Epstein's ex, Ghislaine Maxwell, doesn't want grand jury transcripts released
Source: AP
NEW YORK (AP) Jeffrey Epstein 's former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, wants to keep grand jury records secret in the sex trafficking case that sent her to prison, her lawyers said Tuesday as prosecutors continued urging a court to release some of those records in the criminal case-turned-political fireball.
Maxwell hasn't seen the material herself, her attorneys said the grand jury process is conducted behind closed doors. But she opposes unsealing what her lawyers described as potentially hearsay-laden transcripts of grand jury testimony, which was given in secret and without her lawyers there to challenge it.
Whatever interest the public may have in Epstein, that interest cannot justify a broad intrusion into grand jury secrecy in a case where the defendant is alive, her legal options are viable and her due process rights remain, attorneys David O. Markus and Melissa Madrigal wrote.
Prosecutors declined to comment.
Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/epsteins-ex-ghislaine-maxwell-doesnt-184615986.html

InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,415 posts)bluestarone
(20,282 posts)She doesn't have to see. SHE LIVED IT!!
azureblue
(2,559 posts)Virginia states it was Maxwell who recruited her from Mar-a-largo in 2000 (possibly 1999). It was Maxwell who trained her. Virginia thought Maxwell was the leader. She states Epstein and Maxwell were glued at the hips, abused girls together, and Maxwell abused girls on a daily basis. It states Maxwell is a liar. She also states the plane logs are incomplete as the only cover one plane (Epstein I believe had three) Ghislaine had a helicopter given to her by Epstein that she used to fly people to the island.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7010864-Virginia-Giuffre-Maxwell-Deposition/
Also
a Youtube video of "Katie Johnson's testimony, and a link to the lawsuit she filed --
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf
Maxwell is in the thick of it, and a pedo too..
RockRaven
(17,991 posts)because they didn't actually pay attention to the trial on a granular level, and the grand jury testimony is more of the same.
If the grand jury testimony is made public, her monstrous actions will get a new news cycle (or several), and the resulting media furor will make it costlier for The Dotard to pardon her -- and he only cares about what it costs/benefits himself.
moniss
(8,052 posts)Maxwell wasn't just sex trafficking she was also taking part in the sexual acts.
Karasu
(2,003 posts)gab13by13
(29,762 posts)Karasu
(2,003 posts)as some kind of victim.
Irish_Dem
(74,729 posts)Wiz Imp
(7,080 posts)No victims testified before the grand jury. 4 victims did testify in the criminal trial.
ClaudetteCC
(105 posts)but how is her name pronounced?
I have zero patience for TV infotainment.
pfitz59
(11,846 posts)Ghi- laine
Random Boomer
(4,362 posts)JustAnotherGen
(37,036 posts)Alternative: Child Trafficker
Haggard Celine
(17,454 posts)he pronounced it "Gill-un." If anyone knows how to say it, he should.
ClaudetteCC
(105 posts)Haggard Celine
(17,454 posts)wcmagumba
(4,661 posts)With an El Trumpo pardon on the way...the public will be lucky to see any of this info with the orange buttocks scrambling to clean it and hide whatever is left...you just know the dudes name and evidence of crimes is all over that stuff...we the people will never see any of it...dammit...
Walleye
(42,445 posts)underpants
(192,940 posts)Ive learned B over the years.
Darren Wilson beating the rap for murdering Michael Brown made that very clear.
moniss
(8,052 posts)a "good cop, bad cop" sort of scenario and then Maxwell will claim that all of this has "prejudiced" her appeal and then Crumb The 1st will come in with his "I had no choice but to pardon/commute because all of the turmoil was unfair to her appeal."
Botany
(75,298 posts).. as Epstein was raping them and she actively forced girls working in Epsteins sex trafficking network (Trump & Putins too)
to recruit other girls too. Both her testimony and or the grand jurys testimony are just planned distractions from Trumps paying
money to rape girls and his part in an international sex trafficking ring.
mdbl
(7,337 posts)Why don't we just ask every fucking criminal in prison what they want.
Karasu
(2,003 posts)Irish_Dem
(74,729 posts)Good people are thrown under the bus.
customerserviceguy
(25,394 posts)I just hope that it is not too difficult for the victims to bear. I don't give a shit what Maxwell wants, but I do care about these women and their feelings.
Irish_Dem
(74,729 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,394 posts)is that I wouldn't want the worst thing that happened to me to lead off the news every night. Some may want justice, others may want healing in a quiet way. In any case, the three ring circus that this has become has got to be trying for at least a few of them.
