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BumRushDaShow

(151,660 posts)
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:12 PM Monday

Agriculture isn't nearing trade war tariffs crisis -- 'it is a full-blown crisis already' farmers say

Source: NBC News/CNBC

April 28, 2025, 11:26 AM EDT / Source: CNBC


The clock is ticking on trade deals that the U.S. will need to strike with many nations, most notably China, to avoid what Trump’s treasury secretary has described as an “unsustainable” tariffs war. But in the U.S. farming sector, the damage has already been done and the economic crisis already begun.

U.S. agriculture exporters say the global backlash to President Donald Trump’s tariffs is punishing them, especially a decline in China buying of U.S. farm products, leading to canceled export orders and layoffs. Peter Friedmann, executive director of the Agriculture Transportation Coaliti (AgTC), a leading export trade group for farmers, tells CNBC the number of canceled purchases of U.S. agriculture should not be described as approaching a crisis. “It is a full-blown crisis already,” he said.

Data released by the U.S. Department of Agriculture on Thursday revealed China made its biggest cancellation of pork orders since 2020, halting a shipment of 12,000 tons of pork. AgTC says “massive” financial losses are already being shared by its members as a result of the trade war, based on reports it is receiving from member companies.

A wood pulp and paperboard exporter reported to the trade group the immediate cancellation or hold of 6,400 metric tons in a warehouse and a hold of 15 railcars sitting in what is known in the supply chain as “demurrage,” when fees are charged for delayed movement of goods. Meanwhile, the exporter said there are 9,000 metric tons on the water to China expected to arrive on May 13 and facing the threat of costly diversion to Chinese bonded warehouses or to other countries as Chinese buyers may refuse the cargo and abandon it at port.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/agriculture-isnt-nearing-trade-war-tariffs-crisis-full-blown-crisis-al-rcna203309

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Agriculture isn't nearing trade war tariffs crisis -- 'it is a full-blown crisis already' farmers say (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Monday OP
Really they have only themselves to blame, so I would urge them to put a sock in it, the whining is unbearable. Blues Heron Monday #1
I'm a farmer. ... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #7
I was referring to the whiners that voted for TSF and are now whining about it. I should have been more clear. Blues Heron Tuesday #12
I agree. Yet so many farmers find it hilarious that federal workers lost their jobs. travelingthrulife Tuesday #13
Oh, really? Interesting. How many farmers have you personally heard that from? ... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #19
It's fucking brutal.... democratsruletheday Tuesday #16
I'd really like to see some comprehensive statistics on the... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #20
These are agribusinesses JustAnotherGen Wednesday #21
Truck drivers only speaking English should help underpants Monday #2
They need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, and I offer them thoughts and prayers while they live with the Comfortably_Numb Monday #3
I'm a farmer. ... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #8
In a 100 days nowforever Monday #4
A functional democratic country would not have collapsed so quickly Random Boomer Monday #5
Boo Hoo you voted for him, live with it. republianmushroom Monday #6
I'm a farmer... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #9
My great grandparents who both came from Ireland also ran a farm Rhiannon12866 Tuesday #11
There were many farmers who had unique jobs during WWII. littlemissmartypants Tuesday #18
Question will you get some of the govt bail out for farmers ? republianmushroom Tuesday #15
No. To my knowledge, those bailout mostly benefit hugh corporate farms. ... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #17
It's affecting the rest of us too iemanja Tuesday #10
Very true, I'm living with it also and I didn't vote for him. republianmushroom Tuesday #14

Blues Heron

(6,844 posts)
1. Really they have only themselves to blame, so I would urge them to put a sock in it, the whining is unbearable.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:23 PM
Monday

littlemissmartypants

(27,412 posts)
7. I'm a farmer. ...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:45 AM
Tuesday

It's no fun losing your income. Especially, when you're barely making money to begin with.

Taxes and equipment leases are not cheap.

I'm hoping to not lose any more of my retirement nest egg and my social security.

I don't think people realize how many legacy farmers committed suicide every year, even before this disaster.

Democrats.

Blues Heron

(6,844 posts)
12. I was referring to the whiners that voted for TSF and are now whining about it. I should have been more clear.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 06:45 AM
Tuesday

littlemissmartypants

(27,412 posts)
19. Oh, really? Interesting. How many farmers have you personally heard that from? ...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:12 PM
Tuesday

I'm surrounded by farmers and see farmers multiple times a week and have not heard one say anything like that.

democratsruletheday

(1,293 posts)
16. It's fucking brutal....
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:14 PM
Tuesday

and all so avoidable. BTW, I understand that people on here are frustrated that so many farmers voted for the Orange POS 3 times BUT.....like you said, many farmers didn't vote for him one time and don't deserve this. We have to try and stay together, not fracture which is what he wants. The more chaos and misery then the more he consolidates power and money...it's simple.

littlemissmartypants

(27,412 posts)
20. I'd really like to see some comprehensive statistics on the...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:14 PM
Tuesday

Votes of farmers every one keeps referencing.

