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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(128,590 posts)
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 07:42 PM Aug 5

Epstein's ex, Ghislaine Maxwell, doesn't want grand jury transcripts released

Source: AP

NEW YORK (AP) — Jeffrey Epstein 's former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, wants to keep grand jury records secret in the sex trafficking case that sent her to prison, her lawyers said Tuesday as prosecutors continued urging a court to release some of those records in the criminal case-turned-political fireball.

Maxwell hasn't seen the material herself, her attorneys said — the grand jury process is conducted behind closed doors. But she opposes unsealing what her lawyers described as potentially “hearsay-laden” transcripts of grand jury testimony, which was given in secret and without her lawyers there to challenge it.

“Whatever interest the public may have in Epstein, that interest cannot justify a broad intrusion into grand jury secrecy in a case where the defendant is alive, her legal options are viable and her due process rights remain,” attorneys David O. Markus and Melissa Madrigal wrote.

Prosecutors declined to comment.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/epsteins-ex-ghislaine-maxwell-doesnt-184615986.html

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Epstein's ex, Ghislaine Maxwell, doesn't want grand jury transcripts released (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 5 OP
TDB!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 5 #1
Her attorney says she hasn't seen it. Hell, bluestarone Aug 5 #2
Virginia Giuffre's Deposition azureblue Aug 6 #46
Most people are ignorant of the evidence and testimony which convicted her, RockRaven Aug 5 #3
One victim I heard interviewed said moniss Aug 5 #9
I've seen that mentioned in several anonymous accounts over the years. Karasu Aug 5 #12
It wasn't anonymous gab13by13 Aug 6 #26
I stand corrected. But if that's the case, we really ought to be bringing it up more when Republicans try to paint her Karasu Aug 6 #48
Some of the victims have spoken out in public that Maxwell was also a rapist along with Epstein. Irish_Dem Aug 6 #28
True. But that would not be part of the grand jury testimony Wiz Imp Aug 6 #36
stupid question ClaudetteCC Aug 5 #4
the S is silent pfitz59 Aug 5 #11
Also, more like Ghee-laine n/t Random Boomer Aug 5 #18
Super Predator JustAnotherGen Aug 6 #29
I saw an interview with her brother years ago and Haggard Celine Aug 6 #39
G as in Go, or G as in Gym? ClaudetteCC Aug 6 #44
Go Haggard Celine Aug 6 #45
I say, eff you, disgusting sex pedo trafficking convicted criminal, just enjoy your comfy day camp "prison" for now... wcmagumba Aug 5 #5
He will probably pardon her, let her out and give her Secret Service protection Walleye Aug 6 #54
A. No information is good for her. B. Grand Jury info is structured for a result. underpants Aug 5 #6
I get the feeling that DOJ and her lawyers are running moniss Aug 5 #7
I couldn't sleep so I watched the Netflix biography on her. She allegedly would fondle a girls breasts or groin area .. Botany Aug 5 #8
Does anyone give a shit what Ghislaine Maxwell wants? mdbl Aug 5 #10
The fascists running the country sure as fuck do. Karasu Aug 5 #13
Yep. Vicious criminals call all the shots now. Irish_Dem Aug 6 #30
Whatever happens with this customerserviceguy Aug 5 #14
The victims may want justice so might be willing to go through it all again. Irish_Dem Aug 6 #31
All I know customerserviceguy Aug 6 #47
It's an individual thing. Irish_Dem Aug 6 #50
All I'm hoping customerserviceguy Aug 6 #51
Most women know that in a rape trial, they are the ones on trial, not the rapist. Irish_Dem Aug 6 #53
This isn't an ordinary rape trial customerserviceguy Aug 6 #56
I hope you are right. Irish_Dem Aug 6 #58
She's just concerned that the information in the Grand Jury report will Baitball Blogger Aug 5 #15
Bingo. Karasu Aug 5 #17
There was no direct testimony from anyone involved with Maxwell and Epstein before the grand jury Wiz Imp Aug 6 #42
Who couldn't see this coming. Sneederbunk Aug 5 #16
I thought the issue was with Epstein's documents FakeNoose Aug 5 #19
I don't really give a fuck what she wants Luciferous Aug 5 #20
Why is another felon even being asked such a question? live love laugh Aug 6 #21
Because criminals now have all the rights. Good people have none. Irish_Dem Aug 6 #32
from a procedural perspective... there may be a small grain of truth... Layzeebeaver Aug 6 #22
Established rules went out the window tavernier Aug 6 #35
Some questions returnee Aug 6 #43
Whatever keeps MAGA squirming lol n/t Cheezoholic Aug 6 #23
Who cares what she wants? sinkingfeeling Aug 6 #24
Ted Bundy would be jealous. twodogsbarking Aug 6 #25
That's rich UpInArms Aug 6 #27
I bet she has two different stories. One she gave to the grand jury... JohnnyRingo Aug 6 #33
Maxwell did not testify before the grand jury. Wiz Imp Aug 6 #37
No death penalty for groomer witches huh? The horrible person wants what? Does she have standing for this request? Brainfodder Aug 6 #34
Release them Abstractartist Aug 6 #38
There would be nothing in the grand jury transcripts implicating anyone besides Epstein & Maxwell. Wiz Imp Aug 6 #41
To be clear, there was no victim testimony before the grand jury. Nor did Maxwell herself testify. Wiz Imp Aug 6 #40
More likely she doesn't want her current narrative that orangepedo didn't do anything improper around her sdfernando Aug 6 #49
Trump has a made up hearsay government, so release them and let them... GreenWave Aug 6 #52
"Ex"? "Former"? maxsolomon Aug 6 #55
Gee, if this were a Democrat's GJ transcripts, most of the elected GOP would have illegally released them Scalded Nun Aug 6 #57

