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kentuck

(116,049 posts)
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 01:10 PM 20 hrs ago

The problem with these "screaming" headlines on YouTube and elsewhere...

....is that they are mostly for clickbait.

So what happens when there is a real "screaming" headline?

How will people know the difference?

Will it just be the little boy that cried "Wolf!"?

YouTube is especially bad with their headlines.

It is getting more and more difficult, not just to find information, but to also interpret it. If everything is "Breaking!", then nothing is breaking.

It makes it more difficult to keep up with the news. Soon, it all becomes a circus.

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The problem with these "screaming" headlines on YouTube and elsewhere... (Original Post) kentuck 20 hrs ago OP
it may have been breaking when it was posted , a few days ago rampartd 20 hrs ago #1
They will numb the intended audience at some point so that the "click bait" aspect no longer works hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #2
As we get deafer they get louder orthoclad 19 hrs ago #19
Yeah. Moonshot headlines on trivia orthoclad 20 hrs ago #3
But if I USE ALL CAPS to show how URGENT this is.... 68er 20 hrs ago #4
And add the big yellow arrows PatSeg 19 hrs ago #17
Especially if someone PANICS Auggie 18 hrs ago #24
CHECKMATE!!1! JoseBalow 17 hrs ago #35
We complain constantly, and accurately, that the right has a stranglehold on the Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #5
I'm glad you posted as I often forego thinking clearly about their value. Ilikepurple 18 hrs ago #23
Well, thank YOU for that. And I'll add one more thing. Of the two channels I named, the Bulwark and Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #28
I agree Figarosmom 17 hrs ago #30
You make a good point, and so have put a dent in my antipathy towards talking head YouTube videos chia 17 hrs ago #31
I am going to disagree Cirsium 17 hrs ago #33
So you would rather not have billions of views of Democratic news and opinions. Scrivener7 17 hrs ago #34
Maybe Cirsium 17 hrs ago #36
Not to mention the use of AI in the clickbait. Sneederbunk 20 hrs ago #6
Another problem with those headlines is that they make people who re-post them RockRaven 20 hrs ago #7
There is a lot of good information on some of those "click baits" hookaleft 20 hrs ago #8
Seriously? Ads anywhere give good information? Srkdqltr 18 hrs ago #26
That's a low bar Cirsium 17 hrs ago #37
Personally I just skip them and if something piques my interest in the title I'll google it to see if there is a story chowder66 20 hrs ago #9
WITHOUT CLICKBAIT THERE WOULD BE NO INTERNET! usonian 20 hrs ago #10
CALL YOUR CONGRESSCRITTER RIGHT FUCKING NOW!! madinmaryland 20 hrs ago #11
I feel berksdem 20 hrs ago #12
Our friends on the Youtube 'left' are just as guilty NeoTrajan 19 hrs ago #13
I'm sure a lot has to do with your algorithm... kentuck 19 hrs ago #14
The only YouTube channels I watch are live trials. I read the paper for news. Raftergirl 19 hrs ago #15
It's avoidable when you see the headline patterns BaronChocula 19 hrs ago #16
Sickening Matthew28 19 hrs ago #18
I've been avoiding clips Quanto Magnus 18 hrs ago #20
RIght? We've had so many "Bombshells" we should be FalloutShelter 18 hrs ago #21
If it has a yellow arrow, I ignore it. nt mcar 18 hrs ago #22
Absolutely correct. Buddyzbuddy 18 hrs ago #25
I just know the very moment "he's" dead, this country is going to erupt, releasing all the anti-American ffr 18 hrs ago #27
Am I just out-to-lunch because I don't bother? calimary 18 hrs ago #29
I avoid anything with blazing primary colors. tavernier 17 hrs ago #32
YEP!!!!! BurnDoubt 16 hrs ago #38

rampartd

(5,507 posts)
1. it may have been breaking when it was posted , a few days ago
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 01:13 PM
20 hrs ago

and i'm a little skeptical that trump is panicking about anything except a diet coke shortage.

i wish more of the stuff had big dates attached.

hlthe2b

(115,199 posts)
2. They will numb the intended audience at some point so that the "click bait" aspect no longer works
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 01:14 PM
20 hrs ago

I'm like that on those posted here because so many never even approach addressing the headline claim. I realize that it takes a lot for those making these videos to get "views," but surely they can at least address what they claim to cover.

orthoclad

(5,149 posts)
3. Yeah. Moonshot headlines on trivia
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 01:15 PM
20 hrs ago

Last edited Fri Jun 26, 2026, 02:49 PM - Edit history (1)

The screaming gets on my nerves. It's all noise, no signal. Another reason I don't do googletube.

More information in a fraction of the time from text articles.

