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Pluvious

(5,479 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 11:43 AM Jun 19

ICYMI: Hunter Biden's response to Joe Rogan bitching about haters of the UFC fights at our White House

Reminder: President Obama once wore a tan suit,
and the First Lady planted a vegetable garden

The Right went apoplectic in relentless outrage

Dear Joe,

I wish I could sit down with you face to face and explain why so many of us were offended by the UFC fight on the South Lawn of the White House.

For me, it had nothing to do with the UFC or who showed up for the fights. The brand you and Dana have built is a bona fide American success story. More power to you. As for the fighters, in my book, anyone brave enough to put it all on the line in the arena is remarkable to witness. Their dedication and discipline inspire me. I don’t understand anyone who can’t admire that.

And as for the people who attended, I, for one, love Shane Gillis. I think he’s hilarious and brilliant. It was a show. A once-in-a-lifetime spectacle. I can’t blame anyone for wanting to witness it firsthand.

My problem is that I believe some of our public spaces are sacred. And unlike many of the great powers that came before us, these American monuments belong to all of us. Not to whoever happens to hold power at the moment.

The White House does not belong to Donald Trump. It does not belong to any President. It belongs to the people. To treat it as Caesar treated the Colosseum is antithetical to everything our founding fathers fought for.

This is not Rome. Presidents are not emperors doling out bread and circuses for the peasants. The White House is the People’s House. This “celebration” could have happened in any stadium within a stone’s throw of the South Lawn. No one would have had an issue with it.

But that was obviously Donald Trump’s whole point. By holding the event on the South Lawn, what he was saying to the rest of us is:

“This is my house. I own it. I will do with it what I please. I’ll build a colosseum and have the gladiators fight under my gaze. I’ll tear down the East Wing. I’ll pave over the Rose Garden. I’ll cover everything in gold and marble. I’ll erase the names of all the men who came before me.”

The fights were an exhibition of imperial domination, not a celebration of our 250th anniversary as a democracy.

The White House is not Buckingham Palace. It is not the Palace of Versailles. It is not the Forbidden City of Beijing. It does not belong to an emperor, or a king, or a commissar.

The White House belongs to us. All of us. The person who sits behind the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office is nothing more than an honored guest. A temporary caretaker.

The President is our servant. Not our Caesar.

Respectfully, Hunter

P.S. Cage match between me and Don Jr.? Your call on the venue. Anywhere but the South Lawn.



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ICYMI: Hunter Biden's response to Joe Rogan bitching about haters of the UFC fights at our White House (Original Post) Pluvious Jun 19 OP
He is more and more impressive... Spazito Jun 19 #1
Hunter nails it, again, in his eloquent and straightforward way dlk Jun 19 #2
Hunter is smart, Joe Rogan is a poser. dem4decades Jun 19 #3
Good for Hunter Biden. sheshe2 Jun 19 #4
Great response by Hunter. Ritabert Jun 19 #5
Cage match..... SergeStorms Jun 19 #6
Oh Yeah !! Don, Cocaine nose, Jr. is down in 2 secs dave99 Jun 19 #20
Spot on Cosmocat Jun 19 #7
Palace of Versailles - - Trump would love to have all that gold. progressoid Jun 19 #8
Will Rogan get it? Figarosmom Jun 19 #9
Rogan is just a fucking coward anyway. Scalded Nun Jun 19 #10
Why is anyone paying attention to the ''Manisphere'', they seem to get everything wrong ... aggiesal Jun 19 #11
Like talking to a billion $ wall BaronChocula Jun 19 #12
I'd alter Hunter's analogy slightly. It was more like Caesar's Palace in Vegas than Caesar's Colosseum in Rome ChicagoTeamster Jun 19 #13
Very cogent and collegial response by Hunter Bluetus Jun 19 #14
Maybe Rogan should shut the fuck up. hadEnuf Jun 19 #15
Then Rogan will make no money dave99 Jun 19 #21
Rogan is yet another... GiqueCee Jun 19 #16
BRA EFFING VO Faux pas Jun 19 #17
I for one find nothing admirable about cage fighting. Boomerproud Jun 19 #18
Me neither. But I like the way Cha Jun 19 #22
Missed it by this much... LessAspin Jun 19 #19
Ha! Don Jr. challenged? What will he do? GoodRaisin Jun 19 #23
Biden forgot to say that stuff is totally fake, like Republicans 4 trump msongs Jun 19 #24
My opinion of Hunter Biden continues to rise everytime he posts. patphil Jun 19 #25
It's nuanced. Wednesdays Jun 19 #26
so very true it hurts sometimes. nt. druidity33 Jun 19 #28
Can anyone imagine if Obama and/or Biden had this clown show on the front lawn? vapor2 Jun 19 #27
A brilliant letter cloudbase Jun 19 #29
Wow, wow, wow. Joinfortmill Jun 19 #30
Getting mad about this kind of stuff gains us nothing. nt BootinUp Jun 19 #31
That puts things in its proper perspective mdbl Jun 19 #32
Count me among the many who have a new admiration and respect for Hunter Biden. summer_in_TX Jun 20 #33
Why anybody pays any attention to Joe Rogan is beyond me. He called Obama "the best president ever" then..... FadedMullet Jun 20 #34
Hunter Biden's use of the English language should make Trump hide under his desk in shame. FadedMullet Jun 20 #35
"This is not Rome" Ray Bruns Jun 20 #36

Spazito

(56,471 posts)
1. He is more and more impressive...
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 11:48 AM
Jun 19

the way he addresses the right-wing whining is to explain, as one would to a child, the facts behind the outrage being felt by the public regardless of party.