azureblue

(2,559 posts)
46. Virginia Giuffre's Deposition
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 10:36 AM
Aug 6

Virginia states it was Maxwell who recruited her from Mar-a-largo in 2000 (possibly 1999). It was Maxwell who trained her. Virginia thought Maxwell was the leader. She states Epstein and Maxwell were glued at the hips, abused girls together, and Maxwell abused girls on a daily basis. It states Maxwell is a liar. She also states the plane logs are incomplete as the only cover one plane (Epstein I believe had three) Ghislaine had a helicopter given to her by Epstein that she used to fly people to the island.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7010864-Virginia-Giuffre-Maxwell-Deposition/
Also
a Youtube video of "Katie Johnson's testimony, and a link to the lawsuit she filed --



https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf


Maxwell is in the thick of it, and a pedo too..

RockRaven

(17,991 posts)
3. Most people are ignorant of the evidence and testimony which convicted her,
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 07:49 PM
Aug 5

because they didn't actually pay attention to the trial on a granular level, and the grand jury testimony is more of the same.

If the grand jury testimony is made public, her monstrous actions will get a new news cycle (or several), and the resulting media furor will make it costlier for The Dotard to pardon her -- and he only cares about what it costs/benefits himself.

moniss

(8,052 posts)
9. One victim I heard interviewed said
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 08:07 PM
Aug 5

Maxwell wasn't just sex trafficking she was also taking part in the sexual acts.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
48. I stand corrected. But if that's the case, we really ought to be bringing it up more when Republicans try to paint her
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 03:26 PM
Aug 6

as some kind of victim.

Irish_Dem

(74,729 posts)
28. Some of the victims have spoken out in public that Maxwell was also a rapist along with Epstein.
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 08:39 AM
Aug 6

Wiz Imp

(7,080 posts)
36. True. But that would not be part of the grand jury testimony
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 09:10 AM
Aug 6

No victims testified before the grand jury. 4 victims did testify in the criminal trial.

