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BumRushDaShow

(151,663 posts)
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:23 PM Apr 23

Trump administration looking at $5,000 'baby bonus' to incentivize public to have more children

Source: ABC News

April 23, 2025, 1:59 PM


The White House has been fielding proposals aimed at persuading people to marry and have children, an effort being pushed by outside groups focused on increasing the nation's birth rate after years of decline.

One such proposal that has been pitched to White House advisers is a $5,000 "baby bonus" to every American mother after she gives birth. "Sounds like a good idea to me," President Donald Trump said Tuesday when asked about a $5,000 incentive for new mothers.

When asked by ABC News about the proposals the administration has been fielding, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said the president is "proudly implementing policies to uplift American families." "The president wants America to be a country where all children can safely grow up and achieve the American dream. As a mother myself, I am proud to work for a president who is taking significant action to leave a better country for the next generation," Leavitt said.

Sources cautioned that while advisers are considering the ideas, Trump hasn't made a final decision on any of the proposals. A White House official pointed ABC News to the policies Trump has taken so far to help families, specifically citing his executive order aimed at increasing access and affordability for in vitro fertilization, or IVF. The official also cautioned against linking outside proposals to the White House.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-administration-5000-baby-bonus-incentivize-public-children/story?id=121094707



Not said is that they only want white babies because they are certainly removing the brown ones.

