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BumRushDaShow

(151,663 posts)
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:16 AM Monday

Rubio reiterates Trump's view that Canada 'would be better off' as a US state

Source: USA Today

Updated April 27, 2025, 10:28 p.m. ET


As Canadians prepare to vote for prime minister in an election where President Donald Trump looms large, Secretary of State Marco Rubio reiterated the president's desire to make Canada a U.S. state.

"They'll have their elections this week," Rubio said about Canada on NBC's "Meet the Press". "They're going to have a new leader, and we'll deal with a new leadership of Canada. There are many things we work with cooperatively on Canada on, but we actually don't like the way they treated us when it comes to trade."

Pressed by "Meet the Press" host Kristen Welker whether Trump still wants to make Canada part of the United States, Rubio responded: "I think the president has stated repeatedly he thinks Canada would be better off as a state. I mean, he has said that based on what he was told by the previous prime minister, who said Canada can't survive unless it treats the U.S. unfairly in trade."

Trump began pressuring Canada on trade issues before taking office and repeatedly said the country should become a new U.S. state. He recently told Time magazine that he's serious about Canada becoming part of the United States. "I'm really not trolling," Trump told Time. "Canada is an interesting case." He complained about the U.S. trade deficit with Canada and said the United States doesn’t need Canadian products. "And I say the only way this thing really works is for Canada to become a state," he added.

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/27/trump-canada-election-prime-minister-marco-rubio/83319079007/



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Rubio reiterates Trump's view that Canada 'would be better off' as a US state (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Monday OP
Sounds like a threat to me. bucolic_frolic Monday #1
we had a two week break from this crap now they are back with the Greenland/Canada/Panama saber rattling. Blues Heron Monday #2
Little Marco is such a kiss ass. He knows what trump wants to here. brush Monday #26
It' interesting he would say that considering the reality... S/V Loner Monday #3
Trump says Rubio should do a more efficient job of "kissing my ass" BOSSHOG Monday #4
Just reciting his script as per TSF. no_hypocrisy Monday #5
robot rubio strikes again. Javaman Monday #6
My view: the USA would be better off... mwooldri Monday #7
Agree, was going to post the same thing. mwmisses4289 Monday #15
Rubio bdamomma Monday #8
Keep it up Rubio...that means Canada will buy even LESS from the US! Bengus81 Monday #9
You know, hear me out on this. AZLD4Candidate Monday #10
"13 more states, each one solidly behind gun control" speak easy Monday #19
i know. i said that in my post. AZLD4Candidate Monday #21
I always think of it as Far North Texas ... ;-) SomewhereInTheMiddle Monday #22
"Little Marco", the ventriloquist dummy. JohnnyRingo Monday #11
As is trump, putin's ventriloquist dummy. sheshe2 Monday #17
I'm surprised this SOB can talk with his mouth full. Autumn Monday #12
I still don't get this claim: Jarqui Monday #13
"I still don't get this claim:" BumRushDaShow Monday #27
If you include services (as we should), Canada is subsidizing the US. But of course trade is never a subsidy. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #32
Glad to see Rubio making sure Canadian tourists bronxiteforever Monday #14
Just throw your lying self under the bus Rubio, and save some time. You are now worthless. 58Sunliner Monday #16
Canada has a simple, clean election system and universal healthcare. PurgedVoter Monday #18
Jesus, would you morons knock it off? heckles65 Monday #20
To USA Republicans...Canadians also have those things called "Weapons" and they would use them. chouchou Monday #23
Rubio, "but we actually don't like the way they treated us when it comes to trade." Botany Monday #24
And don't forget this BumRushDaShow Monday #31
He only believes what trump allows him to believe. thought crime Monday #35
I'm not sure anybody takes this seriously. If Canada became a state, it would be a Blue state with a lot of Martin68 Monday #25
There is no "if" about it. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #30
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying there is no "if" because Canada will definitely become a state, or Martin68 Monday #33
There is zero possibility "Cnadada" will become the 51st or 52nd or any state of the US. There is no "if" about it. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #34
Could a few US states possibly become part of Canada? thought crime Monday #36
There actually is a possibility because there is so much talk these days about US Civil War 2 and martial law. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #37
Please let some of the east coast border states join! Karma13612 Monday #39
I used "if" in this case not to suggest it as a realistic possibilty, but to express an opinion on one reason it would Martin68 Monday #42
There is NO requirement that "if" refers to an unreal situation Bernardo de La Paz Monday #43
I don't quite understand your point, but I understand you are upset. But I'm not sure why your are so determined to Martin68 Monday #46
Just because there will be no 51st state does not mean I think "Canada is safe from tRump" Bernardo de La Paz Tuesday #47
You are an argumentative fellow! By "safe from Trump" I was merely agreeing with you that Canada will never become a Martin68 Wednesday #49
tRump & Rubio so stupid they think they are helping Pierre "Slogans R Us" Poilievre. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #28
No...no they wouldn't...hey little marko shut up about Canada. Nobody wants to hear it! PortTack Monday #29
Rubio losing his soul day by day roscoeroscoe Monday #38
Trump was timms139 Monday #40
He wanted to get rid of anything "Clinton" or "Obama" BumRushDaShow Monday #41
Rubio CitizenZero Monday #44
I call him Filbert. tavernier Monday #45
Rubio's views 'would be better off' if he unplugged his head from trump ass. republianmushroom Tuesday #48

