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mahatmakanejeeves

(64,512 posts)
Fri May 2, 2025, 06:41 PM 16 hrs ago

Judge rules Trump executive order targeting law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional

Source: CBS News

POLITICS
Judge rules Trump executive order targeting law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional

By Melissa Quinn
May 2, 2025 / 6:33 PM EDT / CBS News

Washington -- A federal judge ruled Friday that President Trump's executive order targeting the law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional and permanently blocked the administration from enforcing it.

In a 102-page decision, U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell ruled in favor of the firm and said Mr. Trump's directive that sought to punish it sent the message that "lawyers must stick to the party line, or else."

"Using the powers of the federal government to target lawyers for their representation of clients and avowed progressive employment policies in an overt attempt to suppress and punish certain viewpoints, however, is contrary to the Constitution, which requires that the government respond to dissenting or unpopular speech or ideas with 'tolerance, not coercion,'" Howell wrote.

She found that the executive order violates the First, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments to the Constitution.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-executive-order-perkins-coie-law-firm-unconstitutional/



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Kyle Cheney‬
‪@kyledcheney.bsky.social‬
https://bsky.app/profile/kyledcheney.bsky.social/post/3lo7ultbgj52m

JUST IN: Judge HOWELL rules forcefully in favor of Perkins Coie against Trump's punitive executive order, comparing him to a Shakespearean character who famously called to "kill all the lawyers" in order to amass power.

https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2025cv0716-185

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From Chris Geidner:

https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3lo7w24lr3c2x
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Judge rules Trump executive order targeting law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves 16 hrs ago OP
There is some good news! Balatro 16 hrs ago #1
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote 16 hrs ago #2
Do we think he will obey? tblue37 2 hrs ago #30
That's nice JoseBalow 16 hrs ago #3
Well it might at least encourage some of the cowardly law firms BumRushDaShow 15 hrs ago #7
I STILL don't understand why they would do that Skittles 14 hrs ago #18
Well their "cloaks" have now been ripped off BumRushDaShow 5 hrs ago #28
Agree mamacita75 15 hrs ago #9
Judge Howell has ruled for Perkins Coie, holding that Donald Trump's executive order targeting the firm was unconstituti LetMyPeopleVote 16 hrs ago #4
Thanks for the link. NT mahatmakanejeeves 16 hrs ago #5
Here is a link to the 100+ page opinion LetMyPeopleVote 15 hrs ago #8
Between Beryl Howell and Amy Berman Jackson BumRushDaShow 16 hrs ago #6
Here is the link to the 100+ page opinion LetMyPeopleVote 15 hrs ago #10
180 pages? For a ruling of constitutionality? ancianita 14 hrs ago #16
102 pages. And the district court had a lot to address onenote 7 hrs ago #27
Righteous Ruling CitizenZero 15 hrs ago #11
Someone needs to clue me in on what he does that is NOT unconstitutional. MLWR 14 hrs ago #12
Is there a Trump executive order that ISN'T unconstitutional? dchill 14 hrs ago #13
so this begs the question....... Takket 14 hrs ago #14
Yep. They aren't scared, they're collaborators. ❤️ littlemissmartypants 14 hrs ago #17
Exactly. PSPS 12 hrs ago #24
So donald, shove it. republianmushroom 14 hrs ago #15
No Shite! Cha 13 hrs ago #19
Now the ones who capitulated will have that egg on their face and moniss 13 hrs ago #20
EVERYTHING Trump is doing is illegal Bluetus 13 hrs ago #21
It just dumbfounds me that so much time has passed and he's still here ailsagirl 9 hrs ago #25
Makes it appear that law firms that kissed Donnie Dipshits ass maxrandb 13 hrs ago #22
Another judge he'll want impeached, or arrested Bayard 13 hrs ago #23
So many of Trump's executive orders have been over turned by the courts - at what point does the court 33taw 9 hrs ago #26
That isn't how the judicial system works. onenote 3 hrs ago #29
I know. But they do stop frivolous lawsuits and these seem to be no different. 33taw 33 min ago #31

LetMyPeopleVote

(162,388 posts)
2. This makes me smile
Fri May 2, 2025, 06:49 PM
16 hrs ago

This makes me smile
https://bsky.app/profile/macfarlanenews.bsky.social/post/3lo7vc6rzic2t

Big loss in court for Trump

Federal judge rules President’s executive order targeting law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional and permanently blocked the administration from enforcing it.



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-executive-order-perkins-coie-law-firm-unconstitutional/

Washington — A federal judge ruled Friday that President Trump's executive order targeting the law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional and permanently blocked the administration from enforcing it.

