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Omaha Steve

(107,324 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 04:26 PM Feb 2023

Rights to famous 'Crying Indian' TV ad go to Native American group, which is retiring it

Source: MSN-LA Times

Story by TERRY TANG • 10h ago

Since its debut in 1971, an anti-pollution ad showing a man in Native American attire shedding a single tear at the sight of smokestacks and litter blighting a once-unblemished landscape has become an indelible piece of TV pop culture.

It's been referenced over the decades on shows like “The Simpsons” and “South Park” and in internet memes. But now a Native American advocacy group that was given the rights to the long-parodied public service announcement is retiring it, saying that it has always been inappropriate.

The “Crying Indian” with his buckskins and long braids made the late actor Iron Eyes Cody a recognizable face in households nationwide. But to many Native Americans, the public service announcement has been a painful reminder of the enduring stereotypes they face.

The nonprofit that originally commissioned the TV advertisement, Keep America Beautiful, had long been considering how to retire the ad and announced this week that it's doing so by transferring ownership of the rights to the National Congress of American Indians.




Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/rights-to-famous-crying-indian-tv-ad-go-to-native-american-group-which-is-retiring-it/ar-AA17Z1FN

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Rights to famous 'Crying Indian' TV ad go to Native American group, which is retiring it (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 2023 OP
It was very effective underpants Feb 2023 #1
Damn powerful PSA. Wish we had them but they went away. Delivered messages for the public good. Evolve Dammit Feb 2023 #2
It's actually "The Crying Italian" Kablooie Feb 2023 #3
Yup I remember reading something about him. canuckledragger Feb 2023 #9
I may have this post removed, but I read a long article about him and he was adopted into a tribe LT Barclay Feb 2023 #13
I hadn't heard that but it's fair to bring it up. Kablooie Feb 2023 #15
My wife is Italian. When younger we stayed at a campground operated by twodogsbarking Feb 2023 #20
Iron Eyes Cody was married to a woman who wnylib Feb 2023 #22
As a young child in the 70's, that ad gave me a positive Wingus Dingus Feb 2023 #4
i was a young teen, and yes i thought the same thing nt orleans Feb 2023 #8
Same. nt pazzyanne Feb 2023 #12
Great ad 50+ years ago ... Auggie Feb 2023 #5
50 years? That long? Damn I'm old... nt Shipwack Feb 2023 #17
The lesser known part of the story is that the ad campaign was paid for by the packaging industry pecosbob Feb 2023 #6
Well the end user is the one who decides... EX500rider Feb 2023 #10
i loved this psa. granted, i was fairly young but it tugged at my heartstrings orleans Feb 2023 #7
That ad showed no discarded cans or bottles in all the litter it had in the video. Botany Feb 2023 #11
OK. I'm going to stick my neck out and ask why the ads were offensive? LT Barclay Feb 2023 #14
Here's the commercial before it's pulled, very powerful: Polybius Feb 2023 #16
The 'Crying Indian' ad that fooled the environmental movement pecosbob Feb 2023 #18
And yet, the ads did make the general public more aware wnylib Feb 2023 #23
He was Italian, not native 'merican. twodogsbarking Feb 2023 #19
His wife had some Seneca ancestry and was a descendent of wnylib Feb 2023 #24
I met Iron Eyes Cody. Grumpy Old Guy Feb 2023 #21
Thanks for sharing! Kaleva Feb 2023 #25
Sad. They should remake it with Native Americans and not just "in costume" Wonder Why Feb 2023 #26

Evolve Dammit

(21,272 posts)
2. Damn powerful PSA. Wish we had them but they went away. Delivered messages for the public good.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 04:46 PM
Feb 2023

Now all we get is conspiracy theories, misinformation Khabuki, and outright bullshit. OK I'm done

 

canuckledragger

(1,992 posts)
9. Yup I remember reading something about him.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 06:12 PM
Feb 2023

He was an older Italian guy that liked dressing up as a native american.

LT Barclay

(3,117 posts)
13. I may have this post removed, but I read a long article about him and he was adopted into a tribe
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 08:43 PM
Feb 2023

(can't remember which). If we are going to acknowledge Native American rights, we have to acknowledge that they may have different standards for who they regard as a member of their tribe.

Kablooie

(18,995 posts)
15. I hadn't heard that but it's fair to bring it up.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 10:11 PM
Feb 2023

He played native Americans in a lot of movies and TV shows.

twodogsbarking

(16,172 posts)
20. My wife is Italian. When younger we stayed at a campground operated by
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 11:04 AM
Feb 2023

Cherokee Indians. She had a tan and long black hair. They did a lot of double takes.

wnylib

(25,338 posts)
22. Iron Eyes Cody was married to a woman who
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:05 PM
Feb 2023

had some Seneca ancestry, Bertha Parker. She was an archaeologist and the daughter of Arthur C. Parker, a well respected anthropologist and archaeologist in NY State whose focus was his Seneca and broader Iroquois ancestry.

Arthur Parker's grandfather, Nicholson Parker, was Seneca. Nicholson married a white woman and their son, Frederick, also married a white woman. So, although Arthur grew up on Seneca territory with knowledge of the language, traditions, and customs, he was not a tribal member, since the Seneca are matrilineal. The Seneca nation formally adopted Arthur into a clan in order for him to have tribal membership due to the work that he did on behalf of the Seneca people.

That adopted membership, though, is only for the adopted individual and does not pass on to descendants. Therefore, Arthur Parker's daughter, Bertha Parker, was not a tribal member, but she did have some biological Seneca ancestry through her father and her great grandfather, Nicholson Parker. Nicholson Parker was descended from the Seneca religious leader Handsome Lake, who was half brother to Seneca Chief Cornplanter.

