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edhopper

(37,517 posts)
Wed May 13, 2026, 11:12 AM Wednesday

Does Trump already have a deal with China?

Basics of Diplomacy 101 is that a President doesn't go to another country unless there is already a deal in place. If not, the President can look foolish and ineffective.
Of course Trump thinks he is a master at the deal and there aren't any left in the State Dept that understand how things work. At least not anyone he would listen to.
I predict that Trump will return without any real results, or announces something the Press will make a big thing of that will turn out to be a nothing burger or bad for America.

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Does Trump already have a deal with China? (Original Post) edhopper Wednesday OP
"If not, the President can look foolish and ineffective." True Dough Wednesday #1
It was a generalization for the office edhopper Wednesday #14
Krasnov is going to get a good deal but, gab13by13 Wednesday #2
Already one of the biggest snubs in history malaise Wednesday #3
You mean Xi not welcoming him? underpants Wednesday #5
As in malaise Wednesday #7
Even if he doesn't, you can safely bet that Eric and the "Trump Organization" is getting one. Solly Mack Wednesday #4
Definitely edhopper Wednesday #15
Oh Xi has a deal for him Johonny Wednesday #6
DEAL? WHY WOULD CHINA CARE TO DEAL?! SHE IS CORNERING.... ColoringFool Wednesday #8
Xi holds the cards. Will TSF express enough gratitude? Sneederbunk Wednesday #9
Three possibilities, IMO... Happy Hoosier Wednesday #10
Xi knows he is full of shit and will offer only idiot "deals" usonian Wednesday #11
Trump may not have a deal, but he is going back from China with Dan Wednesday #12
The area on my predictometer just zoomed to 100%. ananda Wednesday #13
MY rather silly guess nitpicked Wednesday #16

True Dough

(27,299 posts)
1. "If not, the President can look foolish and ineffective."
Wed May 13, 2026, 11:23 AM
Wednesday

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That is already true in so many ways, including the Iran war.

Solly Mack

(97,265 posts)
4. Even if he doesn't, you can safely bet that Eric and the "Trump Organization" is getting one.
Wed May 13, 2026, 11:28 AM
Wednesday

Probably Lara Trump too.

Johonny

(26,593 posts)
6. Oh Xi has a deal for him
Wed May 13, 2026, 11:34 AM
Wednesday

Something as wonderful as the epic OPEC 2020 deal that rarely fucked us for years.

ColoringFool

(1,071 posts)
8. DEAL? WHY WOULD CHINA CARE TO DEAL?! SHE IS CORNERING....
Wed May 13, 2026, 11:40 AM
Wednesday

THE MARKET IN AFRICAN RARE EARTH MINERALS, WITH THOUSANDS OF CHINESE WORKERS ON SITE.

EUROPE WILL BE SIGNING (MORE) TRADE DEALS WITH HER.

TRUMP HAS GONE A-BEGGING BECAUSE HIS TARIFFS ARE BECOMING ONEROUS ON THE UNITED STATES [SEE: SOYBEANS].

FUHGEDDABOUTIT, JAKE. IT'S CHINATOWN.

Happy Hoosier

(9,622 posts)
10. Three possibilities, IMO...
Wed May 13, 2026, 11:44 AM
Wednesday

1) There is a deal, and it's an okey-doke. Essentially meaningless concessions form China that Trump can trumpet, but Xi is just playing Trump, and he is placating him while he is very effectively expanding Chinese influence

2) Trump thinks he has a deal, but also thinks he's the master of the deal and he'll fuck is all up by blowing up the previously agreed to deal. He does this alot.

3) There's a lot of pomp and we walk away with "Concepts of a Deal" that Trump will trumpet and comes to nothing.


I think 1 is most likely, but any of them could happen.

usonian

(26,588 posts)
11. Xi knows he is full of shit and will offer only idiot "deals"
Wed May 13, 2026, 12:00 PM
Wednesday

China is holding all the cards, except for its flagging economy, which the war in Iran stands to boost considerably, IMO.

Maybe Xi will offer solar panels. Iran will starve the US and others not on the solar bandwagon.

The War in Iran Is Causing China to Sell So Many Solar Panels That Your Jaw Will Drop
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21228983

He dragged along tech-bro flunkies, so this will probably be some chip and AI deal.

Dan

(5,290 posts)
12. Trump may not have a deal, but he is going back from China with
Wed May 13, 2026, 12:32 PM
Wednesday

The Vaseline for use by Americans for whatever comes.

nitpicked

(1,968 posts)
16. MY rather silly guess
Wed May 13, 2026, 01:52 PM
Wednesday

Thump will tout "good for business" deals for CEOs' companies.

And ignore any lack of real movement on other issues (including Iran).

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