Haggard Celine

(17,454 posts)
39. I saw an interview with her brother years ago and
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 09:19 AM
Aug 6

he pronounced it "Gill-un." If anyone knows how to say it, he should.

wcmagumba

(4,661 posts)
5. I say, eff you, disgusting sex pedo trafficking convicted criminal, just enjoy your comfy day camp "prison" for now...
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 07:52 PM
Aug 5

With an El Trumpo pardon on the way...the public will be lucky to see any of this info with the orange buttocks scrambling to clean it and hide whatever is left...you just know the dudes name and evidence of crimes is all over that stuff...we the people will never see any of it...dammit...

underpants

(192,940 posts)
6. A. No information is good for her. B. Grand Jury info is structured for a result.
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 07:54 PM
Aug 5

I’ve learned B over the years.

Darren Wilson beating the rap for murdering Michael Brown made that very clear.

moniss

(8,052 posts)
7. I get the feeling that DOJ and her lawyers are running
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 08:04 PM
Aug 5

a "good cop, bad cop" sort of scenario and then Maxwell will claim that all of this has "prejudiced" her appeal and then Crumb The 1st will come in with his "I had no choice but to pardon/commute because all of the turmoil was unfair to her appeal."

Botany

(75,298 posts)
8. I couldn't sleep so I watched the Netflix biography on her. She allegedly would fondle a girls breasts or groin area ..
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 08:06 PM
Aug 5

.. as Epstein was raping them and she actively forced girls working in Epstein’s sex trafficking network (Trump & Putin’s too)
to recruit other girls too. Both her testimony and or the grand jury’s testimony are just planned distractions from Trump’s paying
money to rape girls and his part in an international sex trafficking ring.

mdbl

(7,337 posts)
10. Does anyone give a shit what Ghislaine Maxwell wants?
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 08:20 PM
Aug 5

Why don't we just ask every fucking criminal in prison what they want.

customerserviceguy

(25,394 posts)
14. Whatever happens with this
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 09:03 PM
Aug 5

I just hope that it is not too difficult for the victims to bear. I don't give a shit what Maxwell wants, but I do care about these women and their feelings.

customerserviceguy

(25,394 posts)
47. All I know
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 03:18 PM
Aug 6

is that I wouldn't want the worst thing that happened to me to lead off the news every night. Some may want justice, others may want healing in a quiet way. In any case, the three ring circus that this has become has got to be trying for at least a few of them.

customerserviceguy

(25,394 posts)
51. All I'm hoping
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 04:12 PM
Aug 6

is that our side keeps respect for the victims in mind. I have absolutely no such hope for the Rethuglicans, but at least I want our side to treat the victims with as much dignity as is humanly possible.

Irish_Dem

(74,729 posts)
53. Most women know that in a rape trial, they are the ones on trial, not the rapist.
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 04:38 PM
Aug 6

Dignity and respect for the female victim is not usually important in the
American justice system.

Especially now when sexual assault is the norm thanks to Trump and his pals.

customerserviceguy

(25,394 posts)
56. This isn't an ordinary rape trial
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 05:10 PM
Aug 6

Those are traumatic enough, but they very rarely become national news, especially being reported on every single day. While we may not be able to repair the criminal justice system and the way that it treats victims, I hope that in the clamor for "dirt" on this, that our side figures out when to respect the privacy of the victims.

Irish_Dem

(74,729 posts)
58. I hope you are right.
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 05:20 PM
Aug 6

But every rape trial is painful for the victim.
Even if it is just city or state publicity.

Baitball Blogger

(50,891 posts)
15. She's just concerned that the information in the Grand Jury report will
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 09:26 PM
Aug 5

contradict the testimony she plans to give them.

Wiz Imp

(7,080 posts)
42. There was no direct testimony from anyone involved with Maxwell and Epstein before the grand jury
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 09:30 AM
Aug 6

The only witnesses were an FBI agent and an NYCPD Detective.

Sneederbunk

(16,730 posts)
16. Who couldn't see this coming.
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 09:44 PM
Aug 5

Maxwell has a legal right to not have the grand jury transcripts released so long as she has an appeal pending. TSF and his cracked legal team knew this. Their offer to release was hollow and just a delaying distraction.

FakeNoose

(38,620 posts)
19. I thought the issue was with Epstein's documents
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 10:10 PM
Aug 5

Epstein's documents, videos, photos and other records that were taken from his mansions after he was arrested (or after he died.) I don't know why Maxwell's Grand Jury testimony should be released....

