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speak easy

(11,435 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:47 AM Apr 24

China tells US to 'cancel all unilateral tariffs' if it wants talks

Source: Financial Times

Beijing has called on the US to "completely cancel all unilateral tariff measures" if it wants trade talks, in some of China's strongest comments yet on the impasse between the world's two economic superpowers.

Beijing on Thursday also said there were "currently no economic and trade negotiations between China and the United States", despite recent signs of softening on dispute from Washington. US Treasury secretary Scott Bessent has said in recent days that the trade war is "not sustainable" and "there would have to be a de-escalation by both sides".

"The unilateral tariff measures were initiated by the US," said He Yadong, a Chinese commerce ministry spokesperson. "If the US truly wants to solve the problem, it should completely cancel all unilateral tariff measures against China and find a way to resolve differences through equal dialogue."


Read more: https://www.ft.com/content/3e076fb5-3988-4e21-9119-3fc637afebb8



Hardball.
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China tells US to 'cancel all unilateral tariffs' if it wants talks (Original Post) speak easy Apr 24 OP
Holy Cow! lamp_shade Apr 24 #1
This: "Heavens to Murgatroyd! Exit stage left!" wolfie001 Apr 24 #8
oh, goodness, haven't heard or used that phrase in ages! mwmisses4289 Apr 24 #10
Boomer Humor!!! wolfie001 Apr 24 #12
I don't think I have ever seen the word 'murgatroyd' spelled out. travelingthrulife Apr 24 #27
My mother would say "Heavens to Betsy" lamp_shade Apr 24 #29
Betsy was a southern name for a gun IbogaProject Apr 24 #39
Here it is MonteSS Apr 24 #36
Forgot about that. I used to say that all the time, lol! nt Tadpole Raisin Apr 24 #52
You are making me feel old Bluestocking Apr 24 #55
Glad I made it to 65! wolfie001 Apr 24 #57
Love it! oswaldactedalone Apr 24 #69
lol wolfie001 Apr 24 #70
Only thing they could do. Scrivener7 Apr 24 #2
And then Miss Piggy came out and threw cold water on that 2 hours later wolfie001 Apr 24 #6
Yep. As they've done, what? 5 times in two months? It's like Groundhog Day. Scrivener7 Apr 24 #7
I'm thinking they have a buy/sell stocks and bit coin office in the West Wing just manipulating 24/7/365 wolfie001 Apr 24 #11
It was likely the plan from the beginning ... Auggie Apr 24 #17
Ol' Yam Tits wolfie001 Apr 24 #47
Saw it here a few days ago Auggie Apr 24 #48
Maybe they should try "grow up kraznov" SheltieLover Apr 24 #3
China says "Fuck You!" to the insane Turd. Tarzanrock Apr 24 #4
I thought Fatso Trump "Held all the cards!" wolfie001 Apr 24 #5
Demented Donny has cards - the cards have no value rurallib Apr 24 #18
Talking head on Stephanie Ruhle described trumps cards as... Wounded Bear Apr 24 #33
Hard Ball xuplate Apr 24 #9
Or "The Art of the Deal." Botany Apr 24 #13
Xi is playing Art of Get Real Attilatheblond Apr 24 #63
Lucille Tarzanrock Apr 24 #14
They have the cards, he doesn't. dreamland Apr 24 #15
They are just stealing money with 'pump and dump' stock tactics.. travelingthrulife Apr 24 #30
President Trump says tariffs on China will 'come down substantially' Botany Apr 24 #16
Headline will read... Hornedfrog2000 Apr 24 #19
That's right Stinky. Bend over and take it. Ray Bruns Apr 24 #20
Trump now saying 4catsmom Apr 24 #21
CHINA OWNS TRUMP!! Canada Kid Apr 24 #22
Agreed! Justice matters. Apr 24 #58
Krasnov, you really stepped into it! And you made the same mistake as last time (only worse) Wonder Why Apr 24 #23
Good angrychair Apr 24 #24
That's the way to deal with a bully radical noodle Apr 24 #25
But Trump and his propaganda unit have suggested they are close to a deal! Don't tell me that is BS! Doodley Apr 24 #26
Fat Nixon thought he was going to bully China into handing over their lunch money. Ocelot II Apr 24 #28
The way all this is going I've been calling him Fat Hoover........... Bengus81 Apr 24 #51
When It Happens MissouriDem47 Apr 25 #72
but didn't the sociopath say they were talking to China? Hmmm, someone's lying. JohnSJ Apr 24 #31
Sad to say, but I'll believe the Chinese before I believe trump... Wounded Bear Apr 24 #35
and that is the sad state of affairs we are in, where we cannot tell when the president is lying or JohnSJ Apr 24 #38
I've found that if I assume trump is lying, I'm usually right...nt Wounded Bear Apr 24 #41
I agree. JohnSJ Apr 24 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author JohnSJ Apr 24 #44
Yep, just yesterday Beachnutt Apr 24 #37
There used to be a game show called "To Tell The Truth". I guess it should be brought back JohnSJ Apr 24 #40
yup and just this morning before this news, they claimed they were close to a deal. Javaman Apr 24 #64
The orange genius screwed himself Beachnutt Apr 24 #32
China knows hardball. BlueMTexpat Apr 24 #34
The only way to deal with this Scalded Nun Apr 24 #42
The russian agent orange blinked first and now china has him by his tiny balls. nt ImNotGod Apr 24 #45
Looks like Trump put China in the driver's seat .. Bo Zarts Apr 24 #46
The orange Mussolini didn't see this coming. republianmushroom Apr 24 #49
I mean...did Trump think China was going to fold like those law firms and Media?? Bengus81 Apr 24 #50
Among the reasons he loves tariffs is that he figures he can spin a victory out of anything unblock Apr 24 #54
"he can only bully republicans in congress" speak easy Apr 24 #56
So trump can't bully China, can't bully Ukraine, etc. he can only bully republicans in JohnSJ Apr 24 #53
CTRL - ALT - DEL : RESET ToxMarz Apr 24 #59
China is cutting the legs out from under Trump's market manipulation WSHazel Apr 24 #60
This insulting, arrogant shitshow is just fucking embarrassing. And dangerous for our well-being now and in future. n/t Evolve Dammit Apr 24 #61
Is China suggesting they would remove some of its tariffs in return ? MichMan Apr 24 #62
tomorrow's stock market could a be a very dark day. nt Javaman Apr 24 #65
All this chaos makes me feel like our country is going to collapse before the year is out kimbutgar Apr 24 #66
China just let Trump know Deminpenn Apr 24 #67
Needless to say, this never would have happened if Kamala Harris was President thought crime Apr 24 #68
China's not interested in giving him a fig leaf of face-saving. Good for them. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 24 #71

