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malaise

(299,638 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 05:31 PM Jun 18

Why do so many American politicians and journalists believe

that other sovereign countries don’t have the same rights to weapons and self defense as does the US?
It is the US that interfered with Iran’s democracy on behalf of the oil barons. Then we call them the terrorists.

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Why do so many American politicians and journalists believe (Original Post) malaise Jun 18 OP
You need to take these words out - 'Iran's democracy' Intractable Jun 18 #1
I think Malaise is referring to back in the 50s when we installed the shah fargone Jun 18 #2
I'll rec this post. Intractable Jun 18 #4
Correct malaise Jun 19 #10
Perhaps now... GiqueCee Jun 18 #3
Countries that start wars without just cause should not have nukes Martin Eden Jun 19 #5
Rec malaise Jun 19 #6
The current Iran regime are terrorist edhopper Jun 19 #7
Only country to ever use a nuclear weapon saying who an have one. Rafi Jun 19 #8
THIS malaise Jun 19 #9
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 19 #11

GiqueCee

(5,072 posts)
3. Perhaps now...
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 05:59 PM
Jun 18

... but not in 1953, when the Central Intelligence Agency, quite full of itself after rising from the ashes of the Office of Strategic Services, agreed to help Britain steal Iran's oil reserves for itself by deposing the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED president of Iran, Mohammad Mossadegh, because he refused to bend the knee to Britain and cede his country's natural resources to a thieving imperialist nation trying desperately to still embody the once-heralded motto, The Sun Never Sets on the British Empire, by imposing its will on what would have been a staunch Western Ally.
Instead, Mossadegh died under house arrest; and the "Shah" of Iran was installed, despite pretty sketchy bona fides, as the new pet leader of Iran, with the help of his savage SAVAK secret police.
THIS is why, after 73 years, we're still in conflict with our fellow Caucasians, the Iranians: Stupidity, malice, and greed, now writ large by the worst president in our nation's history. They have every reason to distrust the US. As long as we try to maintain the false conceit that "we're the good guys", the enmity will live on.

Martin Eden

(16,059 posts)
5. Countries that start wars without just cause should not have nukes
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 09:24 AM
Jun 19

Russia and the USA top that list.

However, that would make them vulnerable to nuclear blackmail from adversarial nations with nukes.

There is something to be said for the Mutually Assured Destruction that likely prevented the Cold War from exploding into WW3.

There is also something to be said for the failure of nations on this planet to get rid of nuclear weapons all together (two words on purpose).

edhopper

(37,703 posts)
7. The current Iran regime are terrorist
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 09:47 AM
Jun 19

they are a fundamentalist Islamic state that sponsors global terrorism. They are brutal to their own populace.
Obama did the right thing with his treaty, stopping them from getting a nuclear weapon.
That said, there is zero justification for Trumps attack on them, and in this conflict, we are the bad guys.

Rafi

(293 posts)
8. Only country to ever use a nuclear weapon saying who an have one.
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 11:47 AM
Jun 19

Kinda ironic or just plain bs.

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