And that won't even cover a day in the hospital (which is about how long a woman is kept before being kicked out). And once the baby is here, they drop assistance for anything and everything that would support the family - paid family leave (see the idiocy in Congress fighting against proxy voting for pregnant members), follow-up gynecological and pediatric care, childcare, EITC expansion, (non-voucher) adequate funding for schools, etc.
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Trump administration looking at $5,000 'baby bonus' to incentivize public to have more children (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 23 OP
Do they know how much it costs to raise a kid? C_U_L8R Apr 23 #1
Apparently not................. Lovie777 Apr 23 #15
I've seen around $250,000 to raise a kid and send them through college. erronis Apr 23 #29
No, it's around $350,000 to get through age 18; $1 million to get through college. SunSeeker Apr 23 #39
Well, my daughters (in the 80s) were a lot less expensive. erronis Apr 23 #40
That's because during the past 35 years, the real-dollar cost of college has increased by 1,000%. SunSeeker Apr 23 #43
$19,444 per year to 18?? LOL! Expensive yes but not $20K per year. Bengus81 Apr 24 #80
daycare costs $2400/month here Oliver Bolliver Butt Apr 24 #82
People who have not raised a child in the last 10 years have no clue what the costs are. SunSeeker Apr 24 #92
Are you counting the cost of healthcare, and birth, of that 1 year old? SunSeeker Apr 24 #91
It would only increase births for dimwit parents who can't figure out diddlysquat as you say. Not a great set. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 23 #62
Don't you see, that's exactly what they want. More dimwitted stupid repuq voters! Enter stage left Apr 23 #67
I just paid my taxes and I don't want any of it to no_hypocrisy Apr 23 #2
+ add that $5000 DOGE check... ultralite001 Apr 23 #3
Try BonnieJW Apr 23 #4
So that $5,000 claudette Apr 23 #5
So that $5,000 MIGHT cover prenatal care and the hospital bill Ponietz Apr 23 #24
👍 claudette Apr 23 #32
Without insurance, the average cost in 2023 for a vaginal delivery with no complications was $28,655. SunSeeker Apr 23 #41
I realized after I posted that $5K would only cover the prenatal care -- thanks for the fact check Ponietz Apr 24 #88
It'll pay for his MAGA morons..... SergeStorms Apr 24 #98
More insulting nonsense from unserious people in charge at a serious moment,.., Moostache Apr 23 #6
We need to create more Brown Shirts & I'll give $5,000 when you do ... aggiesal Apr 23 #7
...AND by "public" they mean "Whites Only" FailureToCommunicate Apr 23 #8
They want slaves not children LucasD Apr 23 #9
Here's five grand to help pay for your quater million dollar delivery fee. twodogsbarking Apr 23 #10
In THIS country? NOW? Which is rapidly crumbling to dust and no longer has much of a future? Karasu Apr 23 #11
This is being pushed by the christian fundies. travelingthrulife Apr 24 #90
This is all musk truthisfreedom Apr 23 #12
Ever so dark but funny! wolfie001 Apr 23 #17
The Project 2025 loons are also pushing for this not fooled Apr 23 #63
does that come with a white et tu Apr 23 #13
The color of the baby is of utmost concern.... wolfie001 Apr 23 #19
Waddya gonna gimme for my pitbull? JoseBalow Apr 23 #14
This wouldn't even cover the delivery nt wolfie001 Apr 23 #16
Sure, that will happen Old Testament Libera Apr 23 #18
And if you don't get knocked up.............. Lovie777 Apr 23 #20
ICE Karma13612 Apr 24 #87
In a nation in which prenatal, childbirth, and post-partum care averages $19,000 . . . Journeyman Apr 23 #21
LMAO. Cant afford kids given Trump's stagflation Blasphemer Apr 23 #22
Taxes Iamscrewed Apr 23 #23
Is this different from the current child tax Deminpenn Apr 23 #25
Yes BumRushDaShow Apr 23 #27
Jesus Christ, these have got to the the dumbest people ever to hold elected office in US history. walkingman Apr 23 #26
Nazi authorities created the Lebensborn program... dchill Apr 23 #28
I scrolled to find who would know about "Lebensborn" Mira Apr 23 #65
Thanks! dchill Apr 23 #66
Stalin started and the Soviet Union had medals for mothers too Botany Apr 24 #72
drumpf and eloon think that women can be bought for a pittance. greatauntoftriplets Apr 23 #30
They think for $5k they can buy a woman AND a child. Sick fucks. nt SunSeeker Apr 24 #94
The $5,000 amount is an insult, considering what they're grifting for themselves. greatauntoftriplets Apr 24 #99
Yes, it is an insult, considering how much a woman invests in each child. SunSeeker Apr 24 #100
Exactly. greatauntoftriplets Apr 24 #104
Betcha brown people won't qualify. n/t TygrBright Apr 23 #31
$5000 to cover cost of tariffs SupportSanity Apr 23 #33
Makes me more pro-choice than ever. Kath2 Apr 23 #34
Wait, I thought they hated it when women got pregnant just to get government benefits. tanyev Apr 23 #35
Just like Ceausescu. Next comes outlawing all birth control. Scrivener7 Apr 23 #36
Ceausescu is a blast from the past! BumRushDaShow Apr 23 #38
You'd think we'd be beyond this. Scrivener7 Apr 23 #46
"What's old is new again" BumRushDaShow Apr 23 #48
Isn't it Funny Ojerly Apr 23 #37
One detail left out. Buddyzbuddy Apr 23 #42
$5.000 will barely cover any pre-natal care for the mother IMHO. riversedge Apr 24 #93
"...a country where all children can safely grow up..." Buns_of_Fire Apr 23 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Buns_of_Fire Apr 23 #45
How about affordable housing? Squaredeal Apr 23 #47
Didn't Putin just offer Russian young women leftyladyfrommo Apr 23 #49
Five grand is the square root of sweet bugger nothing love_katz Apr 23 #50
ROFL....have they done math on cost of having kids....ever? Maybe times 100 would cover real cost. dutch777 Apr 23 #51
It's not about the babies or the women. bucolic_frolic Apr 23 #52
maybe just stop trying to kill people. barbtries Apr 23 #53
white, and "christian" barbtries Apr 23 #54
You know, these masked ICE goons Karma13612 Apr 24 #85
So how long before they have moniss Apr 23 #55
Paying women to have babies doesn't work. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 23 #56
Wouldn't even pay for an easy pregnancy viva la Apr 23 #57
How about ensuring that parents don't ruin their careers and pay levels by taking time off spooky3 Apr 23 #58
What a STUPID fucking idea FoxNewsSucks Apr 23 #59
Do they send the money EuterpeThelo Apr 23 #60
The new meaning of Karma13612 Apr 24 #86
Would a baby dog be OK ? chouchou Apr 23 #61
Too many people anyway, we don't need more. OverBurn Apr 23 #64
For a party who refuses.... Hope22 Apr 24 #68
Gee, where did this idea come from?........... blue-wave Apr 24 #69
This makes me feel insane Lulu KC Apr 24 #70
Sooo, what...$2700 after taxes? Idiots. n/t flvegan Apr 24 #71
He won't do it Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 24 #73
It also occurs to me... jmowreader Apr 24 #74
The Duggars approve of the idea. sop Apr 24 #75
A drop in the bucket. That won't cover a full time daycare AllyCat Apr 24 #76
Cheap bastards! Surrogate mothers would get way more. bucolic_frolic Apr 24 #77
GOP wants women barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen aeromanKC Apr 24 #78
A pittance... homegirl Apr 24 #79
unserious offer aimed at unserious people. Javaman Apr 24 #81
So, Socialism? mwb970 Apr 24 #83
As a law abiding tax payer, Karma13612 Apr 24 #84
So we're going to pay money to people to have kids? Ridiculous. travelingthrulife Apr 24 #89
Trump looks more like the authoritarian leaders of Russia and China with each passing day. Martin68 Apr 24 #95
that doesn't even cover the cost of the birth WhiteTara Apr 24 #96
Black or white, America doesn't take care of the children we already have, so why incentive more? nt Jit423 Apr 24 #97
More looking glass insanity. I mean, WTF??? ananda Apr 24 #101
The Nick Cannon bill. SNL is sure to cover this. twodogsbarking Apr 24 #102
Population projections melm00se Apr 24 #103
Over $80,000 in birth costs is what I recall reported years back and 1M to raise a kid to adult, so 5000.... Brainfodder Apr 24 #105

