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senseandsensibility

(26,163 posts)
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:52 AM Monday

Joe Walsh, former Republican, speaks for me

He was just on MSNOW addressing the stupid, inaccurate, but oh so typical R strategy for the midterms. In case you've been asleep for the past few days, their brilliant strategy is to call Dems "communists". That's it.

He was asked if it would work and his answer was it will work if the Democrats don't fight back. It will work if Democrats act like they're above it all and don't address it.

He then gave the recent examples of how easy it was for Rs to smear Dems with the "defund all the police" memes and more recently, with absurd claims about Dems supporting transgender surgeries in public schools, etc.

Acting like the public is too smart to believe this or getting into a highly academic discussion about the differences between various forms of government is not the way to fight back. Keep it simple. Call them liars. Call them desperate. Call them failures.

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Joe Walsh, former Republican, speaks for me (Original Post) senseandsensibility Monday OP
I prefer the straight forward approach... Moostache Monday #1
Facts don't matter Ferryboat Monday #2
And the fact that they are LYING senseandsensibility Monday #5
Dem-voting counties generate 70% of this nation's economy and pay the lion's share of taxes. blm Monday #3
That means GOP-voting counties contribute just 30% to GDP. blm Monday #4
No. 6: Controlled Mass Media Kid Berwyn Monday #7
Great Point Kid Berwyn Monday #6
Yes, we have the recent examples of defund the police and transgender senseandsensibility Monday #10
It seems to me angrychair Monday #8
You can't implement progressive ideas if Mossfern Monday #11
Well progressives aren't fighting angrychair Monday #12
It's great that they're winning Mossfern Monday #22
When you break it down, it is a battle between propagandists... kentuck Monday #9
It's because they show so much love for stupid people mdbl Monday #13
They speak their language senseandsensibility Monday #15
He's an opportunist deadbeat dad. I wouldn't take his advice about anything. xuplate Monday #14
Democrats need to respond by forcefully pointing out that Republicans want billionaires... Ol Janx Spirit Monday #16
Offense is certainly a big part of it senseandsensibility Monday #21
Always on the defensive from the childish name callers lame54 Monday #17
they are also blaming the bad economy on Joe Biden and him "letting in" hordes of illegal immigrants LymphocyteLover Monday #18
My dumbass in-laws have already bought into it... ECL213 Monday #19
And unfortunately there are a lot of those people out there senseandsensibility Monday #23
I'm a member of the Democratic party Torchlight Monday #20

Moostache

(11,360 posts)
1. I prefer the straight forward approach...
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:01 PM
Monday

1) "I'm sorry that my opponent does not respect you or the rule of law."
2) "The policies I support, and will vote for in your name, are for YOUR benefit and to provide a fair playing field."
3) "Free markets are not what make your life better FAIR and FREE Markets do."

Ferryboat

(1,293 posts)
2. Facts don't matter
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:03 PM
Monday

Trying to convince the opposition with facts hasn't worked in the past.
Best to point to everyday examples,
Such as postal service, fire department, library's etc.

senseandsensibility

(26,163 posts)
5. And the fact that they are LYING
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:46 PM
Monday

because they are. Everyone knows he's a liar. So we need to state that upfront at the beginning of every response.

blm

(114,879 posts)
4. That means GOP-voting counties contribute just 30% to GDP.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:22 PM
Monday

Yet their media has convinced the general public that the opposite is true. Don’t let them get away with it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2020/11/17/biden-voting-counties-equal-70-of-the-us-economy-infographic/

Biden-Voting Counties Equal 70% Of The U.S. Economy

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senseandsensibility

(26,163 posts)
10. Yes, we have the recent examples of defund the police and transgender
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:03 PM
Monday

surgeries in the public schools to see where this will go. Of course those were blatantly untrue too. But Dems acted "above it all" as Walsh described it. No. That's doesn't work. At least point out that they are lying.

angrychair

(12,624 posts)
8. It seems to me
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:50 PM
Monday

The response has been to throw progressives under the bus by partnering with Republicans in attacking progressives...some Democratic consultants literally advocating for progressives being thrown out of the Democratic Party and their primary wins cancelled.

That seems to be the response so far.

Mossfern

(4,942 posts)
11. You can't implement progressive ideas if
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:15 PM
Monday

Democrats don't control the legislature and win back the Presidency.
Think strategically ..... We need to keep our BIG tent with both progressives and more moderate democrats cooperating, not fighting with each other.

angrychair

(12,624 posts)
12. Well progressives aren't fighting
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 01:33 PM
Monday

We are winning primary elections. It's not a secret plot against anyone. We ran in primaries like any other candidate, just because progressives are winning against incumbents.
If incumbents are losing those elections, maybe they should have been listening to their constituents.

The only people fighting other Democrats are the moderates. Maybe they should stop talking and start listening more.

Mossfern

(4,942 posts)
22. It's great that they're winning
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 04:03 PM
Monday

do they need to add the term "socialist" to their identity?
I think their policies are what's winning, not that description.

In the midterms we need to win with voters who don't typically vote in primaries. Yes, even Moderates and Independents.

kentuck

(116,273 posts)
9. When you break it down, it is a battle between propagandists...
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 12:53 PM
Monday

...and the Republicans have themselves superior to Democrats in the propaganda battles.

senseandsensibility

(26,163 posts)
15. They speak their language
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 02:42 PM
Monday

That's part of it. But they also lie. We can speak their language too, but we can tell the truth.

xuplate

(270 posts)
14. He's an opportunist deadbeat dad. I wouldn't take his advice about anything.
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 02:42 PM
Monday

Last edited Tue Jul 7, 2026, 04:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,148 posts)
16. Democrats need to respond by forcefully pointing out that Republicans want billionaires...
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 02:46 PM
Monday

...and trillionaires to run and ruin our lives.

It's not nearly good enough to just say you don't need to be scared of us--there are PLENTY of reasons to be scared of the opposition, but Democrats do not seem to be out there enough pointing out how much control the current Republican party has given to the handful of billionaires that most decidedly DO NOT have the interest of the public at heart.

It is NOT a choice between Democratic Socialism and Capitalism; it is a choice between having a society that functions on the most basic level for everyone and a society where you beg your billionaire overlord for the right to live this week after they've taken your job, destroyed your planet, and bought every election that might have made your life better.

senseandsensibility

(26,163 posts)
21. Offense is certainly a big part of it
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 03:20 PM
Monday

and I want more of it. I was also want Dems to meet this lie about communism head on.

ECL213

(473 posts)
19. My dumbass in-laws have already bought into it...
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 02:54 PM
Monday

My wife was just at their house the other day and her dad was railing about how this is becoming a Communist country...while they live on Medicare...and Social Security...

senseandsensibility

(26,163 posts)
23. And unfortunately there are a lot of those people out there
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 05:53 PM
Monday

They're not gonna be convinced by detailed arguments about why it's not communism or whatever. They need to hear that it's a LIE.

Torchlight

(7,384 posts)
20. I'm a member of the Democratic party
Mon Jul 6, 2026, 02:56 PM
Monday

No excuses. No justifications. No qualifiers.

The divisions within today's Democratic Party are real and I don't ignore them or pretend they don't exist. But the narrative from the right that these disagreements signal the party's collapse is exaggerated and designed to dominate the conversation. As the midterms approach, conservatives have every incentive to amplify Democratic infighting while deflecting attention from the elephants in the room: higher gas prices, higher grocery bills, and stagnant wages.

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