JustAnotherGen

(34,799 posts)
21. These are agribusinesses
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:56 PM
Wednesday

That farm to feed/export others - not Americans. MY family farms to feed Americans - no pain for us at all. We are pulling back a third in each state this year . . . I'm anticipating that people are going to be counting their pennies more. No point in growing something that is just going to rot.

Comfortably_Numb

(4,188 posts)
3. They need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, and I offer them thoughts and prayers while they live with the
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:39 PM
Monday

monster that so many of them voted for. Good job, farmers.

littlemissmartypants

(27,412 posts)
8. I'm a farmer. ...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:46 AM
Tuesday

It's no fun losing your income. Especially, when you're barely making money to begin with.

Taxes and equipment leases are not cheap.

I'm hoping to not lose any more of my retirement nest egg and my social security.

I don't think people realize how many legacy farmers committed suicide every year, even before this disaster.

Democrats.

nowforever

(497 posts)
4. In a 100 days
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:34 PM
Monday

The Orange man has managed to change the global order and turn the USA into a collapsing super power. I was fearful this could happen but thought it would take at least 6 months. Has there ever been a worse first 100 days in the history of the World. Our nation is coming apart and the cowardly GOP slink deeper into their fetid trenches. Thank God Putin is delighted so Donnie can golf with less worries.

Random Boomer

(4,311 posts)
5. A functional democratic country would not have collapsed so quickly
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:53 PM
Monday

Trump was allowed to wreak havoc by the GOP Congressional majority. They bent the knee and ceded their own power. They put the good of the country last, showing just far greed and self-interest has rotted out the core of this country.

littlemissmartypants

(27,412 posts)
9. I'm a farmer...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:50 AM
Tuesday

and I most certainly didn't vote for him. Neither did all of my farmer friends, family and neighbors.

It's no fun losing your income. Especially, when you're barely making money to begin with.

Taxes and equipment leases are not cheap.

I'm hoping to not lose any more of my retirement nest egg and my social security.

I don't think people realize how many legacy farmers committed suicide every year, even before this disaster.

Democrats.

Rhiannon12866

(233,244 posts)
11. My great grandparents who both came from Ireland also ran a farm
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:43 AM
Tuesday

They had 11 children and that generation and the succeeding ones are all lifelong Democrats. Not to mention, my grandfather was the eldest son and he and his closest brother joined together to fight in WWI. My grandfather delivered ammunition to the front on horseback and my great uncle fought at the front and was awarded the Silver Star.

littlemissmartypants

(27,412 posts)
18. There were many farmers who had unique jobs during WWII.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:10 PM
Tuesday

It really wasn't that long ago either. I'll try to make time to tell you about what my maternal grandfather did. Let's just say it earned him the nickname Dogwood Man.❤️





republianmushroom

(19,690 posts)
15. Question will you get some of the govt bail out for farmers ?
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 11:46 AM
Tuesday

I surely won't but I will help pay for It.

littlemissmartypants

(27,412 posts)
17. No. To my knowledge, those bailout mostly benefit hugh corporate farms. ...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:04 PM
Tuesday

I personally, have never taken a bailout or any FEMA money either. I have, however, had crop loss from fields flattened and flooded from storms.

I'm also a fifth generation farmer. When this land was first cleared it was full of arrowheads. I also grow timber. Income from that takes years. I have had it logged once and may not see another harvest in my lifetime.

But once you have the smell of the dirt in memory, the wildlife, birdsong, bees, butterflies and everything else ... (I could go on and on about the value of being in nature,) ...it does something to your mind and heart that's difficult to explain. It's almost a religious experience to be so connected to the land.

Many farmers are proud and independent thinkers who don't like handouts. I believe that's one reason why they're so many suicides.

Startling Reality: Rate of Suicide Among Farmers is 3.5 Times Higher Than the General Population...
https://www.agweb.com/news/business/health/startling-reality-rate-suicide-among-farmers-3-5-times-higher-general-population

iemanja

(55,893 posts)
10. It's affecting the rest of us too
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:05 AM
Tuesday

As groceries become increasingly expensive. There is no such thing as economic hardship that only affects MAGAs.

republianmushroom

(19,690 posts)
14. Very true, I'm living with it also and I didn't vote for him.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 11:43 AM
Tuesday

And I'm not going to get a bail out from the govt.

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