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BumRushDaShow

(151,663 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:21 PM Apr 25

'Vaguely Threatening': Federal Prosecutor Queries Leading Medical Journal

Source: New York Times

April 25, 2025, 1:37 p.m. ET


A federal prosecutor in Washington has contacted The New England Journal of Medicine, considered the world’s most prestigious medical journal, with questions that suggested without evidence that it was biased against certain views and influenced by external pressures. Dr. Eric Rubin, the editor in chief of N.E.J.M., described the letter as “vaguely threatening” in an interview with The New York Times. At least three other journals have received similar letters from Edward Martin Jr., a Republican activist serving as interim U.S. attorney in Washington. Mr. Martin has been criticized for using his office to target opponents of the administration.

His letters accused the publications of being “partisans in various scientific debates” and asked a series of accusatory questions about bias and the selection of research articles. Do they accept submissions from scientists with “competing viewpoints”? What do they do if the authors whose work they published “may have misled their readers”? Are they transparent about influence from “supporters, funders, advertisers and others”? News of the letter to N.E.J.M. was reported earlier by STAT, a health news outlet.

Mr. Martin also asked about the role of the National Institutes of Health, which funds some of the research the journals publish, and the agency’s role “in the development of submitted articles.” Amanda Shanor, a First Amendment expert at the University of Pennsylvania, said the information published in reputable medical journals like N.E.J.M. is broadly protected by the Constitution.

In most cases, journals have the same robust rights that apply to newspapers — the strongest the Constitution provides, she added. “There is no basis to say that anything other than the most stringent First Amendment protections apply to medical journals,” she said. “It appears aimed at creating a type of fear and chill that will have effects on people’s expression — that’s a constitutional concern.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/25/health/nejm-prosecutor-letter.html

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'Vaguely Threatening': Federal Prosecutor Queries Leading Medical Journal (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 25 OP
The Trump M.O. jayschool2013 Apr 25 #1
These people are out of control... yellow dahlia Apr 25 #2
This orangecrush Saturday #16
Apparently they think MuseRider Apr 25 #3
And there it is!!! "...letters from Edward Martin Jr." Grins Apr 25 #4
"He used to work for Phyllis Schfly's Reich-wing Eagle Forum." BumRushDaShow Apr 25 #5
She and Anita Bryant were repulsive toilet scum wolfie001 Apr 25 #10
They were the loons before some of the current set of loons were born BumRushDaShow Apr 25 #11
"declined to comment on whether Mr. Kennedy had any involvement with the letters" muriel_volestrangler Apr 25 #6
Lots of little demons running around going "solo" BumRushDaShow Apr 25 #7
Threatened? By a DUer, host, or admin? muriel_volestrangler Apr 25 #8
DUer BumRushDaShow Apr 25 #9
K&R Solly Mack Apr 25 #12
I see Schlump's cretinous toady Ed Martin doesn't have a clue how refereed journals decide what articles to publish. ShazzieB Saturday #13
Fucking fascist loons. Scientific "debates" (if you want to call them that) aren't fucking "partisan." They're based on Karasu Saturday #14
Dear Trump "administration" orangecrush Saturday #15
Repugs hate everyone smarter than them - Nigrum Cattus Saturday #17
OK, let me get this straight lonely bird Saturday #18

MuseRider

(34,607 posts)
3. Apparently they think
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:04 PM
Apr 25

everyone else is just like them.

Have ANY of them ever done research or worked on a project to investigate to move things forward for the good of everyone?

WE ARE NOT THEM. They need to be brought to the thoughts of doing good for all not just for their own egos.

Nothing is perfect but damn, nobody can do anything anymore without scrutiny of the research, based on the ideology of one party.

Grins

(8,320 posts)
4. And there it is!!! "...letters from Edward Martin Jr."
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:06 PM
Apr 25

Eddie is the Acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, the only AG tasked with federal crimes AND local crime. He has ZERO purview over events in other federal jurisdictions. Takin’ a wild guess that the NEW ENGLAND Journal of Medicine is - in New England.

