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CousinIT

(12,929 posts)
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 12:57 PM Saturday

Nazis weren't just in Germany or Europe. They were here and very much still are here.



Features like this one, which detail American history, including the ugly parts of it, are why Trump and Republicans defunded PBS (and what does that tell us about them?). And it's why I contribute money to PBS every month.

Recommended companion reading: The Nazi Hydra in America

""This is a valuable history of the relationship between big business in the United States and European fascism, before, during, and after the second World War." -Howard Zinn
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Nazis weren't just in Germany or Europe. They were here and very much still are here. (Original Post) CousinIT Saturday OP
Bound Brook and New Brunswick New Jersey JustAnotherGen Saturday #1
Yaphank, NY, as well. Raine1967 Saturday #5
They're still in Germany, but hidden. no_hypocrisy Saturday #2
I thing we delude ourselves to believe they exist in any real Melon Saturday #3
Trump's father was arrested for marching in a KKK rally and Patriot front marched in DC today for the 4th. ChicagoTeamster Saturday #4
"the relationship between big business in the United States and ... fascism"... CousinIT Saturday #6
Fascism is Top-Down Revolution Kid Berwyn 22 hrs ago #17
Thank you. This has SO much relevance to where we are today. CousinIT 22 hrs ago #18
Thanks CousinIT canetoad Saturday #7
That's a good watch duckworth969 Saturday #8
I have a book about San Francisco in the 20th century and one of books has a picture of a Nazi kimbutgar Saturday #9
They were everywhere here. I think they're ... CousinIT Yesterday #11
Stamp Out the Turd Reich Kid Berwyn Saturday #10
NAZI Hydra in America (excerpts PDF) Kid Berwyn Yesterday #12
THANK YOU! CousinIT Yesterday #13
You are most welcome. Found complete work online... Kid Berwyn Yesterday #15
Wow. Thank you again! CousinIT 22 hrs ago #16
Operation paperclip. Blue Full Moon Yesterday #14
Now they wear different clothes and use different terminology. Behind the Aegis 18 hrs ago #19

Raine1967

(11,705 posts)
5. Yaphank, NY, as well.
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 02:29 PM
Saturday

I would love to see the names of all the members of the German American Bundts. I believe I may have had family members who participated.

no_hypocrisy

(55,833 posts)
2. They're still in Germany, but hidden.
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:15 PM
Saturday

In 1979, I was taken to the middle of German woods for "Jaegerfest". On the surface, it looked like a picnic with roasted meat, bread, and of course, beer.

And the German Jaegers (Royal Huntsmen) started singing Hitler Fight Songs with gusto.

Then in 1989, again, I was Germany at a private home. I was taken downstairs to the cellar. There in a glass case was Hitler paraphernalia: belt buckles, small daggers, medals.

There are third generations of Hitler devotees in Germany and they're waiting for support from Trump, the Proud Boys, Steve Bannon, and the like to take over again.

Melon

(1,975 posts)
3. I thing we delude ourselves to believe they exist in any real
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:26 PM
Saturday

Numbers. True Nazis, kkk, etc are very rare and mostly hide it all as they aren’t accepted by anyone.
I am a collector of things and I’ve seen large collections of war bring backs, including Nazi. The collectors aren’t nazi’s nor do they follow it as a party, they are simply collecting because they are history buffs.

ChicagoTeamster

(1,533 posts)
4. Trump's father was arrested for marching in a KKK rally and Patriot front marched in DC today for the 4th.
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 02:15 PM
Saturday

CousinIT

(12,929 posts)
6. "the relationship between big business in the United States and ... fascism"...
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 04:30 PM
Saturday

Elon Musk
Mark Zuckerberg
Jeff Bezos
Rupert Murdoch
Larry Ellison and spawn
Marc Andreesen
Peter Thiel

etc.
etc.

It's still a problem. Moreso now than perhaps ever. Or, here we go again.

Kid Berwyn

(25,617 posts)
17. Fascism is Top-Down Revolution
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 12:49 PM
22 hrs ago

From the Preface:

Excerpt…

In the second chapter it will be shown that how fascism is unique in not requiring a shooting revolution and can arise out of a nature degenerative process of a democratic capitalistic society. Since fascism is a top down movement all that is required is that the elite of that society begin to concentrate their power without regards to the masses. Thus all fascist need do is to corrupt the political and economic processes to begin their march to a totalitarian state. They can do so with spreading forth propaganda to discredit the government the schools, the media, the scientists, the courts and the remainder of the very institutions that have made America great. Once they have created a critical mass of distrust in the public then they are free to begin the process of concentration of power. This is the approach that the hard right and Republican Party has followed since the election of Reagan in 1980. It is a gradual process that can easily be cloaked until it's too late. The purveyors of fascism are free to mask much of the concentration under the banner of capitalism. Such as the consolidation of the media, which is today nothing more than the mouth- piece for corporate America.

Source: The NAZI Hydra in America

https://archive.org/details/pdfy-kRjTPUdAxESumEWq/page/n3/mode/2up?q=Top+down

CousinIT

(12,929 posts)
18. Thank you. This has SO much relevance to where we are today.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 12:57 PM
22 hrs ago

You can read what's happened to America in just that paragraph from the preface of the book. We are in a fascist mess.

canetoad

(21,270 posts)
7. Thanks CousinIT
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 04:44 PM
Saturday

I'll watch that later on. A year or so ago there was another PBS American Experience show called "The Eugenics Crusade" - it's on YouTube and is a frightening video on the movement to - well, apply eugenics nationally in the US.

kimbutgar

(27,751 posts)
9. I have a book about San Francisco in the 20th century and one of books has a picture of a Nazi
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 06:50 PM
Saturday

Rally in our SF city hall. I found it at a flea market and brought it especially for that picture !

CousinIT

(12,929 posts)
11. They were everywhere here. I think they're ...
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 09:20 AM
Yesterday

...still here but are more visible now because Orange Don gave them a permission structure.

They're not a majority, but they are loud and blood lust ruthless especially with a rabid Dear Leader encouraging them.

I'm noticing that in America, whenever we start hearing about "communists" around every corner, in every crack and crevice, and under every bed, we're simultaneously also seeing a rise in virulent embedded fascism. Somehow, I don't think that's a coincidence.

Blue Full Moon

(3,826 posts)
14. Operation paperclip.
Sun Jul 5, 2026, 10:05 AM
Yesterday

Brought over to get technical information, should have done what USSR did and not make them into heroes. The NASA site use to have about Von Braun. They sanitized the website and rehabilitated his image.
They brought those Un-American thugs here to help the Un-American Activities Commission. Not to mention the Bush family connections and 2 of them were elected as president.

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