Irish_Dem
(74,729 posts)Some can handle the trial and publicity.
Some cannot.
customerserviceguy
(25,394 posts)is that our side keeps respect for the victims in mind. I have absolutely no such hope for the Rethuglicans, but at least I want our side to treat the victims with as much dignity as is humanly possible.
Irish_Dem
(74,729 posts)Dignity and respect for the female victim is not usually important in the
American justice system.
Especially now when sexual assault is the norm thanks to Trump and his pals.
customerserviceguy
(25,394 posts)Those are traumatic enough, but they very rarely become national news, especially being reported on every single day. While we may not be able to repair the criminal justice system and the way that it treats victims, I hope that in the clamor for "dirt" on this, that our side figures out when to respect the privacy of the victims.
Irish_Dem
(74,729 posts)But every rape trial is painful for the victim.
Even if it is just city or state publicity.
Baitball Blogger
(50,891 posts)contradict the testimony she plans to give them.
Karasu
(2,003 posts)Wiz Imp
(7,080 posts)The only witnesses were an FBI agent and an NYCPD Detective.
Sneederbunk
(16,730 posts)Maxwell has a legal right to not have the grand jury transcripts released so long as she has an appeal pending. TSF and his cracked legal team knew this. Their offer to release was hollow and just a delaying distraction.
FakeNoose
(38,620 posts)Epstein's documents, videos, photos and other records that were taken from his mansions after he was arrested (or after he died.) I don't know why Maxwell's Grand Jury testimony should be released....
Luciferous
(6,494 posts)live love laugh
(15,877 posts)Irish_Dem
(74,729 posts)Layzeebeaver
(2,033 posts)I'm not a lawyer, but suspect that evidence and discovery does in fact need to follow established rules.
let's see how it all "pans out" (sorry for the mining meme).
tavernier
(13,933 posts)when Rump walked through the door. Just look at the bullshit his judges, including the SCOTUS, have gotten away with since his arrival. A felon walks ii to our White House, steals boxes and boxes of classified documents, squirrels them in his private home, suddenly has close happy friendships with leaders of countries who salivate over seeing the contents of these files and are more than happy to swap with gold or fancy planes. Or kompramat. And the judges and the politicians bend over themselves to keep him happy. So Im guessing the kompramat involved lots and lots of them as well.
returnee
(656 posts)I was wondering about the merit of her filing. Then you said there are rules. If so, why the need to file anything?
Also, arent the trial transcripts public? Wouldnt that tell us a lot about her criminal activity? Do we want to see the grand jury testimony to find out about others involvement? Or for other reasons?
Cheezoholic
(3,284 posts)sinkingfeeling
(56,322 posts)twodogsbarking
(15,723 posts)UpInArms
(53,398 posts)The convicted sexual predator wants due process
While all others can be denied
JohnnyRingo
(20,159 posts)that names Trump as a frequent flyer, and the secret account she supplied to Trump's Deputy US Atty that said the Clintons were in on it but never Trump.
Wiz Imp
(7,080 posts)Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)
I hope she gets all the cancers right after her testimony and then run over by a train twice.
Abstractartist
(333 posts)Since they are under concealment, and she doesnt want them released, thats a tell. There is stuff in there that will be very bad for everyone listed. If democrats are in there, so be it . They will suffer as anyone of them should.
Wiz Imp
(7,080 posts)The only testimony came from 2 law enforcement officials and the whole purpose of grand jury testimony is to get an indictment against the person charged. There would be no reason to talk about people other than Epstein & Maxwell.
Wiz Imp
(7,080 posts)Only 2 witnesses testified before Maxwell's grand jury. An FBI agent & a NYCPD Detective.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/grand-juries-that-indicted-epstein-and-maxwell-did-not-hear-directly-from-victims-justice-department-tells-judge#:~:text=The%20federal%20grand%20juries%20that%20indicted%20Jeffrey,unseal%20transcripts%20of%20the%20usually%20secret%20proceedings.
It isnt unusual for law enforcement officials to be the only witnesses before grand juries, which have a limited role and dont need to decide whether a person is guilty of a crime.
sdfernando
(5,900 posts)to be totally outed as a huge lie.
"her legal options are viable and her due process rights remain"
Due process????? How quaint!
GreenWave
(11,568 posts)LET THEM GO, LET THEM GO, LET THEM GO!
maxsolomon
(37,349 posts)Only because he's dead.
Scalded Nun
(1,494 posts)If the DOJ/AG didn't do it first.