Blues Heron

(6,844 posts)
2. we had a two week break from this crap now they are back with the Greenland/Canada/Panama saber rattling.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:20 AM
Monday

I wonder what else is on their evil schedule

brush

(59,718 posts)
26. Little Marco is such a kiss ass. He knows what trump wants to here.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 11:03 AM
Monday

He never said anything close to 'Canada as a 51st state' when he was a senator.

S/V Loner

(9,322 posts)
3. It' interesting he would say that considering the reality...
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:32 AM
Monday

that quite a few U.S. States are beginning to wonder if they would be better off as Canadian States.

BOSSHOG

(42,189 posts)
4. Trump says Rubio should do a more efficient job of "kissing my ass"
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:51 AM
Monday

Rubio, a man with no heart, soul, integrity, future apologizes to trump and promises to do better. Republicans can’t manage one country. Leave the good folks of Canada alone. If there is a God is he/she testing us?

Bengus81

(8,739 posts)
9. Keep it up Rubio...that means Canada will buy even LESS from the US!
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 08:39 AM
Monday

I'll bet all the Corporate asshats that voted for this regime aren't happy with your latest statement Lil' Marco or the tariffs on Canada.

AZLD4Candidate

(6,561 posts)
10. You know, hear me out on this.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 08:53 AM
Monday

I believe Democrats should ignore this bluster.

First, it will NEVER happen. Secondly, if it does, Canada should state we accept on the condition that every province becomes a state. The state of Quebec. The state of Ontario. The state of British Columbia. Even Nunavut, NW Territories, and Yukon should become states immediately.

That would give us 13 more states, each one solidly behind gun control, the right to choose, universal health care, and all the things we as Democrats want and support.

That's 26 new senators at at least 45 representatives apportioned out to the new "states." Expect those to come from the lowest EV states first, all those with between 4-6 EVs will drop to 3 immediately. That means the GOP will lose 18 Reps immediately since 9 out of the 15 states will 4-6 EVs are Republican states.

When that happens, the Senate will have 26 new Senators. Assuming that Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Alberta continue to be Republican and Quebec, and the Canadian territories go purple as they usually do in Canada, assuming 16 new Democratic senators would not be far-fetched. Taking the current make up of the Senate adding this, it would be 63 - 63.

The House would be different as there should be a huge increase in Democrats, so assuming 75% of the Canadian delegation being Democrats isn't farfetched. If they keep the 435 number, assuming re-apportionment trends, that means the Republicans will lose big time. We could literally see a House where the Democrat hold an unbreakable majority to an almost super majority. Democrats holding 60% of the 435 (meaning at least 260 seats) permanently would be possible.

Then there's the SCOTUS. We would need at least four more circuits.

Finally, the EV. If this happens, there would be no path to the WH for the Republicans. Even with TX and FL, most states with over 20 EVS (including PA and IL) are blue.

One last thing. . .this also doesn't take into consideration the mentality that the Canadians will blame the Republican Party for losing their country. Even the most conservative Canadian will vote against the Republicans en masse, just like black people voted FOR the Republican Party as a voting block until 1964 due to the thinking that the Republicans ended slavery.

With all this, I'd say "do it Donald. You don't see the political consequences internally.

Even if Canada becomes just one state, that's two more Democrats and at least 45 new Congress critters in the House taken mostly from red states.

Good luck with that.

