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In It to Win It

(12,781 posts)
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:35 PM Wednesday

Chief Justice John Roberts says American public wrongly views the justices as 'political actors'

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/chief-justice-john-roberts-says-justices-are-not-political-actors-rcna343958

HERSHEY, Pa. — Chief Justice John Roberts on Wednesday defended the Supreme Court from what he believes are misconceptions held by the American people that he and his colleagues are “political actors” who are making decisions based on policy, not law.

Speaking at a conference for lawyers and judges in Hershey, Roberts said the Supreme Court is required to make decisions that are not popular and bemoaned that there is not a better understanding among the public of how the court operates.

“I think at a very basic level, people think we’re making policy decisions, [that] we’re saying we think this is what things should be as opposed to this is what the law provides,” Roberts said. “I think they view us as truly political actors, which I don’t think is an accurate understanding of what we do. I would say that’s the main difficulty.”

While he conceded that people have a right to criticize the court and its decisions, he added that there is a tendency to focus too much on politics.

“We’re not simply part of the political process, and there’s a reason for that, and I’m not sure people grasp that as much as is appropriate,” Roberts said.


NEW: Chief Justice John Roberts bemoans that Americans don't understand how the Supreme Court operates and see justices as "political actors". The court at times simply has to make "unpopular" decisions, he adds:
www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...

Lawrence Hurley (@lawrencehurley.bsky.social) 2026-05-07T00:02:43.440Z
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Chief Justice John Roberts says American public wrongly views the justices as 'political actors' (Original Post) In It to Win It Wednesday OP
That was good for a laugh stumpysbear Wednesday #1
We, the public, are not the problem. C_U_L8R Wednesday #2
We are too fucking stupid to understand displacedvermoter Wednesday #3
Kiss my ass John, i have eyes. dem4decades Wednesday #4
we didn't until you fucking HACKS came along Skittles Wednesday #5
I believe this POS worked with Bush's team Stargleamer Wednesday #6
FIVE REPUBLICAN-appointed justices voted to abrogate their duties niyad Wednesday #18
And even more egregious is 2 of them. . . Stargleamer Wednesday #26
Exactly!!!! niyad Wednesday #34
Roberts, Kavanaugh and Coney-Barrett aided Bush in 2000 DemocracyForever Friday #62
I AM free to criticize. Hey Johnny. GFY. johnnyfins Wednesday #7
Don't insult us with your b.s. Roberts. Diamond_Dog Wednesday #8
As a retired empiricist, I suggest Roberts take an intro course in examining data. spooky3 Wednesday #9
Nailed it malaise Wednesday #13
why, thank you! spooky3 Wednesday #15
The data speaks for itself malaise Wednesday #16
He's gaslighting, and he knows it. And corrupt to the core. nt spooky3 Wednesday #17
Then there's this malaise Wednesday #20
Piece of shit. nt spooky3 Wednesday #21
I never forgot it malaise Wednesday #23
One of his colleagues just said progressivism can't exist in the USA. In It to Win It Wednesday #24
LIAR.. add that to your legacy, John Roberts. nt Cha Wednesday #10
If it walks like a duck, etc. niyad Wednesday #11
Or, if it gaslights like a MAGA........ wnylib Wednesday #43
TRANSLATION: Klansman in robes tries to blow smoke up our bums. B.See Wednesday #12
Mr Balls and strikes can go F himself. themaguffin Wednesday #14
This is like saying the car dealership exists to keep your maintenance costs low bucolic_frolic Wednesday #19
Not wrongly. Not wrongly. Baitball Blogger Wednesday #22
He's right, we shouldn't see them as political actors Terry_M Wednesday #25
Anyone reading the Writings of Alito and Thomas know that Robert's is full of it. lostincalifornia Wednesday #27
Poor John thinks we are ignorant ones MagickMuffin Wednesday #28
Vain racist piggy so worried how history will view him that he's telling us what to think? Attilatheblond Wednesday #29
That hack can pound sand. City Lights Wednesday #30
He is so full of himself - TBF Wednesday #31
What a load of bullshit... appmanga Wednesday #32
+1. Roberts is a virulent racist and a traitor to the Constitution dalton99a Wednesday #40
They are traitors enabling a coup against our democracy. Until they are removed it will continue to get worse. Blues Heron Wednesday #33
lololol Give it up, dude. You're a piece of shit. Stop trying to convince people otherwise. Solly Mack Wednesday #35
Geez, he is beyond pathetic... Spazito Wednesday #36
yes Skittles Thursday #59
Then maybe the court shouldn't rule as if they are political actors... haele Wednesday #37
If it walks like a duck....... vapor2 Wednesday #38
Political actors?? No way !! MW67 Wednesday #39
Also known as whores dalton99a Wednesday #41
I'm not a lawyer but the 14th amendment article # 3 explicitly said that Trump could not run again Botany Wednesday #42
Not actors. usonian Wednesday #44
Why were 6 justices invited to dinner with trump/king charles??? IcyPeas Wednesday #45
He's telling us not to believe our lying ears and eyes. tavernier Wednesday #46
I think of them more as political puppets than political actors. dgauss Wednesday #47
Says the guy angrychair Wednesday #48
F Him. All they do is rule on politically charged issues Bristlecone Wednesday #49
The whole abortion issue canetoad Wednesday #50
Sorry, JR, the Fecal Matter Has Been Conspicuously Oozing from you and Your Lying Covert for Years Now The Roux Comes First Wednesday #51
More like political, racist, malfeasant actors Scalded Nun Wednesday #52
"Damn! It's getting so we get called partisan hacks every fuckin time we act like partisan hacks! It's so unfair!" struggle4progress Wednesday #53
He said it with a straight face ? rickford66 Wednesday #54
Watch what they do, not what they say. ☮ walkingman Wednesday #55
Yeah well, get glasses Johnny Bob. Dave Bowman Wednesday #56
Hated the VRA since the early 80s? moondust Thursday #57
Thanks to RW SCOTUS justices... Jacson6 Thursday #58
Anybody who is Federalist Society is anti-American. valleyrogue Thursday #60
MaddowBlog-Why John Roberts' defense of the Supreme Court was so wildly unpersuasive LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #61