68er

(39 posts)
4. But if I USE ALL CAPS to show how URGENT this is....
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 01:15 PM
20 hrs ago

...will you click on my link, please?

Scrivener7

(60,379 posts)
5. We complain constantly, and accurately, that the right has a stranglehold on the
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 01:22 PM
20 hrs ago

media and we bemoan the fact that we are not reaching people we need to reach. These "screaming headlines" reach those people. For example, Meidas Touch has 6.4 million subscribers and over TEN BILLION views. It routinely outpaces Joe Rogan for top podcast numbers, sometimes by 2x or 3x Rogan's numbers. For whatever reason, people like them. And they are spreading the message of the left.

The Bulwark has almost 2 million subscribers. Over ONE BILLION views.

I really wish people would just let our gift horses run.

Don't watch it if you don't like it. But they're valuable to us. They're reaching people.

Ilikepurple

(813 posts)
23. I'm glad you posted as I often forego thinking clearly about their value.
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 03:12 PM
18 hrs ago

I think this is important issue for us to have a dialogue about, as I was firmly OP’s camp until reading your response. It seems that I dislike these clickbait channels and their titles so much that I find it difficult to rationally think about their utility.
At first, the clickbait titles just offended my intellectual sensibilities but after many failed attempts to find the content that matches the titles, they pretty much elicit an unintended negative reaction that is more visceral than rational. These channels are obviously very popular and I forget others are discovering information or at least finding comfort in them. Thank you for pointing out that they have a pragmatic value beyond the intellectual umbrage they can evoke. I believe external dialogue is a key component in furthering one’s understanding of most issues, especially one’s we have become very emotional about. Thank you for sharing your understanding as it has sharpened mine.

Scrivener7

(60,379 posts)
28. Well, thank YOU for that. And I'll add one more thing. Of the two channels I named, the Bulwark and
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 03:38 PM
18 hrs ago

Meidas Touch, Meidas Touch is by far the more guilty of the click bait-y tactics, while the Bulwark is, in my opinion, the more informative channel. Yet Meidas Touch has ten times the viewership of The Bulwark. So for some people, those tactics work really well.

You and I read DU, so we often come to these videos having heard the news two or three days before. To us, it's almost never "breaking." But, given the subscription and viewer rates, it must be new information for a lot of people. This is perfect for us. These are exactly the people we need to reach.

Figarosmom

(14,729 posts)
30. I agree
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 03:58 PM
17 hrs ago

But I prefer the shorts and to see how old the news is I check the comments to see how long ago the short was posted. I also subscribe to those I like and get notifications so I know it's a new posting.

Some of the podcasts I admit do take a bit of time getting to the point, but that's so it's a long form news. Some are interviews just like on tv. These people get paid for these by the view so yeah, they are going to try and get you to click on their channel. IT'S A JOB.

So I pretty much ignore the headline just like I do with a newspaper. Most do have transcripts if you want to scroll down on the description section and read it.

I very rarely post anything in the long video form, I post shorts. And if I do post a longer one, I say it's a long video form.

chia

(2,856 posts)
31. You make a good point, and so have put a dent in my antipathy towards talking head YouTube videos
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 03:58 PM
17 hrs ago

I despise the screaming videos with a passion. Don't click on them, don't even want to look at the thumbnails. Don't need someone to spend 20 minutes talking over 30 seconds of news.

But... you're right about reaching a certain audience, and I'm all for that. So thank you for a new context.

Cirsium

(4,230 posts)
33. I am going to disagree
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 04:05 PM
17 hrs ago

I am a skeptic. There is no way to know if Meidas Touch and the Bulwark are effective at all. They may only be reaching ( and wasting the time of) the "already converted" so to speak.

The 24/7 Trump outrage machine is extremely lucrative $$$$ and a lot of players are capitalizing on that. I think there is a lot of grifting going on, and I think we are being played and taken advantage of by the constant barrage of Trump porn. How many people sitting in their den going in and on about the latest outrage from the administration do we need? One thing for sure - we are giving Trump a lot of free publicity and many people are scrambling to cash in on that.

Scrivener7

(60,379 posts)
34. So you would rather not have billions of views of Democratic news and opinions.
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 04:10 PM
17 hrs ago

We have to agree to disagree.

Cirsium

(4,230 posts)
36. Maybe
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 04:25 PM
17 hrs ago

We don't know if "views" translates into votes, or any activism. We do know views translate into $$$$. I think that it is displacing more constructive and useful discussion, and I doubt that it is reaching, let alone converting, anyone who is not already on board.

