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pat_k

(14,002 posts)
Thu May 28, 2026, 03:54 PM Thursday

Oh goody! Our president only has mild-to-moderate dementia.

Last edited Thu May 28, 2026, 06:21 PM - Edit history (5)

The world can breath a sigh of relief.


If they are giving him the standard 30-question MMSE, which sounds like the one they have repeatedly administered, it is designed to detect moderate-to-severe dementia.

As he crows about passing the test, what he is saying is that we should be pleased our president has mild-to-moderate dementia.

And it is pretty clear they think he is in the mild-to-moderate range or they wouldn't keep checking to see if he has progressed to the moderate-to-severe stage.

I suppose it is possible they are giving him the Montreal Cognitive Assessment (MoCA), which is designed to detect earlier signs, but somehow I doubt it

On edit: Turns out it is the MoCA he's getting. Sorry for the false assumption. See Ms. Toad's post below.

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Oh goody! Our president only has mild-to-moderate dementia. (Original Post) pat_k Thursday OP
Moderate dementia along with his severe mental illness and drug addiction is BAD, very bad. Irish_Dem Thursday #1
And syphilis, I have heard... displacedvermoter Thursday #3
Yes, his psychopathy and malignant narcissism... pat_k Thursday #4
He was already mildly demented at birth. Dave Bowman Thursday #2
Whether nature or malignant nurture, he was certainly twisted young. pat_k Thursday #5
Every year he has described is the MoCA. Ms. Toad Thursday #6
Thanks for the clarification. pat_k Thursday #7

Irish_Dem

(82,620 posts)
1. Moderate dementia along with his severe mental illness and drug addiction is BAD, very bad.
Thu May 28, 2026, 03:58 PM
Thursday

pat_k

(14,002 posts)
4. Yes, his psychopathy and malignant narcissism...
Thu May 28, 2026, 04:12 PM
Thursday

(AKA dual Anti-Social and Narcissistic Personality Disorder diagnosis) has been crystal clear from his public conduct since he came down the escalator. (And was probably clear before that, but the public/video record wasn't as extensive.)


This Aug 16, 2017 post runs through the criteria. This isn't random "arm chair" diagnosis. The record is clear and he is way past the minimum criteria.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1846040

pat_k

(14,002 posts)
5. Whether nature or malignant nurture, he was certainly twisted young.
Thu May 28, 2026, 05:19 PM
Thursday

With Fred Trump's emotionally abusive, win at all costs, aggression above all else, crush every empathic impulse "parenting" perhaps he didn't have much of a chance of not becoming a psychopath.

But origins aside, the rise of such a man to power, not once, but twice is as shameful a chapter in our history as the founding concessions to enslavers.

Ms. Toad

(38,860 posts)
6. Every year he has described is the MoCA.
Thu May 28, 2026, 05:27 PM
Thursday

Just read his comments and compare them to the test.

As for repeated checking - assessing cognitive function is standard every year for anyone Medicare age or older. Using a test to make that assessment isn't required, but it is standard.

pat_k

(14,002 posts)
7. Thanks for the clarification.
Thu May 28, 2026, 06:04 PM
Thursday

The MoCA adds up to 30 points, but has only 17 or so independent questions across eight areas of cognition. I had seen the MMSE referred to as a "30-question test," so figured that's what what he was taking (given his repeated references to 30 questions). However, when I found a PDF of the MMSE it's clear that, like the MOCA, there are fewer than 30 independent questions.

But clearly it is the MoCA that presents pictures of animals to name. The number and type of animals he describes don't show up on any version, but nevermind. (I did get a kick when he threw in Shark as one of the animals because according to Stormy Daniels he has a thing about sharks.)

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