Zelensky's "peace initiative" was..."GTFO of Ukraine,,,,then we'll talk about war reparations". Because, now, Ukraine is the strongest, most capable army in Europe - in this moment.,

... This is to cut off alternate routes to the Kerch Bridge, which seems to me Ukraine is leaving up to be the only easy way in or out of Crimea. With eight million Russians living in Crimea, leaving a reasonable exit corridor is a smart, humanitarian option.

Then we'll see if Russia blows up Putin's prize billion dollar bridge.

Major land route from Russia into Crimea, under control by Ukraine. Ferries are toast. Kerch Bridge is pretty much under Ukraine control. Russian Air Defense and Electronic Warfare capabilities are getting eroded daily.

At some point Ukraine will announce a Russian exit from Crimea....they probably won't kick them in the ass on the way out.

... shooting them as they leave is cross purposes and has a bad look to the rest of the world.

Now the Afghans shot the shit out of the Russians as the majority of them marched out. Just gave the Red Army a thorough savaging all the way nonstop.

And TACO thinks Biden screwed up US evacuation of Afghanistan. Hundreds of Russians died on their way out.


Attacks on departing Soviet personnel

The withdrawal of the Soviet military began on 15 May 1988, under the leadership of General of the Army Valentin Varennikov (with General Gromov commanding the 40th Army directly).[5]: 368  As agreed, the withdrawal was "front-loaded", with half of the Soviet force leaving by August. The withdrawal was complicated, however, by the rapid deterioration of the situation in Afghanistan. While the United States was not bound by any commitment to stop arms shipments and continued to supply the Afghan mujahideen in Pakistan, the latter was not delivering on its commitment to prevent weaponry and militants from flowing into Afghanistan through the Durand Line. Likewise, the mujahideen also continued their attacks on withdrawing Soviet forces.[4]: 150  The Soviet Union repeatedly reported these violations of the Geneva Accords to United Nations monitoring bodies, and even pleaded with the United States to influence the factions that they were supplying. The desire of the Soviet Union to withdraw, however, coupled with the United States' inability to control the behaviour of the mujahideen, meant that the Soviet objections did not yield any results.

As the Soviet military withdrawal and rebel attacks continued, the deteriorating security of the Najibullah government caused policy disagreements between the different services of the Soviet Union. For example: while the Soviet military had succeeded in establishing a de facto cease-fire with Ahmad Shah Massoud's forces as Soviet troops withdrew through territories under his control, the KGB and Shevardnadze attempted to convince Gorbachev that an attack on Massoud was necessary to guarantee Najibullah's survival. In the words of Soviet military commanders, Najibullah himself also aimed to retain the Soviet military in Afghanistan – Generals Varennikov (in charge of the withdrawal operation), Gromov (commander of the 40th Army), and Sotskov (chief Soviet military advisor in Afghanistan) all pleaded with top Soviet military and political leadership to control Najibullah's attempts to use Soviet troops to achieve his own security, and to convey to him that the Soviet military would not stay in Afghanistan.[4]: 161  After the departure of Yakovlev from the Politburo in the fall of 1988[clarification needed], Gorbachev adopted the Shevardnadze-KGB line of policy regarding supporting Najibullah at the cost of antagonising rebel factions, and a halt of the withdrawal was ordered on November 5, 1988.[4][8]: 167  In December, Gorbachev decided to resume the withdrawal, but also to carry out an operation against Massoud, ignoring arguments from his advisors and military commanders on the ground. In January 1989, the Soviet withdrawal continued, and on January 23 Operation Typhoon began against the forces of Ahmad Shah Massoud.[4]: 170  Up until the end of the military withdrawal, Shevardnadze and the head of the KGB unsuccessfully attempted to convince Gorbachev to retain a contingent of Soviet military volunteers in Afghanistan to defend land routes to Kabul. On February 15, the 40th Army finished their withdrawal from Afghanistan. General Gromov walked across the "Bridge of Friendship" between Afghanistan and the USSR last. When Gromov was met by Soviet TV crews while crossing the bridge, he swore at them profusely when they tried to interview him. Recalling the events in an interview with a Russian newspaper in 2014, Gromov said that his words were directed at "the leadership of the country, at those who start wars while others have to clean up the mess."[9]

Soviet support for the Najibullah government did not end with the withdrawal of the regular troops. Aid totalling several billion dollars was sent by the Soviet Union to Afghanistan, including military aircraft (MiG-27s) and Scud missiles.[6]: 123  Due primarily to this aid, the Najibullah government held onto power for much longer than the CIA and State Department expected. The mujahideen made considerable advances following the withdrawal of the Soviet contingent, and were even able to take and control several cities; nevertheless, they failed to unseat Najibullah until the spring of 1992.[6]: 124  Following the coup of August 1991, the Soviet Union (and later the Russian Federation under Boris Yeltsin) cut aid to their Afghan allies. This had a severe impact on the Hizb-i Watan (formerly known as the PDPA), and on the armed forces, already weakened by their fight against the mujahideen and internal struggles – following an abortive coup attempt in March 1990, the Army (already encountering a critical lack of resources and critical rates of desertion) was purged. Ultimately, the cessation of Soviet aid and the instability that it caused allowed the mujahideen to storm Kabul.[7]: 248  [10]: 9  Najibullah was removed from power by his own party, after which the mujahideen futilely attempted to form a stable coalition government.[7]: 251  Disagreements and infighting between the likes of Massoud and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar set the stage for the eventual rise of the Taliban.

Because Ukrainians aren't Russians.

That's the truth.

Actually, Ukrainians suffered the worst atrocities by Russians. That is history.

... and that is why Ukraine has accommodatingly left the Kerch standing.

Let alone what revenge a crazed despot with chemical and nuclear weapons might do in a desperate effort to have a last word. Like take out a couple of Ukraine nuclear generation plants. A couple of dams over some cities. I never meant to suggest that Ukraine should/would go all mujahedin/Talibani on retreating Russians.

The big difference between Russia and Ukraine is Ukraine wants to engage with the world and Russian wants to gather it under its aegis.

Russia also needs to worry about Chinese interests in Siberia. They just might drop Ukraine like a hot potato to deal with Chinese intentions to expand into Russian ans Russia allied countries.

Another war crime that effects a lot of Europe.