maybe so, but we owe iran, at least 159 ships (unless, of course, iran never had that many sunk ships..)

but the timing will be such that a dem has to actually write the check and take the blame.

And we have a flash sale on pardons this week. If you act now, you can get the special 50% off price of $500,000 if paid in untraceable crypto.

Rising by the hour.

That is all

They aren't going to give you good terms...

Trump has successfully cowed / spayed / neutered Congressional Republicans, and he thinks he can replicate that same fear and fealty with Iran.

He can't.

They know exactly WHO and WHAT he is, and they don't care.

Just to rec this reply!
😂😂😂. Omg!
Cowed/spayed/neutered Congress! That is perfection!!! I may have to borrow that if it’s OK with you.

OR, we can go back to the Obama Deal we had, and leave the straight completely open to all traffic, OH AND we will sail all of our uranium to wherever the fuck America wants...the day AFTER Trump is no longer president.

as they increase demands

Wait, I think he already did, and it was a loser.

This is 100% on Donny Trump and his need to divert attention from EPSTEIN.

Iran attacking their neighbors and unarmed neutral ships is hardly "winning" against the US.
Does turn a lot of countries against them though, good job!

If Trump goes back in and bombs all their power plants & bridges as he has threatened are they still "winning"?

"Stop or we will bleed on your more!!"

and i think Americans find that inconceivable because they don't understand Shi'ite society. Your last line needs editing:

"Stop or we will bleed on your more!!"

I've been reading Juan Cole over at Informed Comment for years. He has been instructive for helping me understand the attitudes there. He wrote up something at the beginning of the conflict predicting it would all go horribly wrong and why but i'm having trouble finding it. I'll keep looking. Here is a recent article from the Middle East Monitor via Informed Comment:

https://www.juancole.com/2026/05/israeli-iranian-collapse.html

Also, my understanding is that our own illustrious CIA has determined Iran still has 70% of its stockpile of missiles and launchers... so there's that.

..... the majority of their anti-air defenses and radars have been destroyed,, most of their major military headquarters and buildings have been flattened, all their major Naval vessels have been sunk except the small stuff they keep hidden, their ports are blockaded so they can't sell any oil, if that's winning I 'd hate to see losing.

you don't understand the mindset among the religious leaders there. I don't really either, but i'm trying. The Shia and Sunni are very different from each other, but both are different from a Western attitude in MANY ways. Martyrdom is a thing. They've got Trump over a barrel and they can keep him there. Everyone is paying attention to them now. They have cards. They'll let their people suffer if it means we suffer too.

American troops dying and wasting American resources is nothing to Trump.

Very bad precedent, next China, N Korea etc will all be trying to take over international waterways

Nowhere is this allowed. Iran has held the lane hostage with their threats for decades. That is not Iranian water.

fault of Dems??

Nope, nothing will change their minds.
If raping children does not bother them, nothing will.

Is that Obama agreement looking any better to him now?

They are holding all the cards, so they can define the terms. Suck it, Trump!

It is a waterway that passes between two countries. Why should one have complete control over it?

And if Trump goes through with his threat and starts destroying every power plant and bridge in the country and then maybe includes all the oil production facilities for good measure will they still hold all the cards?