C_U_L8R

(47,221 posts)
1. Do they know how much it costs to raise a kid?
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:28 PM
Apr 23

$5000 ain't diddlysquat. No one is getting uplifted by this dumb PR ploy.

erronis

(19,332 posts)
29. I've seen around $250,000 to raise a kid and send them through college.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:46 PM
Apr 23

Of course these perverts don't care once the fetus is outside of the mother. No help for medical bills, parental leave, childcare, education, healthcare, etc.

SunSeeker

(55,624 posts)
39. No, it's around $350,000 to get through age 18; $1 million to get through college.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:22 PM
Apr 23

As the parent of a son in his 3rd year at UCSD here in California, the $1 million is a low estimate.

And those are 2009 numbers. https://business.time.com/2009/09/18/1-1-million-cost-to-raise-a-child-from-birth-through-college/

erronis

(19,332 posts)
40. Well, my daughters (in the 80s) were a lot less expensive.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:28 PM
Apr 23

One went to a small state (MD) college.

The other put herself through City College of San Francisco for about $60 per credit hour.

My parents paid almost nothing for my college education (which I didn't complete.)

I'm absolutely certain that the value of a degree is much less than it used to be; yet the costs keep rising astronomically.

SunSeeker

(55,624 posts)
43. That's because during the past 35 years, the real-dollar cost of college has increased by 1,000%.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:40 PM
Apr 23

Bengus81

(8,739 posts)
80. $19,444 per year to 18?? LOL! Expensive yes but not $20K per year.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:06 AM
Apr 24

My daughter has a son who will be one year old in mid-May. They have NOT spent $20,000 on him in his first year. That's $385.00 per week.

SunSeeker

(55,624 posts)
92. People who have not raised a child in the last 10 years have no clue what the costs are.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:28 AM
Apr 24

Costs have exploded.

