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markpkessinger

(8,952 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:59 AM Monday

I have been furious for several days after hearing about the false allegations against Pete Buttigieg . . .

Last edited Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:35 AM - Edit history (1)

. . . of inappropriate conduct with his children.

As I understand the details of the case, some guy anonymously called either CPS or police, and claimed that some woman he knows told him that she had met Pete Buttigieg as some event in Alabama, and that Buttigieg confessed to her that he had committed "unspeakable crimes" against his children, which led to CPS separating him from his family overnight, while they looked into the allegations.

Look, I get that agencies such as CPS want to err, if at all, on the side of protecting children. But at the same time, in the current climate, when people are so willing to weaponize anonymous allegations against public figures, these agencies should have to do substantially more vetting of allegations before subjecting any family to something like this.

I mean, think about it: some guy calls CPS or other law enforcement, claims that a friend of his told him that she had met a public figure, and that said public figure had confessed to "unspeakable crimes" against his children. So the guy is reporting not what he himself has heard or witnessed, but what some third party told him she heard the public figure heard. That wouldn't even be admissible in a criminal court case!

And then there's the [im]plausibility of it all. I mean, how plausible is it that a public figure who was actually guilty of abusing his kids would confess this to some random woman who claims she met him at some event? That alone should have been enough for CPS to determine that there was no basis for going forward!

Protect children? Sure, but recognize that subjecting their families to this kind of treatment without first adequately vetting the allegations carries its own set of harms to those same children and their families!

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I have been furious for several days after hearing about the false allegations against Pete Buttigieg . . . (Original Post) markpkessinger Monday OP
It is horrible. hlthe2b Monday #1
I read Pete's own account Blue Owl Monday #2
It does ck4829 Tuesday #21
As I said in another thread Jilly_in_VA Monday #3
I'm a generation and a half removed form the allegations against Buttigieg - Ms. Toad Monday #4
I'm not as 'pleasantly surprised' as you are..... MyOwnPeace Monday #16
We passed a bill in NYS last year to address this very issue Quiet Em Monday #5
I live in NYC, and was unaware of this . . . markpkessinger Monday #9
Which is what I said... that this crap happens all over America, everyday... OhioBack2Blue Monday #13
THAT is UGLY! MyOwnPeace Monday #17
Not only the harrassment TheProle Monday #15
Every time. They do this every time to our candidates. Baitball Blogger Monday #6
Just updated the OP to add the penultimate paragraph n/t markpkessinger Monday #7
One detail seems to be different - the supposed confession was "several years ago", and so not about his children muriel_volestrangler Monday #8
That does sound very off. Scott Alan Swaggerty Tuesday #24
I think the call was from someone associated with the GOP. Or with ties to the White House... QueerDuck Monday #10
Get Stephen Miller's phone records! MyOwnPeace Monday #18
Ha! Scott Alan Swaggerty Tuesday #22
Not outside of something they would do Scott Alan Swaggerty Tuesday #23
yeah, right to confront your accusers is supposed to b a thing. anonymous complaints mopinko Monday #11
We have to remember KT2000 Monday #12
Indeed Scott Alan Swaggerty Tuesday #25
The people responding to these false allegations need to be fired and fired immediately, if they react to false SWBTATTReg Monday #14
A lot of these bureaucrats can only think in a predefined box. BeneteauBum Monday #19
K&R Scott Alan Swaggerty Tuesday #20

hlthe2b

(115,270 posts)
1. It is horrible.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:07 AM
Monday

Forensic interviews of the children (4 years old) is bad enough, but at least they are well trained individuals-- despite being complete strangers to the kids.

I will say that I was so relieved that the interviews and lack of evidence otherwise ended the investigation with nothing but exculpatory findings so that these children were not put through more.

I hold my breath when I relate that I have seen small children brought by police and DFS into the ER to be examined by a physician or other trained staff-- based on these accusations--when initial interview findings determine it to be warranted. Even a busy ER overrun with other emergencies does react to these episodes--almost with a collective gasp. Thankfully, this did not happen to Buttigieg's children.

Blue Owl

(60,158 posts)
2. I read Pete's own account
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:07 AM
Monday

In it he said someone called 911 to report his children were in danger. I can’t believe that 911 wouldn’t be able to trace that call. Something stinks.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,760 posts)
3. As I said in another thread
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:16 AM
Monday

it would be far more realistic to call CPS on Stephen Miller and tell them he forced his children to learn fascist things and sleep hanging upside down in the basement!

Whoever called 911 on Buttegieg, their number should be traceable, but since it was in Alabummer, they won't do any such thing.

Ms. Toad

(38,915 posts)
4. I'm a generation and a half removed form the allegations against Buttigieg -
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:16 AM
Monday

And I'm both pleasantly surprised - and alarmed - at what I've seen of the public reaction.

As an early lesbian parent (my daughter turns 36 next month), one of the things always in the back of my mind was that even a biological relationship with my daughter would not protect my legal relationship with her from the bigotry of others. We were always just a complaint or two by someone who believed two women should not choose to have a child together. And, until long after she became an adult, she and my spouse were denied a legal relationship with each other at all.

I have not heard any (or at a minimum very little) about the possibility that this attack was because he is a gay man - something which would have been an immediate (correct) conclusion back when my daughter was the age of his twins. (Plenty of talk about it being politically motivated, but none that I have heard ties it to being motivated by his being gay.)

So that's the pleasant surprise - that it wasn't an immediate assumption that he was targeted because he is gay - and even that it might be right because he is gay.

But it is also the source of the alarm. LGBTQ people are currently under attack. Obergefell (and the rights to have relationships with both parents which came from t) is not stable ground on which to rest. Just as Roe was not. Long term, the same folks who plotted for two generations to overturn Roe are beginning their plot to overturn Obergefell . . . starting with the dramatically increased attacks on trans individuals.