Layzeebeaver

(2,033 posts)
22. from a procedural perspective... there may be a small grain of truth...
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 06:11 AM
Aug 6

I'm not a lawyer, but suspect that evidence and discovery does in fact need to follow established rules.

let's see how it all "pans out" (sorry for the mining meme).

tavernier

(13,933 posts)
35. Established rules went out the window
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 09:03 AM
Aug 6

when Rump walked through the door. Just look at the bullshit his judges, including the SCOTUS, have gotten away with since his arrival. A felon walks ii to our White House, steals boxes and boxes of classified documents, squirrels them in his private home, suddenly has close happy friendships with leaders of countries who salivate over seeing the contents of these files and are more than happy to swap with gold or fancy planes. Or kompramat. And the judges and the politicians bend over themselves to keep him happy. So I’m guessing the kompramat involved lots and lots of them as well.

returnee

(656 posts)
43. Some questions
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 09:38 AM
Aug 6

I was wondering about the merit of her filing. Then you said there are rules. If so, why the need to file anything?
Also, aren’t the trial transcripts public? Wouldn’t that tell us a lot about her criminal activity? Do we want to see the grand jury testimony to find out about others’ involvement? Or for other reasons?

JohnnyRingo

(20,159 posts)
33. I bet she has two different stories. One she gave to the grand jury...
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 08:52 AM
Aug 6

that names Trump as a frequent flyer, and the secret account she supplied to Trump's Deputy US Atty that said the Clintons were in on it but never Trump.

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
34. No death penalty for groomer witches huh? The horrible person wants what? Does she have standing for this request?
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 08:53 AM
Aug 6

I hope she gets all the cancers right after her testimony and then run over by a train twice.

Abstractartist

(333 posts)
38. Release them
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 09:18 AM
Aug 6

Since they are under concealment, and she doesn’t want them released, that’s a tell. There is stuff in there that will be very bad for everyone listed. If democrats are in there, so be it…. They will suffer as anyone of them should.

Wiz Imp

(7,080 posts)
41. There would be nothing in the grand jury transcripts implicating anyone besides Epstein & Maxwell.
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 09:27 AM
Aug 6

The only testimony came from 2 law enforcement officials and the whole purpose of grand jury testimony is to get an indictment against the person charged. There would be no reason to talk about people other than Epstein & Maxwell.

Wiz Imp

(7,080 posts)
40. To be clear, there was no victim testimony before the grand jury. Nor did Maxwell herself testify.
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 09:23 AM
Aug 6

Only 2 witnesses testified before Maxwell's grand jury. An FBI agent & a NYCPD Detective.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/grand-juries-that-indicted-epstein-and-maxwell-did-not-hear-directly-from-victims-justice-department-tells-judge#:~:text=The%20federal%20grand%20juries%20that%20indicted%20Jeffrey,unseal%20transcripts%20of%20the%20usually%20secret%20proceedings.

The Epstein grand jury heard from just one witness, an FBI agent, when it met in June and July 2019, the government disclosed. The Maxwell grand jury heard from the same FBI agent and a New York Police Department detective when it met in June and July 2020 and March 2021, according to the submission.

It isn’t unusual for law enforcement officials to be the only witnesses before grand juries, which have a limited role and don’t need to decide whether a person is guilty of a crime.

sdfernando

(5,900 posts)
49. More likely she doesn't want her current narrative that orangepedo didn't do anything improper around her
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 03:50 PM
Aug 6

to be totally outed as a huge lie.

"her legal options are viable and her due process rights remain"

Due process????? How quaint!

GreenWave

(11,568 posts)
52. Trump has a made up hearsay government, so release them and let them...
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 04:16 PM
Aug 6

LET THEM GO, LET THEM GO, LET THEM GO!

Scalded Nun

(1,494 posts)
57. Gee, if this were a Democrat's GJ transcripts, most of the elected GOP would have illegally released them
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 05:19 PM
Aug 6

If the DOJ/AG didn't do it first.

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