SunSeeker

(55,624 posts)
91. Are you counting the cost of healthcare, and birth, of that 1 year old?
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:23 AM
Apr 24

And as the kid gets older, you need a bigger house, that 1 bedroom apartment won't do. And a bigger car too. You'll need an SUV, because that little Corolla hatchback won't cut it for hauling around soccer and camping crap - all of which also costs lots of money. And God help you if your kid gets involved in club sports teams, which will run you $3k-$5k per year. My kid played club soccer since he was 7. Then there's school, toys and electronics, clothes, food, childcare/babysitters and healthcare. And that's assuming your kid is healthy. If your kid is born with a handicap, all bets are off.

As the parent of a 21 year old in college, I can attest that those numbers are pretty accurate for raising a kid in a middle class lifestyle.

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,108 posts)
62. It would only increase births for dimwit parents who can't figure out diddlysquat as you say. Not a great set. . nt
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:48 PM
Apr 23

SunSeeker

(55,624 posts)
41. Without insurance, the average cost in 2023 for a vaginal delivery with no complications was $28,655.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:30 PM
Apr 23

I'm sure it's much more now.

And who's gonna pay for the childcare or time lost from work?

Ponietz

(3,600 posts)
88. I realized after I posted that $5K would only cover the prenatal care -- thanks for the fact check
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:22 AM
Apr 24

SergeStorms

(19,601 posts)
98. It'll pay for his MAGA morons.....
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:26 PM
Apr 24

trip to Las Vegas where they all turn it into BIG MONEY with their surefire "system" they learned on YouTube. 😉

The child? MAGA granny will take care of the kid while they break the bank in Vegas. Then they'll rely on their local food bank and the church to provide the most basic needs. Voilà! A brand new ignorant MAGAt for the right-wing to brainwash with their "America First" propaganda.

Trouble is, it's a MAGA scheme destined to succeed, considering the sheer magnitude of dumb-shits in the U.S. right now.

Moostache

(10,474 posts)
6. More insulting nonsense from unserious people in charge at a serious moment,..,
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:42 PM
Apr 23

Trump circa 2025 is unquestionably the dumbest man to ever assume the presidency, now actually further dimminished from the previous dumbest man - Trump circa 2017. History will record the damage and the end of the American hemegony that he wrought. The final toll will be immense and last for generations.

I hope the people who voted for this outcome live through all of the aftermath. I hope they suffer. I hope they see their families shredded and their lives destroyed and that they have to tell their children and grandchilden that it was THEIR fault for choosing this mess. I hope they have to lie dying on their death beds and are forced to unburden their souls with the truth, that they must look into the disillusioned and pained eyes of their children and admit: "I did it because the internet memes made me unable to vote of the clearly qualified and superior mental cnadidate because it was 1) a "she" , 2) not white, and 3) the othjer internet tough guys would make fun of me and call me a crass term for vaginas and I lacked the guts to do the right thing.

I hope the dying words of every one of thes miserable scumbag fuckwads is "I'm sorry. I'm so very sorry." as they die watching the faces of their loved ones grimace in horror at them one final time.

aggiesal

(9,979 posts)
7. We need to create more Brown Shirts & I'll give $5,000 when you do ...
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:48 PM
Apr 23

Remember, the $5,000 is only for those eligible to be a Brown Shirt.

We need to breed only the right people.

LucasD

(96 posts)
9. They want slaves not children
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:50 PM
Apr 23

If they really wanted more children born to ensure the future of America, they would stop destroying the economy, invest in PUBLIC education, universities, healthcare, the environment, infrastructure, etc.. You know, everything that ACTUALLY makes a country great.

Instead they're turning the USA into a dystopian nightmare while asking why couples refuse to bring children into the world.

Morons.

twodogsbarking

(13,496 posts)
10. Here's five grand to help pay for your quater million dollar delivery fee.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:57 PM
Apr 23

Witch Dr. Oz said you were too poor for insurance. Don't forget to say thank-you.