mwmisses4289

(982 posts)
10. oh, goodness, haven't heard or used that phrase in ages!
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:42 AM
Apr 24

I think I need to dust it off and start using it more often. Thanks for the reminder, lol. 😃

IbogaProject

(4,333 posts)
39. Betsy was a southern name for a gun
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:27 AM
Apr 24
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/heavens-to-betsy.html

But I only heard that as I know a Betsy. It is a southern thing and while predating it was in use during the civil war.

Scrivener7

(55,539 posts)
2. Only thing they could do.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:53 AM
Apr 24

Financial people are vaunted in our culture as smart, business-savvy people. But those fools were buying again on yesterday's non-news where Mump said there was some mitigation happening.

It shows they're dumber than mud fences.

wolfie001

(4,805 posts)
6. And then Miss Piggy came out and threw cold water on that 2 hours later
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:31 AM
Apr 24

What a shitshow from the "My uncle went to MIT" guy.

wolfie001

(4,805 posts)
11. I'm thinking they have a buy/sell stocks and bit coin office in the West Wing just manipulating 24/7/365
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:43 AM
Apr 24

At this point

Auggie

(32,253 posts)
17. It was likely the plan from the beginning ...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:13 AM
Apr 24

Ol' Yam Tits might cave, but he'll never admit as much -- he'll say he negotiated a better deal without having achieved anything except making his fellow Kleptocrats even wealthier.