JohnnyRingo

(19,871 posts)
11. "Little Marco", the ventriloquist dummy.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 08:56 AM
Monday

He was always a dummy, but now he's sitting on Trump's knee.

sheshe2

(91,677 posts)
17. As is trump, putin's ventriloquist dummy.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 10:11 AM
Monday

Putin holds all their strings. He just lets Donnie think that he is in charge.

Jarqui

(10,634 posts)
13. I still don't get this claim:
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 09:10 AM
Monday
"... Canada can't survive unless it treats the U.S. unfairly in trade."
.....
He complained about the U.S. trade deficit with Canada and said the United States doesn’t need Canadian products.


Trump claims the US doesn’t need Canadian products (but buys a lot of them). So if the US is that unhappy with Canada's treatment of them in trade, why not buy the products from another country or make them in the US instead?
If Canada truly can't survive unless it treats the US unfairly then don't buy from them and Canada will have mend its ways or not survive.
Consumers can conclude if they don't like shopping at Amazon, they can buy elsewhere like Walmart. Where is it in the USMCA that the US can't do that?

A very simple fix to the US-Canada trade deficit is to buy from another country - US-Canada trade deficit solved. Canada doesn't get to tell the US what to buy and from where.

Trump overhauled NAFTA with USMCA which went into force in Jan 2020
https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/united-states-mexico-canada-agreement
Chapter 31 of the agreement deals with various methods for dispute resolution.
Chapter 10 also covers Disputes.

So why isn't Trump using the dispute resolution he helped devise to address the unfairness he claims?

BumRushDaShow

(151,663 posts)
27. "I still don't get this claim:"
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 11:11 AM
Monday

It's totally fictional.

It's literally a scripted "reality show" universe that doesn't exist.

Someone "wrote it up" and their RW media, along with the rest of the stupid M$M, just regurgitates it. When it's repeated enough times, the dumbed-down masses "believe it" and now they have transformed the situation into something where the future "ends" are created, which can be had by carrying out some ludicrous, fascist style "means".

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,108 posts)
32. If you include services (as we should), Canada is subsidizing the US. But of course trade is never a subsidy. . . nt
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 11:29 AM
Monday

bronxiteforever

(10,395 posts)
14. Glad to see Rubio making sure Canadian tourists
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 09:15 AM
Monday

stay away from Florida. A Cuban American hating Cuban refugees. For that matter all Hispanic refugees. Willing to sell out his principles at a moments notice and even to humiliate the heroic Ukrainian people. He will do this all the while quoting the Bible with so little understanding of the Golden Rule that his quotes juxtaposed with his actions scramble your brain.

He is dumbest, weakest Secretary of State suitable for the dumbest timeline in modern American history.

PurgedVoter

(2,477 posts)
18. Canada has a simple, clean election system and universal healthcare.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 10:15 AM
Monday

Till we join them in the twenty-first century, joining us would be a serious step down for their citizens.

heckles65

(625 posts)
20. Jesus, would you morons knock it off?
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 10:31 AM
Monday

Canada does not want to join with us. And even if they did - ONE state? Not eleven? Talk about gerrymandering.

Marco, how much do you know about the place? Can you name five Prime Ministers who aren't named "Trudeau," off the top of your head? Can you name the one who is the most important? -Here's a clue: he has four names.

chouchou

(1,816 posts)
23. To USA Republicans...Canadians also have those things called "Weapons" and they would use them.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 10:40 AM
Monday

Botany

(73,984 posts)
24. Rubio, "but we actually don't like the way they treated us when it comes to trade."
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 10:42 AM
Monday

Like North Dakota? N.D. sold 6 billion $s worth of goods to Canada and bought
5.3 billion dollars of Canadian goods on the flip side.

Like the Detroit/Windsor metro area that does > 10 billion dollars of trade per year?
Not counting the paychecks from auto workers and related industries who work on
both sides of the border.

Or the Hydroelectric power that the Bonneville Power Authority sends to B.C. along
with all the electricity the N.E. gets from Canada.

Or all the dimensional wood we get from the Douglas Fir trees in B.C. you know
home builders and contractors.

Or all the citrus fruit and other produce we ship to Canada.


I wonder if Rubio even believes what he is saying?

thought crime

(188 posts)
35. He only believes what trump allows him to believe.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 12:07 PM
Monday

Like all vichy republicans, Rubio “believes” what he is told to believe, says what he’s told to say, and thinks what he’s told to think. In truth, Rubio exists only to serve trump.