Karasu

(1,036 posts)
11. In THIS country? NOW? Which is rapidly crumbling to dust and no longer has much of a future?
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:59 PM
Apr 23

LOL. Give me a fucking break. At this point, you'd have to offer seven figures a year for the rest of my life to even consider it, and on a purely ethical level, I still wouldn't be able to do it.

Personally, I wouldn't wish anyone to be born into the society they are creating.

And what's with these idiots thinking any American can be bribed with one-time payments of $5k, anyway? That's the same number they floated for their fantasy "DOGE checks", too. Fucking clowns.

travelingthrulife

(2,171 posts)
90. This is being pushed by the christian fundies.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:46 AM
Apr 24

They will have too many kids anyway, so the payment is a good deal.

One of my fundie nieces married a guy who is competing with his mother for number of kids birthed. His Mom had 12 so they intend to produce more. It proves they are god's chosen.

truthisfreedom

(23,391 posts)
12. This is all musk
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:00 PM
Apr 23

He’s obsessed with babies.

I can hear Jeffrey Epstein laughing from the grave: “Good one, Donny! Fresh meat!”

not fooled

(6,252 posts)
63. The Project 2025 loons are also pushing for this
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:58 PM
Apr 23

But how will they keep the 5k only for white babies?

18. Sure, that will happen
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:14 PM
Apr 23

We have a friend who told us to expect a $5,000 DOGE check pretty soon.

We'll see that one very soon after all the manufacturing comes back to the US. And when all the bureaucrats are employed putting tiny little screws into
I-phones. So if you go ahead and have a baby, don't hold your breath waiting for the baby check.

Lovie777

(18,230 posts)
20. And if you don't get knocked up..............
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:17 PM
Apr 23

will shithole musk republicans want the 5 thousand plus interest back?

Karma13612

(4,771 posts)
87. ICE
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:20 AM
Apr 24

Under the new Gilead regime, will make sure the woman gets pregnant.

One way or the other, if you catch my drift.

The new mission and meaning of ICE will be

Immigration and Conception Enforcement

Journeyman

(15,315 posts)
21. In a nation in which prenatal, childbirth, and post-partum care averages $19,000 . . .
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:18 PM
Apr 23

that $5,000 will almost take care of the first trimester.

Will Dear Leader grace us with a "Mother's Cross" to signify our contribution to the health of the nation? (Provided, of course, the child meets all the rigid qualification standards -- size, weight, health, color?) Or will these children be conceived under a Lebensborn program, and be raised by the State?

Can't wait to tell my wife about this. We're both crossing the threshold of our 70s this year but maybe we can get an advance on the $5K if we make a Trumpian promise to go through with something we have no intention or capability of doing, just like Dear Leader does on a daily basis.

Blasphemer

(3,436 posts)
22. LMAO. Cant afford kids given Trump's stagflation
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:19 PM
Apr 23

Plus, I agree that he only cares about White babies and we outlawed "Whites Only" laws a long time ago. I wonder if Uncle Clarence would go as far as outlawing himself to please Trump.

Iamscrewed

(190 posts)
23. Taxes
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:23 PM
Apr 23

We already have an overpopulation problem on the planet, taxes on the poor, a desire for cheap labor and increasing need for cannon fodder.

walkingman

(9,160 posts)
26. Jesus Christ, these have got to the the dumbest people ever to hold elected office in US history.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:45 PM
Apr 23

Mira

(22,524 posts)
65. I scrolled to find who would know about "Lebensborn"
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:10 PM
Apr 23

It immediately came to my mind.
Everyone: click the link and see what Trump learned from "Mein Kampf" at the side of his bed.

Botany

(73,984 posts)
72. Stalin started and the Soviet Union had medals for mothers too
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:27 AM
Apr 24


The order of Maternal Glory.

greatauntoftriplets

(177,563 posts)
99. The $5,000 amount is an insult, considering what they're grifting for themselves.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:51 PM
Apr 24

I assume that it'll be subject to income tax, which will make the real amount even less.

