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Last edited Sat May 9, 2026, 02:27 PM - Edit history (2)
By his own AI robot for the entire world (on X) to see.

What a stoopid ignoramus!
unblock
(56,261 posts)all Nazi-saluting f*cking Nazis are Hitler.
There. Fixed it.
3_Limes
(580 posts)Belive it or not it's 'hoist on his own petard'. Not "hoisted'. Yeah it sounds weird, but many expressions that we borrowed from French way back when don't translate directly.
(Mom was an English professor.)
Ilikepurple
(792 posts)I thank you for providing this information in such a polite manner. I hope Im able to do the same as Im mot trying to cause offense. This is an attempt to put together what info I have on the subject, so read on if interested.
If one is quoting its likely originator Shakespeare, itd be hoist with his own petar(d), but if following decades of popular use either hoist or hoisted is generally accepted. A petard is an explosive device rather than an impaling one, so it makes more sense to say one is hoist(ed) (raised up) by or with one rather than on. When I first read or heard the expression not knowing what a petard was, I imagined someone being lifted after being impaled by a sword. Yet, years after learning a petard is neither not an instrument by which you can impale someone and then lift them up like in Medieval fiction, it still comes to mind before the, lets say, antics of Wile E Coyote. Wile E Coyote who has made a career out of being harmed by or with his own designs. I suppose he has at times hoisted himself on his own petard whenever hes straddled an Acme rocket to catch the roadrunner, but that has different meaning.
Although petar(d)has its roots in French, hoise and its past participle hoist (hoised) have there roots in Middle English (Germanic). I dont believe the expressions origin is French rather than another attributable to Shakespeare (Hamlet). Hoisted is now the past participle for hoist and commonly used with this expression. Justice Matterss use here is commonly accepted outside of English literature classes and isolated cocktail gatherings.
AZ8theist
(7,631 posts)Just like this guy:

Justice matters.
(10,072 posts)Welcome to DU
Justice matters.
(10,072 posts)ToxMarz
(3,064 posts)Therefore all Republicans are pedophiles?
Cha
(320,554 posts)Fil1957
(873 posts)Although I have to admit I believed he meant it, until I looked into it a bit further.
paleotn
(22,729 posts)It's not an act. It's a daily occurrence. See below why he ended up so rich despite it.
Seinan Sensei
(1,640 posts)paleotn
(22,729 posts)to get concentration camped?
Next time you get the urge to think Elmo or any of his compatriots are filthy rich because he's smart, stop yourself and think. No, he's not smart. He shows that day in and day out. He, like most billionaires, simply won the lottery. They were in exactly the right place, at exactly the right time, with the right idea they usually stole from someone else, and a bit more cutthroat than their competition. That's right, Bill Gates, I'm look straight at you too. It's the lottery fallacy. What we think is skill and talent is really just pure chance. And they deserve some kind of special dispensation? Oh, hell no!
GB_RN
(3,588 posts)Im betting Grok gets a tune up in the near future. Cant be countering Reichwing bullshit with actual facts, dont ya know?
blue-wave
(5,543 posts)saw their wages decrease during Nazi reign. The Nazis outlawed any independent worker movements and replaced them with state sanctioned (Nazi) approved organizations. These state approved groups were not pro-worker but were pro-production. The less you pay each worker, the more workers you can "employ." It wasn't slave labor but not the greatest situation for workers either.
ananda
(35,504 posts)Yeah
ZDU
(1,414 posts)To Mars or the outer reaches of the Milky Way
Uncle Joe
(65,516 posts)Thanks for the thread Justice matters
Gaugamela
(3,575 posts)Matt Damon is an actor, therefore all actors are Matt Damon.
Or . . .
Elon Musk is an addict, therefore all addicts are Elon Musk.
eppur_se_muova
(42,507 posts)Hassler
(4,961 posts)He supports fascism. He's a fan of apartheid. Hitler is his role model, or should be.
Cha
(320,554 posts)how much Musk Rat denied it.
FakeNoose
(42,399 posts)This is a screenshot, so anyone can fake what is printed on there using his name.
Even I know how to do that, so does that make me smarter than Musk?
Soul_of_Wit
(143 posts)I'm being told that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is actually Communist North Korea. Who knew?
City Lights
(26,024 posts)rsdsharp
(12,093 posts)GoodRaisin
(11,056 posts)struggle4progress
(126,683 posts)struggle4progress
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