spewed all over the place that "Hillary is worse than trump" , Hillary would start a war", and "trump would bring the revolurion"

How did that fucking work out?

Not a good look to stick up for Sarandon.

She voted for Jill Stein.



Oh, and Michael Flynn is at the table as well.

https://abcnews.com/US/doj-pay-trump-adviser-michael-flynn-1m-settle/story?id=131411111

From the article:
"Did she really say that Hillary was more dangerous than Trump?"

'“Not exactly, but I don’t mind that quote,” (Sarandon) says. “I did think she was very, very dangerous. We would still be fracking, we would be at war [if she was president]. It wouldn’t be much smoother. Look what happened under Obama that we didn’t notice.'”
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/26/susan-sarandon-i-thought-hillary-was-very-dangerous-if-shed-won-wed-be-at-war

Who can tell the influence of her opinions. Sarandon is known to be outspoken.
I'm sure she didn't do Hillary any good. And her ambiguous statement about President Obama is downright insulting to these Democratic ears.

Thanks for your post BigmanPigman. Food for thought.

Who not only refused to vote for Hillary. But encouraged others to do likewise.

and don’t forget Jill Stein comey, and the sexist anti-Hilary MSM.


In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1% while Jill Stein received 1% of the vote in those critical swing states.

It didn’t take much.

And her attacks on Hillary clearly did not help. I wonder how that whole Jill Stein thing is working out for her.

was a Spoiler in the Swing states by Dav Wasserman. And she parrotted Sarandon.

Oh, and remember this?

But she gave a famous face and focus for people who really wanted to yell about the Bernie Bros. She just made for a convenient locus for the ire.

I think she rubbed some Boomers the wrong way. She's kind of more their thing. And of course, being a woman, she gets that extra target on her back. Just like how Gillibrand single-handedly brought down Al Franken and no man within 1,000 miles of Washington had any kind of opinions on that.

It's just people needing a villain, and women make for better villains.

No one under 50 was hanging on Susan Sarandon's political opinions. People can't accept that in 2016, people didn't really live with Hillary Clinton the same way anymore. They didn't come up with her. They didn't watch her in the 90s. They only really knew her as probably the most privileged white woman in the world at a time when progressives involved with intersectionality were really interrogating that privilege. She was a big meh for a lot of people. But the people who have been invested in her for decades and strongly identified with her biography just could not - and still cannot - perceive that she was no longer viewed in that same deferential way by younger generations.

There was a generational divide on the hagiography that came to the fore in 2016.

Which is why Sarandon being the villain is really funny. There are so many reasons that election went pear-shaped, and I don't think I'd put an elderly former actress in the top 100 there. Like there was an army of twentysomething men roaming around, "Susan Sarandon said what?! Shit, that's all you had to say!"

It is, however, impossible to measure ....

But you know this. So to reiterate: What's your point?

and she was put on a level as a profoundly enlightened woman at the age of 78 and she was praised as if she walked on water. I chose to differ.

about Hillar

There are a lot of commenters replaying everything she said and did in that time period, but as far as her so-called "influence on voters" is concerned, the real question becomes, who was really listening to what she said and did? How many people were following her, and forming their opinions based on her? How many voters did she sway?

I would contend that it was very few, excepting perhaps those directly in her real world interactions. IRL for me at least, no one was talking about her or her opinion. She was just another celebrity, being a celebrity with a political candidate. "Oh yea, wasn't she in Bull Durham?"