SunSeeker

(55,624 posts)
100. Yes, it is an insult, considering how much a woman invests in each child.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:00 PM
Apr 24

It suggests that what women put into raising a child is not much.

Kath2

(3,154 posts)
34. Makes me more pro-choice than ever.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:05 PM
Apr 23

After the baby is born, you get your $5,000 and, as always you are on your own. Fuck them.

Ojerly

(94 posts)
37. Isn't it Funny
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:18 PM
Apr 23

the Republicans were constantly harping about "welfare mom's" abusing the system by having "extra" kids to get more money. This is no different as it ain't FAT DonOLD paying for it. It's taxpayers.

Buddyzbuddy

(776 posts)
42. One detail left out.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:35 PM
Apr 23

To combat the centuries of discrimination of white America, the new babies must be white Christian Americans to qualify for the $5,000 and must be named Donald or Donatella.

Buns_of_Fire

(18,391 posts)
44. "...a country where all children can safely grow up..."
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:42 PM
Apr 23

Sure thing, Sparky. Let's discuss the gutting of the FDA (safe food) and your unequivocal support of the Sacred Second Amendment (safe schools).

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

love_katz

(3,006 posts)
50. Five grand is the square root of sweet bugger nothing
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 08:56 PM
Apr 23

It's just spit in the wind compared to what it actually costs to birth and raise a kid.
Add to the pure hell kind of society that the Christofascists want to create, why would anyone with a caring heart and a functioning brain want to have kids?!?
Any woman with any smarts at all will prefer to participate in the 4B movement, at least until men quit trying to turn us into a real life version of The Handmaid's Tale.
Is A Dick brainless POS can take a flying leap at himself and take the freaking incels with him, preferably to Mars, with no support and no return ticket.

dutch777

(4,365 posts)
51. ROFL....have they done math on cost of having kids....ever? Maybe times 100 would cover real cost.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:02 PM
Apr 23

Pretty sure my 2 1/2 yo granddaughter will go thru $5k of diapers alone. And they seem to need to be fed, clothed, transported, medically treated, entertained, some even educated to a high level. (Although THEY would probably be willing to forego this, especially for the girls).

bucolic_frolic

(50,076 posts)
52. It's not about the babies or the women.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:06 PM
Apr 23

They're trying to convince MAGA men that they can still get laid.

barbtries

(30,367 posts)
53. maybe just stop trying to kill people.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:10 PM
Apr 23

these times are so much worse than interesting. they're truly insane.

Karma13612

(4,771 posts)
85. You know, these masked ICE goons
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:12 AM
Apr 24

Roaming around and rounding up all the “illegal” immigrants?

As we approach Gilead level crap, the new meaning of ICE could simply be:

Immigration and Conception Enforcement.

Same acronym, same uniform, same authoritarianism.

JFC

moniss

(7,180 posts)
55. So how long before they have
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:12 PM
Apr 23

de facto "baby farms" where women who are incarcerated for other things are "offered" the alternative of serving their time making babies? What is really at the heart of this is the White Supremacist theory about being replaced.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,801 posts)
56. Paying women to have babies doesn't work.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:15 PM
Apr 23

It never has. It's been tried before, and does not result in more babies.

Women, the very vast majority of women, don't want as many babies as their bodies can bear. They want one or two or maybe three, and that's enough, thank you very much.

spooky3

(37,419 posts)
58. How about ensuring that parents don't ruin their careers and pay levels by taking time off
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:16 PM
Apr 23

to care for kids? (steps are needed beyond unpaid family leave)

FoxNewsSucks

(11,140 posts)
59. What a STUPID fucking idea
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:21 PM
Apr 23

The world is WAY to damn over crowded as it is. The congestion is overwhelming. We need a much lower birthrate, not more babies. Particularly babies according to some rightwing plan.