So, Iron Eyes Cody married a woman with some Native American ancestry and his wife's father (who already had some Seneca ancestry) had been adopted into the Seneca Nation. But Iron Eyes Cody was Italian Anerican, and was never adopted into any tribe, although he claimed at various times to be a member of various tribes.

(My grandmother was also a descendent of Handsome Lake and a distant cousin of Arthur Parker.)





Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
4. As a young child in the 70's, that ad gave me a positive
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 05:16 PM
Feb 2023

feeling toward Native Americans--that they cherished the American landscape and cared more than the rest of America about the degradation of the environment.

pecosbob

(8,121 posts)
6. The lesser known part of the story is that the ad campaign was paid for by the packaging industry
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 05:36 PM
Feb 2023

to shift blame for pollution away from the manufacturer and onto the consumer.

EX500rider

(12,036 posts)
10. Well the end user is the one who decides...
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 06:29 PM
Feb 2023

... to either properly disposes of it or throws it out the car window.

orleans

(36,476 posts)
7. i loved this psa. granted, i was fairly young but it tugged at my heartstrings
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 05:38 PM
Feb 2023

as it did with my mom's.
i'd stop whatever i was doing and watch the ad.

the psa symbolized the once pristine nature of our surroundings and how people were destroying our environment

Botany

(75,522 posts)
11. That ad showed no discarded cans or bottles in all the litter it had in the video.
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 06:49 PM
Feb 2023

One more piece of corporate propaganda and I just found out that the actor was an Italian not
a native American.

LT Barclay

(3,117 posts)
14. OK. I'm going to stick my neck out and ask why the ads were offensive?
Mon Feb 27, 2023, 08:48 PM
Feb 2023

To some extent it reminds me of a time my Kenyan friend was upset over a video that was trying to solicit contributions to help the poor in Kenya. He was upset that the video only showed poor areas and didn't show the "modern Kenya".
Of course a short video or image never tells the story, but I'm thinking "offensive" is a bit of a reach.

pecosbob

(8,121 posts)
18. The 'Crying Indian' ad that fooled the environmental movement
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 03:08 AM
Feb 2023
https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-indian-crying-environment-ads-pollution-1123-20171113-story.html

Keep America Beautiful was founded in 1953 by the American Can Co. and the Owens-Illinois Glass Co., who were later joined by the likes of Coca-Cola and the Dixie Cup Co. During the 1960s, Keep America Beautiful anti-litter campaigns featured Susan Spotless, a white girl who wore a spotless white dress and pointed her accusatory finger at pieces of trash heedlessly dropped by her parents. The campaign used the wagging finger of a child to condemn individuals for being bad parents, irresponsible citizens and unpatriotic Americans. But by 1971, Susan Spotless no longer captured the zeitgeist of the burgeoning environmental movement and rising concerns about pollution.


The shift from Keep America Beautiful’s bland admonishments about litter to the Crying Indian did not represent an embrace of ecological values but instead indicated industry’s fear of them. In the time leading up to the first Earth Day in 1970, environmental demonstrations across the United States focused on the issue of throwaway containers. All these protests held industry — not consumers — responsible for the proliferation of disposable items that depleted natural resources and created a solid waste crisis. Enter the Crying Indian, a new public relations effort that incorporated ecological values but deflected attention from beverage and packaging industry practices. Keep America Beautiful practiced a sly form of propaganda. Since the corporations behind the campaign never publicized their involvement, audiences assumed that the group was a disinterested party. The Crying Indian provided the guilt-inducing tear that the group needed to propagandize without seeming propagandistic and countered the claims of a political movement without seeming political. At the moment the tear appears, the narrator, in a baritone voice, intones: “People start pollution. People can stop it.” By making individual viewers feel guilty and responsible for the polluted environment, the ad deflected the question of responsibility away from corporations and placed it entirely in the realm of individual action, concealing the role of industry in polluting the landscape.


When the ad debuted, Keep America Beautiful enjoyed the support of mainstream environmental groups, including the National Audubon Society and the Sierra Club. But these organizations soon resigned from its advisory council over an important environmental debate of the 1970s: efforts to pass “bottle bills,” legislation that would require soft drink and beer producers to sell, as they had until quite recently, their beverages in reusable containers. The shift to the throwaway was responsible, in part, for the rising levels of litter that Keep America Beautiful publicized, but also, as environmentalists emphasized, for the mining of vast quantities of natural resources, the production of various kinds of pollution, and the generation of tremendous amounts of solid waste. The Keep America Beautiful leadership lined up against the bottle bills, going so far, in one case, as to label supporters of such legislation as “communists.”

wnylib

(25,338 posts)
23. And yet, the ads did make the general public more aware
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:14 PM
Feb 2023

of and interested in environmental protection.

wnylib

(25,338 posts)
24. His wife had some Seneca ancestry and was a descendent of
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 01:17 PM
Feb 2023

a well respected Seneca leader. But it's true that Iron Eyes was Italian American, not Native American.

Grumpy Old Guy

(4,099 posts)
21. I met Iron Eyes Cody.
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 11:55 AM
Feb 2023

He was a guest on a show I was stage managing. He was a very nice person, and yes, he was Italian.

Wonder Why

(6,250 posts)
26. Sad. They should remake it with Native Americans and not just "in costume"
Tue Feb 28, 2023, 06:20 PM
Feb 2023

but telling the story of the things we have done and failed to do with the land stolen from them.

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