Tarzanrock

(774 posts)
4. China says "Fuck You!" to the insane Turd.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:23 AM
Apr 24

Better act quick, despicable Turd, before you are ignominiously forced to "surrender" on the deck of a Chinese warship in Shanghai harbor.

Wounded Bear

(61,821 posts)
33. Talking head on Stephanie Ruhle described trumps cards as...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:18 AM
Apr 24

2, 3, 4, 5, 7 in mismatched suits.

Tarzanrock

(774 posts)
14. Lucille
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:54 AM
Apr 24

… "You picked a fine time to leave me, Lucille
With four hungry children and crops in the field
I've had some bad times, lived through some sad times
But this time the hurtin' won't heal
You picked a fine time to leave me, Lucille

This is for all you Republican Nazi assholes who voted for the Turd. Enjoy the economic
hardship you voted for in the election.

dreamland

(1,099 posts)
15. They have the cards, he doesn't.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:56 AM
Apr 24

A bully that gets hit back twice as hard. This shit show doesn't have the smarts to run a country, it's just putting on a play for them.

travelingthrulife

(2,171 posts)
30. They are just stealing money with 'pump and dump' stock tactics..
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:03 AM
Apr 24

All of them should be in jail for doing this to us.

Hornedfrog2000

(155 posts)
19. Headline will read...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:23 AM
Apr 24

Trump gives China opportunity to make deal.

As he looks weak again and drops the whole tariff thing except against canada, ukraine, our allies, etc. Mission accomplished yet again. He gets some billion dollar kickback and americans lose again as he sell more of our nations power. We are weaker than we have been in probably 120 years.

Ray Bruns

(5,164 posts)
20. That's right Stinky. Bend over and take it.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:34 AM
Apr 24

“The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed”

Confucius

4catsmom

(635 posts)
21. Trump now saying
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:37 AM
Apr 24

he's going to go easy on China when in truth, China gave him a swirlie in the gym bathroom. But the cult will believe him.

Canada Kid

(115 posts)
22. CHINA OWNS TRUMP!!
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:38 AM
Apr 24

China told Trump to fuck off...period. Home Depot, Target, Walmart, and a whole bunch of others told Trump to fuck off...period. The entire American economy runs on products originating from China. If those products no longer comes in from China...that's it. America makes virtually nothing in comparison to what they bring in. No products, no sales, no economy, no country...period. So fuck off with all your stupid tariffs, fuck off with all your stupid policies, fuck off with all your devastating disemboweling of government departments that cripple the American people's ability to live comfortably and safely. in other words...FUCK OFF!

Justice matters.

(8,329 posts)
58. Agreed!
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:12 PM
Apr 24


Soviet's empty shelves have been forgotten by the absolute morons who voted for the bankrupted convicted felon...

Wonder Why

(5,590 posts)
23. Krasnov, you really stepped into it! And you made the same mistake as last time (only worse)
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:39 AM
Apr 24

because you tried to take on the world all at once including allies. That left you no friends to support your position.

angrychair

(10,571 posts)
24. Good
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:50 AM
Apr 24

I'm not sure an economically dominant China is in the best interest of anyone but the dice is already been rolled on all this and it can't be any worse than the economic terrorism we've used to manipulate the world economy.

Doodley

(10,827 posts)
26. But Trump and his propaganda unit have suggested they are close to a deal! Don't tell me that is BS!
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:01 AM
Apr 24

Ocelot II

(124,499 posts)
28. Fat Nixon thought he was going to bully China into handing over their lunch money.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:01 AM
Apr 24

Instead, China pantsed him, stuffed him in his locker and stole his lunch money.