And, even though it's been pointed out here, $5k isn't anywhere near the cost of birthing a baby and raising a child to adulthood. Even if everything goes right, which it usually does not.

Hope22

(3,929 posts)
68. For a party who refuses....
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:40 AM
Apr 24

Paid maternity leave/ paternity leave, healthcare, the right to chose if her fetus is not viable, the right to chose in any circumstances, access to birth control, subsidized childcare, food for every American, quality education, DEI to ensure equal access to quality jobs……this $5k is of zero consequence. Forcing women into poverty to create children that will have zero future is a laughable venture! Reproduction for cannon fodder is never going to be a marketable concept here!

Lulu KC

(7,958 posts)
70. This makes me feel insane
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:51 AM
Apr 24

Like I want to scream. So many layers of "bad idea" here. Countless layers.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(122,338 posts)
73. He won't do it
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:41 AM
Apr 24

Just like he didn't raise taxes on millionaires while supposedly briefly considering such.

jmowreader

(52,209 posts)
74. It also occurs to me...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 05:54 AM
Apr 24

...that we don't have enough schools, bed space in Labor, Delivery and Recovery centers, pediatricians, or affordable housing to increase the birth rate much over what it is now.

Then there's the supply of food and water.

Past what the rest of y'all are discussing, all of which are valid, we simply don't have the infrastructure to turn the women of America into serial baby-making machines like Musk wants to do.

sop

(13,938 posts)
75. The Duggars approve of the idea.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:23 AM
Apr 24

Let's see...19 kids X $5,000 comes to 95 grand. Wow, that's almost enough to pay for Josh Duggar's defense lawyer at his child pornography trial.

aeromanKC

(3,639 posts)
78. GOP wants women barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:39 AM
Apr 24

They definitely don't want them out in the workforce taking jobs from men and making the men look bad by doing so.

homegirl

(1,711 posts)
79. A pittance...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:41 AM
Apr 24

instead of subsidizing daycare, family leave and the support offered by the Scandinavian Social Democracies!!!

KOMRAD KRAZNOV has never been in touch with reality and, clearly neither are most GOP/MAGA politicians.

The question is "are their supporters so stupid they will buy into this?"

Javaman

(63,735 posts)
81. unserious offer aimed at unserious people.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:31 AM
Apr 24

hoping to shut everyone one up with his "generosity".

Karma13612

(4,771 posts)
84. As a law abiding tax payer,
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:02 AM
Apr 24

I DO NOT support paying parents to have more kids.

No freaking way. I will be as adamant about this as those insufferable anti-abortion activists are about funding for planned parenthood and allowing insurance companies to cover birth control.

travelingthrulife

(2,171 posts)
89. So we're going to pay money to people to have kids? Ridiculous.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:41 AM
Apr 24

Will only white people qualify? 8 billion people in the world.

WhiteTara

(30,714 posts)
96. that doesn't even cover the cost of the birth
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:53 AM
Apr 24

even if it's a normal one. MAGAt math is at it again.

Jit423

(1,283 posts)
97. Black or white, America doesn't take care of the children we already have, so why incentive more? nt
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:05 PM
Apr 24

ananda

(31,598 posts)
101. More looking glass insanity. I mean, WTF???
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 02:02 PM
Apr 24

No reproductive or healthcare rights for women, yet wants to
bribe them to get pregnant?

Sheesh

twodogsbarking

(13,496 posts)
102. The Nick Cannon bill. SNL is sure to cover this.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 02:08 PM
Apr 24

You know there will be guys wanting half the money.

melm00se

(5,100 posts)
103. Population projections
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 04:13 PM
Apr 24

The US population forecast, especially with Trump's immigration policies, is headed downward.



They need to figure out a way to grow the population without immigration and this is it.

Brainfodder

(7,206 posts)
105. Over $80,000 in birth costs is what I recall reported years back and 1M to raise a kid to adult, so 5000....
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 05:25 PM
Apr 24

Checks out?

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