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Coventina

(30,082 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 04:56 PM Monday

There's One Clear Reason Americans Are Gloomy About A.I.

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Different generations feel pinched in different ways. For younger Americans — who are most likely to be working in gigs, early-career jobs or positions most exposed to A.I. substitution — the absence of an income floor is the threat. (Note that there is recent research suggesting remote work also has held young people back, but A.I. is still a factor.)

For workers in their 40s and 50s with families, mortgages and ongoing health care needs, the American safety net fails even more comprehensively. Blame employer-linked health care. Every other rich country in the survey — including Germany, France, Japan, Australia, Canada and Britain — provides health care independently of one’s job. Losing your job in those countries means losing income. Losing your job in America means losing income and health coverage simultaneously, often for an entire family.

Job loss in the United States is more threatening than anywhere else in the wealthy world. It turns what should be a setback into a potential cascade — income, insurance, mortgage and child care, all at risk at once. Meanwhile, A.I. chief executives won’t stop telling Americans A.I. is coming for them. The technology is a missile aimed at the most fragile part of the American socioeconomic bargain.

No wonder Americans are pessimistic about A.I. While better messaging will not fix this, decoupling health care from employment might. Building an unemployment insurance system that replaces income at a meaningful level might. Americans’ pessimism about A.I. is largely rational, about a technology tailor-made to crack their crumbling and antiquated social compact.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/25/opinion/ai-americans-pessimism.html?

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Fuck AI and Fuck AI apologists!

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RockRaven

(20,110 posts)
1. People should be pessimistic about AI for a different reason: because
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 04:59 PM
Monday

they people behind it are fucking liars and con artists.

orthoclad

(5,280 posts)
8. In the West, greedy con artists
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:45 PM
Monday

like Zuck and Musk and Bezos.
Capitalism promotes psychopaths to the top. They maximize profit.
Thieves are promoting AI in the West. Property, human rights, and consequences be damned: just show that quarterly profit.
Autonomous killers? Check. No worse than self-driving cars. Biggest profits are from Pentagon largesse, the biggest spigot in the world.
Creative effort? The sum total of human endeavor through history is skimmed and stolen.
Social stability? Don't make HAL laugh.
Human welfare? Only certain humans: the psychopaths on top.

The Apple won't fall far.

Ziggysmom

(4,194 posts)
3. I don't know if the bad outweighs the good. As a computer analyst I don't mind cheating to
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 06:39 PM
Monday

get help with complex Excel formulas. I’ve used it to look over some emails and presentations, where some of the AI advice was good and I was able to use it. It’s good for helping me brainstorming and coming up with new ideas. The fun stuff like finding recipes or summarizing novels is pretty cool. But it can get off topic and kinda creepy. Dont ask stupid questions about subjects like love, religion or death. I worry most of corporations using AI to deny employment or insurance; though they do those things to us already without AI

anciano

(2,357 posts)
5. Excellent post.....
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 07:12 PM
Monday

I also have found AI to be useful for obtaining information, evaluating ideas, and exploring options when used appropriately and responsibly.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,847 posts)
6. Yeah... like this.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 07:22 PM
Monday


This is why I am not a fan. The fact that there are folks out there who are trying to say that their 'efforts' are just as valid as those artists and musicians and actors who spent their lives doing the work.

If folks want to use it, fine. Don't keep trying to tell everyone that it is worth the same as those efforts that were completely human, though. It is not.

As one great meme stated, 'I wanted A.I. to take care of work and day to day chores so that I can concentrate on arts, music, and literature, not to take care of the arts, music, and literature so that I can concentrate on work!'

Blue Full Moon

(3,814 posts)
4. After they cause everyone to lose their jobs.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 07:03 PM
Monday

Who do they think will buy their shit. The tech bros are delusional.

RoeVWade

(968 posts)
7. Let's assume the 2nd worst case scenario, i.e., That AI will be able to do all human jobs not just some.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 07:32 PM
Monday

Might as well work on solutions backwards since all of us are still guessing where it ends. Some of you are surer than others but I'm not sure yet what the limits are.

How will we deal with that? How will we keep giving humans meaning.

highplainsdem

(63,823 posts)
9. Paul Kedrosky, who wrote that, is a venture capitalist and adviser to hedge funds, so of course he
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:40 PM
Monday

ignores all the other problems with genAI except its being a threat to jobs, which he says is more threatening because we don't have a social safety net equivalent to other countries'. He suggests Americans would like AI more if we had health care decoupled from employment, and much better unemployment insurance, but he has no suggestions for how we get there. I doubt he's suggesting much higher levels of taxation to the hedge fund managers he advises.

And it's completely unrealistic of him to ignore everything else harmful about genAI.

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