Bengus81

(8,739 posts)
51. The way all this is going I've been calling him Fat Hoover...........
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:31 PM
Apr 24

Keep fucking things up Trump and we'll see GD v.2.

JohnSJ

(98,506 posts)
38. and that is the sad state of affairs we are in, where we cannot tell when the president is lying or
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:26 AM
Apr 24

telling the truth.

Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #41)

JohnSJ

(98,506 posts)
40. There used to be a game show called "To Tell The Truth". I guess it should be brought back
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:28 AM
Apr 24

with this clown in the WH.



Javaman

(63,735 posts)
64. yup and just this morning before this news, they claimed they were close to a deal.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 04:59 PM
Apr 24

more speaking out of their ass and hoping that things will magically work out.

morons.

Beachnutt

(8,689 posts)
32. The orange genius screwed himself
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:15 AM
Apr 24

with this hairbrained tariff idea.
World leaders despise him so when he announced his tariff scheme they decided it was their chance to let him hang himself.
If they just hold the line and let the US shelves go bare for a couple of weeks he will be thrown out of office and possibly face more charges.
He started it and now they will finish him. Hopefully.

Scalded Nun

(1,395 posts)
42. The only way to deal with this
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:33 AM
Apr 24

Bully pushes, you blacken his eye. You do it in public. You control the narrative and take away the ability for the bully to fabricate a story as to what happened.

Perfect!

Bo Zarts

(25,982 posts)
46. Looks like Trump put China in the driver's seat ..
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:47 AM
Apr 24
?


Way to go shit-for-brains. What a pathetic loser. Everything Trump touches dies. Putin must be proud.

Bengus81

(8,739 posts)
50. I mean...did Trump think China was going to fold like those law firms and Media??
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:30 PM
Apr 24

You've proved AGAIN what a dipshit you are Trump. China owns YOU asshat,not the other way around.

But hell...keep playing the tariff war game for you sick, demented personality. I don't really care......

unblock

(55,054 posts)
54. Among the reasons he loves tariffs is that he figures he can spin a victory out of anything
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:39 PM
Apr 24

He can pick a fight with some other country, then make a deal where we make $4 worth of various concessions in exchange for $1 worth of things he wanted. Terrible deal.

But he can then go to the media and claim victory for the $1 stuff we got. And just ignore the confessions (or call that 'fake news') and strut around as a cosplay master negotiator.

China's not playing into his game for the moment, because they want $8 or $12 worth of concessions for every dollar the concede,, but I expect that's the way this will all be resolved eventually. With a terrible deal for America while Donnie nevertheless claims victory.

speak easy

(11,435 posts)
56. "he can only bully republicans in congress"
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:47 PM
Apr 24

easy marks. all performative. they don't believe in anything now, if they ever did.
“It Was All a Lie” - Stuart Stevens.

JohnSJ

(98,506 posts)
53. So trump can't bully China, can't bully Ukraine, etc. he can only bully republicans in
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:36 PM
Apr 24

congress, some new organizations, and some law firms it looks like.


WSHazel

(376 posts)
60. China is cutting the legs out from under Trump's market manipulation
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 02:07 PM
Apr 24

If Trump and his minions' primary activity is to manipulate markets for the gain of themselves and their supporters, then making it more difficult to do that is a way for China to hit Trump where it hurts. There is no need to read tea leaves of some closed door meeting Bessent had with donors, if the tariffs are not unilaterally being cut, then there is no pending deal with China.

Evolve Dammit

(20,547 posts)
61. This insulting, arrogant shitshow is just fucking embarrassing. And dangerous for our well-being now and in future. n/t
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 02:42 PM
Apr 24

kimbutgar

(24,971 posts)
66. All this chaos makes me feel like our country is going to collapse before the year is out
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:31 PM
Apr 24

And the supply train will be so disrupted it will be hard to repair and get back the trust of other nations we trade with!

The orange Hitler is so demented and he has surrounded himself with so many yes people who don’t know how things really work for the American people !

And I hope I’m wrong but chaos has a way of catching up to people like those in the magaloon administration..

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