The fact that this attack was politically motivated should always be coupled with the reality that he was targeted because he is a gay man - rather than viewing it merely as political.

MyOwnPeace

(17,686 posts)
16. I'm not as 'pleasantly surprised' as you are.....
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 01:30 PM
Monday

regarding whether it was ‘gay’ related or ‘politically’ related. And yes, there is reason to be alarmed. To be honest, I can see some demented ‘tRump-humper’ thinking he had just scored a double play - perking up the ears of MAGAs and homophobes everywhere.
Either way - they need to be SHUT DOWN - and we MUST do it at the polls in November - with a BLUE
TSUNAMI!

Quiet Em

(3,266 posts)
5. We passed a bill in NYS last year to address this very issue
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:22 AM
Monday

I believe it goes into effect this summer.

https://imprintnews.org/child-welfare-2/new-york-governor-signs-law-to-end-anonymous-reporting-of-child-maltreatment/269804

A friend of mine worked for CPS for years. My friend was frustrated often because while you need to take any tips on abuse seriously, bad actors out there did make false allegations as a way of harrassing people.

markpkessinger

(8,952 posts)
9. I live in NYC, and was unaware of this . . .
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:52 AM
Monday

. . . but it's good to know! Thanks for posting!

OhioBack2Blue

(234 posts)
13. Which is what I said... that this crap happens all over America, everyday...
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 01:01 PM
Monday

welcome to the hell...Privileged Pete.

If you weren't outraged BEFORE THIS.... wake the hell up people. This is exactly the kind garbage that average Americans are experiencing and furious about.

I got dragged into court over a loan I supposedly took out and never paid. The judge would not accept my real id or any proof as evidence when the clerk brought me to him, to get him to dismiss it, as mistaken identity, on the day I received the warrant. Judge stated, "I want to hear what the attorney has to say." White, male, cis, straight, christian judge was very snippy to me and uttered something about the righteousness of ZEALOUS lawyers.

So I spent 6 months, was forced to make 4 appearances, over a MISTAKEN IDENTITY! No less than 8 pieces of ID (different b-day, different sex, different race, different signature, different address, etc) and the judge would not dismiss it! The lawyer, who went thumbing through the "white pages" and landed on me as his next victim as he searched for the right FIRST NAME, LAST NAME similar to mine, was definitely on coke or some kind of upper when he showed up to the first court date. I was furious. My fiances were completely frozen by the judge for 6 months! Finally, after the 3 court appearance, the judge forced him to produce the loan paperwork at the 4 continuance, and the signature was not only not mine, it was a different middle initial, different sex, different race....etc.

The bastard lawyer didn't even have the damn paper work nearly the entire 6 months!

I immediately filed against a complaint with the bar association. Who basically responded with, "we don't care" and that "this doesn't reach the level that warrants anything be done" in a blue state! Blah, blah, blah...we want zealous lawyers....blah, blah, blah.

Welcome to the new world order. Guilty till proven innocent. Money over human beings. Perception over reality. Judgements and assumptions over facts. Christian nationalists and their bible is the new law.

MyOwnPeace

(17,686 posts)
17. THAT is UGLY!
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 01:36 PM
Monday

We have SO much to do to truly “Make America Great Again” - and this crowd ain’t doing it!

TheProle

(4,223 posts)
15. Not only the harrassment
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 01:21 PM
Monday

but tying up resources that could be investigating/acting on real cases. Thanks for the link. Rec'd.

Baitball Blogger

(52,923 posts)
6. Every time. They do this every time to our candidates.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:34 AM
Monday

And they know they will be found out but they hope the lie will stick in the minds of their supporters. And they will continue to do this until the Dems start suing them and get them to serve jail time.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,922 posts)
8. One detail seems to be different - the supposed confession was "several years ago", and so not about his children
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:44 AM
Monday

See https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143685291 - "The caller said that he had spoken to a woman who claimed to have met me at a conference several years ago in Alabama, where she said I told her that I had committed unspeakable violent crimes, and the caller believed my children were still at risk"

Whatever the "crimes" he was supposed to have confessed to were, I guess they involved children, or CPS wouldn't have had the nerve to separate his children from him and question them.

Yes, it's all a ridiculous heap of hearsay, and I think they must have found someone very homophobic and/or anti-Democrat in CPS for them to have tried this. This was in Michigan, as far as I can tell; I hope there's an investigation on how this got to separating his children from him for a day.

QueerDuck

(2,273 posts)
10. I think the call was from someone associated with the GOP. Or with ties to the White House...
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:53 AM
Monday

... I can't prove it, but that's what I think.

mopinko

(74,256 posts)
11. yeah, right to confront your accusers is supposed to b a thing. anonymous complaints
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:20 PM
Monday

r too often just personal grudges being prosecuted w the tax dollars of the accused.
i’ve had more than my fair share, and when ppl were told they needed to actually sign a complaint, poof.

KT2000

(22,283 posts)
12. We have to remember
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:30 PM
Monday

there are MAGATs in all agencies of the government. This decision was likely made by one of them in the CPS office.

SWBTATTReg

(26,537 posts)
14. The people responding to these false allegations need to be fired and fired immediately, if they react to false
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 01:09 PM
Monday

accusations rec'd via some random call or msg of abuse, w/o any confirmation of such acts. Such people should also be charged w/ making a false report. This is totally irresponsible.

BeneteauBum

(983 posts)
19. A lot of these bureaucrats can only think in a predefined box.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 02:05 PM
Monday

There is no question of plausibility……they just plod along and check off issues from a list.

Peace ☮️

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