In a 102-page decision, U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell ruled in favor of the firm and said Mr. Trump's directive that sought to punish it sent the message that "lawyers must stick to the party line, or else."

"Using the powers of the federal government to target lawyers for their representation of clients and avowed progressive employment policies in an overt attempt to suppress and punish certain viewpoints, however, is contrary to the Constitution, which requires that the government respond to dissenting or unpopular speech or ideas with 'tolerance, not coercion,'" Howell wrote.

She found that the executive order violates the First, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments to the Constitution.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

Skittles

(163,831 posts)
18. I STILL don't understand why they would do that
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:54 PM
14 hrs ago

WHO THE FUCK WOULD HIRE A LAW FIRM THAT CAVES INTO UNCONSTITUTIONAL THREATS??? Makes ZERO sense to me.

BumRushDaShow

(151,663 posts)
28. Well their "cloaks" have now been ripped off
Sat May 3, 2025, 05:26 AM
5 hrs ago

and they have been exposed as unreliable (which is why you are having more and more partners/members leaving them).

BumRushDaShow

(151,663 posts)
6. Between Beryl Howell and Amy Berman Jackson
Fri May 2, 2025, 06:55 PM
16 hrs ago

I don't know how they do this day in and day out, week after week, month after month, year after year.

Howell was the Chief Judge of that court until a couple years ago when James Boasberg took over that role (and that's another "familiar" name ).

ancianita

(40,398 posts)
16. 180 pages? For a ruling of constitutionality?
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:31 PM
14 hrs ago

Guess they've got to give SCOTUS a lot to run with.
Or get themselves "confused" about during oral arguments.

onenote

(45,179 posts)
27. 102 pages. And the district court had a lot to address
Sat May 3, 2025, 03:53 AM
7 hrs ago

The complaint had at least eight separate counts and the government raised multiple defenses to each count. And then the court had to address the separate elements of the test for granting injunctive relief. Not a surprise that it would be as long an opinion as it is.

Takket

(22,953 posts)
14. so this begs the question.......
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:12 PM
14 hrs ago

I saw this on bluesky:

Importantly - if any law firm decides to continue gifting expert pro bono services to protect and effectuate the admin’s violence and destruction - this ruling means they’re doing it because they want to. Trump is legally toothless to punish them. Pro bono work provided is support, not compliance.

PSPS

(14,503 posts)
24. Exactly.
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:36 PM
12 hrs ago

Willingly giving something of value in the furtherance of a crime (i.e., trump's shakedown,) is, itself, a federal felony. So these legal firms are committing federal felonies by doing this.

moniss

(7,180 posts)
20. Now the ones who capitulated will have that egg on their face and
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:03 PM
13 hrs ago

who would want to do business with lawyers that obviously won't stand up for what is right and legal?

Bluetus

(998 posts)
21. EVERYTHING Trump is doing is illegal
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:04 PM
13 hrs ago

The President has no power to shut down agencies or end programs that are properly appropriated by Congress. It has no power to deport people without due process, and straight down the line. Unfortunately, Trump has spent his whole life abusing the court system to get away with all sorts of criminal activity. It is gratifying to see so many cases decided on an expedited docket, and practically all of them are coming down against Trump.

But we also need some cases against the extortion/bribery racket Trump has been running with his inauguration scam. He's taken in about a quarter-billion in bribes already. I realize that bribery is usually a criminal offense and this DoJ won't pursue that. But I wonder if there are any civil angles or any angles to prosecute this extortion racket in state courts.

ailsagirl

(24,132 posts)
25. It just dumbfounds me that so much time has passed and he's still here
Sat May 3, 2025, 01:07 AM
9 hrs ago

I had naively thought that once the courts were involved, that the lawbreaking would be swiftly resolved.
As it is, it's feels as if we're mired in quicksand. Maybe it's just me.

maxrandb

(16,536 posts)
22. Makes it appear that law firms that kissed Donnie Dipshits ass
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:16 PM
13 hrs ago

Were prone to kissing his ass in the first place.

Bayard

(24,846 posts)
23. Another judge he'll want impeached, or arrested
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:47 PM
13 hrs ago

I just hope all that rule against him have the courage to keep thumping him.

33taw

(3,158 posts)
26. So many of Trump's executive orders have been over turned by the courts - at what point does the court
Sat May 3, 2025, 01:18 AM
9 hrs ago

enter an order stopping him from issuing executive orders because they are so lame and a total waste of the court's time.

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