Martin68

(25,614 posts)
25. I'm not sure anybody takes this seriously. If Canada became a state, it would be a Blue state with a lot of
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 10:50 AM
Monday

Congressional representatives, given the population.

Martin68

(25,614 posts)
33. I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying there is no "if" because Canada will definitely become a state, or
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 11:50 AM
Monday

Last edited Mon Apr 28, 2025, 02:34 PM - Edit history (1)

because Canada definitely won't become a state? In either case, my post pointed out that the idea of Canada becoming a state is absurd if only because Republicans would never countenance a new Democratic majority.

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,108 posts)
34. There is zero possibility "Cnadada" will become the 51st or 52nd or any state of the US. There is no "if" about it. . nt
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 11:51 AM
Monday

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,108 posts)
37. There actually is a possibility because there is so much talk these days about US Civil War 2 and martial law. . .nt
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 12:19 PM
Monday

Karma13612

(4,771 posts)
39. Please let some of the east coast border states join!
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 01:46 PM
Monday

I CAN see Canada when I’m up in Massena NY shopping! And I only live about 40 minutes away in the Adirondaks! New Yorkers use the Northway all the time for going up to Montreal.
And we have to include states like Vermont as well.



Martin68

(25,614 posts)
42. I used "if" in this case not to suggest it as a realistic possibilty, but to express an opinion on one reason it would
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 02:33 PM
Monday

never happen. Perhaps you are not familiar with the use of the word "if" as a subjunctive, which describes an unreal situation.

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,108 posts)
43. There is NO requirement that "if" refers to an unreal situation
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 02:39 PM
Monday

If tRump fell dead there would be much rejoicing.

tRump falling dead from a heart attack is a very real possibility given his weight, his diet and his anger. That there would be much rejoicing is surely true and definitely not unreal.

Perhaps you are not familiar with the use of the word "if", which describes a hypothetical situation. Hypothetical does not mean unreal.

When I say "there is no if" I mean the hypothetical IS in this case unreal.

Martin68

(25,614 posts)
46. I don't quite understand your point, but I understand you are upset. But I'm not sure why your are so determined to
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 10:13 PM
Monday

misunderstand. Perhaps you think you are the only person who believes Canada is safe from Trump.

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,108 posts)
47. Just because there will be no 51st state does not mean I think "Canada is safe from tRump"
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:38 PM
Tuesday

Just for you: Canada is not safe from tRump. He has already done damage and will probably do more. Canada is not safe from tRump.

You posed an "if" with a hypothetical (51st state), and I said the hypothetical (51st state) is an impossibility, hence there is no "if" because the hypothetical premise is impossible (the "if" statement is meaningless). It is simple to understand that logic.

Canada is not safe from tRump and there will be no 51st state.

Martin68

(25,614 posts)
49. You are an argumentative fellow! By "safe from Trump" I was merely agreeing with you that Canada will never become a
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 12:37 PM
Wednesday

state. But if picking fights with people who agree with you makes you feel better, go ahead.

timms139

(250 posts)
40. Trump was
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 01:56 PM
Monday

the one who wrote and signed the trade agreement his first term . If it was so bad why did he agree to it then , because everything he does is spur of the moment bad .

BumRushDaShow

(151,663 posts)
41. He wanted to get rid of anything "Clinton" or "Obama"
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 02:22 PM
Monday

and NAFTA was a Clinton thing (that many, even on DU, were not fond of).

But that was an era when he was obsessed over "CHIIIIIiiiiiiiiinaaaaaaaahhhhh", so had "his people" re-do what was NAFTA (with the expectation of Mexico "paying for the wall" ) while he engaged in a trade war with China that he lost.

This time, he has pretty much blown up his first term's treaty but there is no replacement... not even "concepts of a treaty".

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
44. Rubio
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:04 PM
Monday

Rubio was halfway sane and intelligent for a Republican Senator. He sold his soul to become Trump's Secretary of State. Now he is just a parrot that repeats Trump's bizarre and dangerous foreign policy positions. Rubio has turned into a traitor to democracy and another Trump sycophant.

tavernier

(13,656 posts)
45. I call him Filbert.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 09:15 PM
Monday

For some reason the shape of his head looks like a hazelnut to me. Makes me laugh every time I see him. Yup, Little Filbert. A nut through and through.

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