RockRaven

(20,062 posts)
7. Another problem with those headlines is that they make people who re-post them
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 01:25 PM
20 hrs ago

look like a dumbass. And contrary to appearances, I do not actually like believing so many people are dumbasses.

hookaleft

(1,400 posts)
8. There is a lot of good information on some of those "click baits"
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 01:27 PM
20 hrs ago

So much better than the fucking commercials on legacy media

Cirsium

(4,230 posts)
37. That's a low bar
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 04:43 PM
17 hrs ago

Commercials on legacy media?

One has to wade through thousands of minutes of someone sitting at their desk droning on to glean anything useful, at least with the videos that get posted here.

Tune in to Urban View radio and you'll get more useful information in a day than you can get in a months worth of YouTube videos.

I think a lot of the 'Tubers are just pandering to people who were already going to vote Democratic, telling us what we want to hear and making money from that.

chowder66

(12,703 posts)
9. Personally I just skip them and if something piques my interest in the title I'll google it to see if there is a story
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 01:28 PM
20 hrs ago

from a legitimate source. If I can't find anything I may see if there is a synopsis of the video below or look at comments to see if I can glean anything from it to do another search.

If I can't find anything, I move on.

I don't do this very often because most of the time I know it's probably about something I've already run across or read about.

usonian

(27,174 posts)
10. WITHOUT CLICKBAIT THERE WOULD BE NO INTERNET!
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 01:38 PM
20 hrs ago

Easy enough to ignore. I *do* ignore 90% of it.

Of the 10% or less that contains some facts, I have a workflow for generating readable transcripts, and do so in those rare but valuable vids. (and post them )

My un-favorite is Mark Romano, who manages to cram two sentences worth of information into a 30 minute video.

berksdem

(940 posts)
12. I feel
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 01:53 PM
20 hrs ago

like magasmash is a fine example of this: posting videos every single day w ridiculously misleading headlines.

NeoTrajan

(92 posts)
13. Our friends on the Youtube 'left' are just as guilty
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 02:03 PM
19 hrs ago

"Panicked"
"Collapsing"

Nah ... That's not happening

I've come close to blocking the Occupy Democrats YT channel for their breathless, hair-on-fire declarations ... David Reddish especially... But no, I haven't because they are fellow travelers....

Not a fan

kentuck

(116,049 posts)
14. I'm sure a lot has to do with your algorithm...
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 02:06 PM
19 hrs ago

Every algorithm is differrent.

If you click on Google for example, for anything, and then you click on YouTube, you may find that very subject matter, and similar ones, in your new algorithm. They follow you like a bloodhound.

I have grown accustomed to them but I wish they would put a time-stamp on them so I didn't have to look at the same posts, just with a different headline, and whether or not it is AI. I tend to dismiss AI, for whatever reason. I just know I do not trust them. I want to see real people with the "real" words they say, not a voice over with made up script.

It's easy to be tricked anymore.

Raftergirl

(1,904 posts)
15. The only YouTube channels I watch are live trials. I read the paper for news.
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 02:14 PM
19 hrs ago

Most of these other channels only care how many subscribers they can get - and the more outrageous and hyperbolic the headline is, the more subscribers, members, merch they can sell, and ad revenue they will get. It’s all about monetizing.

BaronChocula

(4,975 posts)
16. It's avoidable when you see the headline patterns
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 02:36 PM
19 hrs ago

TRUMP HUMILIATED
MAGA GETS CRUSHED
TRUMP'S HUGE HEALTH COLLAPSE

Etc. While normal headlines often feature some drama, they aren't typically that sensational. Some people may enjoy those clips. I just choose to skip 'em.

Quanto Magnus

(1,422 posts)
20. I've been avoiding clips
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 02:54 PM
18 hrs ago

where the presenter's thumbnail has them holding their head in 'shock'..... Presenters think this is getting clicks??? I certainly hope not.

That is one of the most annoying poses right now.....

ffr

(23,459 posts)
27. I just know the very moment "he's" dead, this country is going to erupt, releasing all the anti-American
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 03:26 PM
18 hrs ago

oppression we Americans have been feeling. It's going to be an undeclared holiday of at least one, maybe two or more days!

So, yeah, 'His worst nightmare' headlines are simply clickbait. But we'll know when the screaming headline is real, because Americans will be pouring out into the streets to celebrate.

calimary

(91,449 posts)
29. Am I just out-to-lunch because I don't bother?
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 03:46 PM
18 hrs ago

I can’t remember the last time one of those headlines sucked me all the way in.

Still a “news junkie”, though. They may get a glance from me, but usually nothing more.

BurnDoubt

(1,944 posts)
38. YEP!!!!!
Fri Jun 26, 2026, 05:30 PM
16 hrs ago

Pulpy sensationalism crowding out actual news and no real substance to flesh-out flimzy fever dreams.

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