couldn't find a hard number.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:51 AM
Aug 13

but I know at the rate we are going, it's going to be sooner than later for sure.

I think our debt will be broken up and parceled out to a number of other countries. China being one of them.

Historic NY

(39,279 posts)
14. Wait with all those trillions and trillions of Tariffs money coming in it should be going down
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:22 AM
Aug 13
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/08/12/trump-says-his-tariffs-collected-trillions-in-revenue-so-far-heres-the-real-figure/]


“Trillions of dollars are being taken in on tariffs,” Trump wrote on Truth Social, suggesting his levies have “not caused inflation, or any other problems for America, other than massive amounts of CASH pouring into our Treasury’s coffers.”

Trump leaves out that tariffs are paid by U.S. companies to import foreign goods, with those costs eventually paid by U.S. consumers.

Bengus81

(9,397 posts)
15. He leaves out how HIM and REPUBLICANS in Congress just foisted HUGE tax increase on everyone
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:40 AM
Aug 13

First he LIED and said that China and other countries pay the tariff. When that blew up in his face he had to go with corporations will EAT the tariff.

Total 100% BULLSHIT,both of them.........

Historic NY

(39,279 posts)
20. In other words business in the US is paying and they will have to charge the consumer
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:13 AM
Aug 13

in order to stay in business.

Bengus81

(9,397 posts)
21. They pay the tariff at one of the 328 Ports of entry into the US to the US Treasury
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:20 AM
Aug 13

Corporations are NOT to absorb these massive tariffs that dipshit put on Countries. Every tariff is a tax on consumers and Donnie dip shits tariffs are huge.

popsdenver

(481 posts)
26. "Huge tax increases on everyone"
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:04 AM
Aug 13

Except the Uber Rich and Corporations........they get continuous TAX CUTS......

Hieronymus Phact

(664 posts)
16. Conservatives are programmed to obsess over the debt.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:49 AM
Aug 13

if Democrats were smart, this news would be repeated incessantly by everyone, everywhere possible.

BumRushDaShow

(160,228 posts)
17. They're not worried about it now
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:53 AM
Aug 13

since they raised the debt ceiling to cover it in their Brutal Barbaric Bill.

Hieronymus Phact

(664 posts)
32. I disagree.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 12:12 PM
Aug 13

You're right about that, They're not worried about it now.
That's why reminding them all the time is crucial.
They have been massively conditioned about it for so long, that programming can't be just turned off.
This is an opportunity for us to tap into that programming that's still there. The people who programmed it don't want that program to run right now, but they can't delete it, and they can't stop other people from running it.
So its a great time to remind them of all their hand-wringing about the debt and deficit.
At least It should be a fun exercise in forcing a little cognitive dissonance.

BumRushDaShow

(160,228 posts)
33. In the lead-up to passage of that bill
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 12:42 PM
Aug 13

a bunch did harass them about it (and the obedient so-called "fiscal conservative" (R)s did too). But the (R)s apparently snapped into line upon apparent receipt of death threats so...

The quandary though is to frame it because there is spending that we needed (healthcare, food and energy assistance, education, etc) that has been cut in order to instead have RW loons spend it on wasteful, fraudulent, and abusive things like concentration camps.

Bengus81

(9,397 posts)
23. Almost thirty years ago Clinton had a balanced budget and a surplus. He taxed the rich
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:23 AM
Aug 13

and created more millionaires than ever because of a booming economy. Then came George W. Bush and tinkle down v2.0.

angryxyouth

(297 posts)
22. Just some interesting spending facts I dug up
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:21 AM
Aug 13

Savings and loan bail out (Bush 1) 124 Billion 1980s-1990sBanking crisis of 2008 (caused by Bush 2) (Remediated by Obama)$700 Billion But all but 32 billion was paid back
Afganistan and Iraq war $2 trillion trump 1st. term tax cuts $1.7 Trillion so far

Trump’s 1st term golfing trips $102 million
So far 1st hundred days 20.7 million. As of August 1st $52 million golf trips this term.

JD Vance’s vacations???

2nd term extending tax cuts
For the Rich, no tax on social Security, overtime, tax exempt tips 9 trillion over 10 years
Maintain and upgrade nuclear arsenal $95 billion
$141 billion repair ICBM infrastructure.
Money to fix up the jet from Qatar $400 million-$1 billion
Supposedly, that money is being taken off of the money to repair our nuclear arsenal.
Cost to carry US dept because of credit downgrade about 1 trillion a year.

Military 2025 $880 Billion
China. $309 Billion
Nato countries $402 Billion
Russia. $126 Billion
And this kind of disparity has been going on forever.


Universal healthcare would save $400-$600 billion to Us citizens.

Removing the caps of payments into Social Security for the rich couldn’t make Social Security flush for the future

How much will deporting illegal immigrants cost? See the article below it is mind blowing.


https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportation

popsdenver

(481 posts)
28. Good call out !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:11 AM
Aug 13

I think the amount they quote as the "cost" of AFOne for his golf trips, and other "joy rides" only covers the cost of fuel for the plane. There are millions and millions and millions of Dollars spent directly and in-directly on each and every trip that Trump and the RepubliCONs conveniently don't mention.............

LiberalArkie

(18,944 posts)
34. But, that is before the budget director multiplies the amount of the debt by a -1 to get the true amount of the surplus
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 01:17 PM
Aug 13

Bluetus

(1,550 posts)
39. Funny how a $5Tn increase in the national debt limit got slipped into
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 04:25 PM
Aug 13

the Big Billionaire Bill and was barely mentioned.

LT Barclay

(3,104 posts)
40. The super wealthy are loving it. They looted the treasury and now for the rest of us the next step is austerity
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 04:59 PM
Aug 13

just like in Europe. And the wealthy will sit there and laugh at us as we destroy each other. Not blaming us on the left but the angry gunhumpers will want a scapegoat.

Quanto Magnus

(1,256 posts)
41. What a surprise!!!
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 06:45 PM
Aug 13

MAGAts are trying to break the country... financially, socially, functionally....

and it's working

Septua

(2,880 posts)
42. Government debt is relative
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:18 PM
Aug 13

All developed countries operate with some amount of debt. It's the debt-to-GDP ratio that puts it in a more meaningful perspective. Admittedly, that still puts the U.S. at a high level of debt but I don't know that it's at an apocalyptic level. But you don't hear the politicians talk much about debt-to-GDP ratios.

GDP by country
https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/

Debt to GDP by country
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/debt-to-gdp-ratio-by-country

U.S. Debt to GDP history
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/debt-to-gdp-ratio

thought crime

(789 posts)
43. Nothing to worry about! Until we have a Democratic President.
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 11:09 PM
Aug 13

Then suddenly, it becomes our Number One Problem.

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