Excellent rebuttal yet again.

dlk

(13,452 posts)
2. Hunter nails it, again, in his eloquent and straightforward way
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 12:05 PM
Jun 19

I wish him every good thing. He has more than earned it.

SergeStorms

(21,062 posts)
6. Cage match.....
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 01:00 PM
Jun 19

between Hunter and Don Jr.

Now there's something I'd pay to see (all money going to a predetermined charity).

Hunter would kick Junior's ass!

Cosmocat

(15,522 posts)
7. Spot on
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 01:11 PM
Jun 19

They lost their bloody minds over countless stupid shit like the suit, a vegetable garden, his putting a basketball hoop up ... But, we are just a bunch of haters for all the crazy shit he is is doing to the place?

And, Hunter drills down on it accurately, its like a dog taking a piss on the neighbors mailbox to stake claim to it.

progressoid

(53,570 posts)
8. Palace of Versailles - - Trump would love to have all that gold.
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 01:32 PM
Jun 19

Ironically, he doesn't seem to know what all gold cost it's occupants.

aggiesal

(11,002 posts)
11. Why is anyone paying attention to the ''Manisphere'', they seem to get everything wrong ...
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 01:56 PM
Jun 19

and making a ton of $$$ from their wrongness.

BaronChocula

(4,976 posts)
12. Like talking to a billion $ wall
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 02:02 PM
Jun 19

Rogan has no moral center. He was against the whole Circus of Trash 250 before he joined up.

But good that Biden expresses how idiotic this all was.

ChicagoTeamster

(1,481 posts)
13. I'd alter Hunter's analogy slightly. It was more like Caesar's Palace in Vegas than Caesar's Colosseum in Rome
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 02:05 PM
Jun 19

With Trump seeing himself as the Mob Boss. But great description of how the event itself being held at the people's house demonstrated Trump's takeover and warping of America's democracy and it's institutions into his personal business to be run as unethically and un-American as Trump sees fit to do so.

Bluetus

(3,329 posts)
14. Very cogent and collegial response by Hunter
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 02:19 PM
Jun 19

He has come a rugged path in his life -- not that different from Bob Kennedy. But unlike Bob, Hunter is emerging as an improved person. I welcome his voice. He was a vehicle for great damage to our country. Now that he has a solid public voice, I hope this will cause some people to re-examine why they were so angry about Hunter in the past.

The American story is one of redemption, at least for most of us. Most of us do not believe that any noble goal is served when government executes criminals, even the worst among us. While we may not expect redemption from a serial rapist or murderer or sex trafficker, most of us do believe in humane treatment, and the hope that some measure of redemption is possible.

Hunter is on a remarkable path and I hope he continues speak, not as a political partisan, but as an advocate for decency , democracy, and doing the right things.

GiqueCee

(5,077 posts)
16. Rogan is yet another...
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 02:41 PM
Jun 19

... asshole who thinks being offensive is his "brand". That he's gotten rich off it says nothing good about the judgement or character of those who listen to him. That there are so fucking many of them does not reflect well on America in the eyes of those in more civilized countries.

Cha

(321,585 posts)
22. Me neither. But I like the way
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 05:38 PM
Jun 19

Hunter made it clear it wasn't about the damn Stupid cage match.

It was eloquently put that it was about where the hell PEDO put it in our face; desecrating the South Lawn of our WH

LessAspin

(2,128 posts)
19. Missed it by this much...
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 05:12 PM
Jun 19
133 million




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OPINION: Hunter Biden bashed Joe Rogan for praising the UFC fights at the White House, with Biden calling it "antithetical to everything our Founding Fathers fought for." #HunterBiden #JoeRogan #UFCFreedom250

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GoodRaisin

(11,189 posts)
23. Ha! Don Jr. challenged? What will he do?
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 05:39 PM
Jun 19

I suspect Don Jr.’s sisters can whip his ass. Djaco?

patphil

(9,344 posts)
25. My opinion of Hunter Biden continues to rise everytime he posts.
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 07:10 PM
Jun 19

He's got a lot of his father in him, plus an in-your-face attitude that I really like.

vapor2

(5,142 posts)
27. Can anyone imagine if Obama and/or Biden had this clown show on the front lawn?
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 07:15 PM
Jun 19

Republicans would lose their minds and then some. As for Rogan, he can STFU

summer_in_TX

(4,372 posts)
33. Count me among the many who have a new admiration and respect for Hunter Biden.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:45 AM
Jun 20

Brilliantly done! The tone of respect was disarming and one that would not make Joe Rogan or his many listeners take offense and be unable to hear the point he was making.

I loved his quip at the end. A joke to end on a light note. Astute social skills as well as empathy for others who don’t have it all together.

I deduce that all his own eff*ups has given him the grace to see that others’ mistakes don’t define them. After all, if he could be so far down in a hell of his own making and not only recover but emerge with a hard-won wisdom and grace then others can too.

FadedMullet

(1,091 posts)
34. Why anybody pays any attention to Joe Rogan is beyond me. He called Obama "the best president ever" then.....
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 01:26 AM
Jun 20

......endorsed Trump. What a maroon.

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