Fun fact: He used to work for Phyllis Schfly’s Reich-wing Eagle Forum.. Where the Reich-wing crazy never rests.

BumRushDaShow

(151,663 posts)
5. "He used to work for Phyllis Schfly's Reich-wing Eagle Forum."
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:09 PM
Apr 25

Schlafly is definitely a bat-outta-hell blast from the past.

wolfie001

(4,805 posts)
10. She and Anita Bryant were repulsive toilet scum
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:20 PM
Apr 25

So glad both are dead. I celebrated when I heard of both their croakings.

BumRushDaShow

(151,663 posts)
11. They were the loons before some of the current set of loons were born
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:28 PM
Apr 25

Now they are all like that.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,523 posts)
6. "declined to comment on whether Mr. Kennedy had any involvement with the letters"
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:15 PM
Apr 25
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the nation’s health secretary, singled out N.E.J.M in an interview with the “Dr. Hyman Show” podcast last year as an example of a medical journal that has participated in “lying to the public” and “retracting the real science.”

Andrew Nixon, a spokesman for the Health and Human Services Department, declined to comment on whether Mr. Kennedy had any involvement with the letters.

In the interview, Mr. Kennedy said he would seek to prosecute medical journals under federal anti-corruption laws.

“I’m going to litigate against you under the racketeering laws, under the general tort laws,” he said. “I’m going to find a way to sue you unless you come up with a plan right now to show how you’re going to start publishing real science.”

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, the new director of N.I.H., has vigorously criticized the leadership of scientific journals. Recently he co-founded a new journal as an alternative to traditional scientific publishing. It has published contrarian views on Covid.

https://archive.is/RMgsG
(non-paywall archive of NYT article)
It's not just Martin taking aim at anything he perceives as non-MAGA; the vile appointments Trump has made have their own vendettas to pursue.

BumRushDaShow

(151,663 posts)
7. Lots of little demons running around going "solo"
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:26 PM
Apr 25

and feeding their power-tripping egos.

(I'm all out of NYT gift links for the month and was threatened the last time I used an archive link)

muriel_volestrangler

(103,523 posts)
8. Threatened? By a DUer, host, or admin?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:36 PM
Apr 25

If it really may get DU into trouble, I'll stop using them (I don't that often, I just thought since I wanted to quote for what seemed an important part, I wanted people to see context). But if it was just a bog-standard DUer, I'll argue the point with them if they object.

BumRushDaShow

(151,663 posts)
9. DUer
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:21 PM
Apr 25

I used the archive.ph (and variants) which are basically screenshot images of these sites similar to the Wayback Machine. I know there have been threads refuting those who have any issues but there are some hills that I don't feel like dying on. I sub to a bunch of sites - including at least 3 that offer gift links, so I just use those (unfortunately Bloomberg limits it to 5 a month, but the others allow 10 )

ShazzieB

(20,440 posts)
13. I see Schlump's cretinous toady Ed Martin doesn't have a clue how refereed journals decide what articles to publish.
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 01:23 AM
Saturday

But since knowing stuff has never been a prequisite for holding a position in the Schlump administration, I guess there's no reason why he should know anything about that!

Karasu

(1,036 posts)
14. Fucking fascist loons. Scientific "debates" (if you want to call them that) aren't fucking "partisan." They're based on
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 05:19 AM
Saturday

differing interpretations of data. Something that doesn't exist in the conservative mind, where literally everything has been reduced to a matter of "opinion" as they try to legitimize their anti-science quackery and normalize revisiting every single fucking settled scientific finding in the history of mankind--from mainstreaming anti-vaxxers after 70 years of them rightfully being considered nutjobs to fucking weather manipulation. They're all nothing but mindless contrarians and contribute absolutely nothing of value to any kind of intellectual discourse.

lonely bird

(2,280 posts)
18. OK, let me get this straight
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 08:03 PM
Saturday

MAGAts scream about META monitoring Facebook for disinformation so META stops because “that hurts conservatives” and is censorship.

MAGAts now want to censor the NEJM because MAGAt pseudo-science should be included.

What the actual fuck is wrong with these people?

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