C_U_L8R

(49,507 posts)
2. We, the public, are not the problem.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:40 PM
Wednesday

The Chief Justice must honestly ask himself why so many believe he is politically corrupt.

displacedvermoter

(4,941 posts)
3. We are too fucking stupid to understand
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:40 PM
Wednesday

what they are doing, and that these unpopular decisions are really in our best interests!

Stargleamer

(2,769 posts)
6. I believe this POS worked with Bush's team
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:41 PM
Wednesday

to do what they could to stop the recount. So he expects us to believe that once appointed onto the Supreme Court he's no longer a "political actor"? What BS.

niyad

(133,783 posts)
18. FIVE REPUBLICAN-appointed justices voted to abrogate their duties
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:54 PM
Wednesday

to the Constitution, and anointed REPUBLICAN bush the lesser as president, with all its attendant horrors. Tell me that was NOT "political actors", you lying, insufferabble, insulting, waste of oxygen.

Stargleamer

(2,769 posts)
26. And even more egregious is 2 of them. . .
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:03 PM
Wednesday

(Scalia and Thomas) had conflicts of interest that demanded recusal. They had family working on Bush's behalf. I think Scalia's son & Ginny Thomas.

If the recount had continued, and all overvotes and undervotes had been checked for valid votes, Al Gore would have won and this current nightmare couldn't have started.

DemocracyForever

(155 posts)
62. Roberts, Kavanaugh and Coney-Barrett aided Bush in 2000
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:32 PM
Friday

as did Clarence Thomas. Sorry John Roberts but we the people know highly partisan political rats when we see them and you're the poster child for these highly partisan political rats.

spooky3

(38,829 posts)
9. As a retired empiricist, I suggest Roberts take an intro course in examining data.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:43 PM
Wednesday

He can start with a very simple instance -- that we are almost perfectly able to predict how the Republican appointees will vote on most cases. If one can predict, one understands reality. If instead what he said were true, there would be few 6-3 cases and more 9-0 cases, and there would be a mix of justices on each side of cases that have at least several minority votes.

malaise

(297,668 posts)
23. I never forgot it
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:00 PM
Wednesday

I thought it as deliberate then and am more convinced it was now - given the data.

In It to Win It

(12,781 posts)
24. One of his colleagues just said progressivism can't exist in the USA.
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:01 PM
Wednesday

Not a coincidence that decisions with political impacts that are most opposite of progressivism tend to win in this court.

B.See

(8,764 posts)
12. TRANSLATION: Klansman in robes tries to blow smoke up our bums.
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:48 PM
Wednesday

But right in one way. His blatant racism and bigotry IS NO ACT.

John Roberts might as well wear the robes of the Klan | Opinion - Rawstory via MSN It’s not hyperbole to say that while Roberts wears the black robes of a judge, he may as well wear the white robes of the Klan.

Starting as early as 1981, as a 26-year-old lawyer just three years out of Harvard Law School, Roberts began his campaign to undermine the Civil Rights Act. He got himself a job as Special Assistant to Ronald Reagan’s Attorney General William French Smith. Congress was about to amend the Civil Rights Act to provide that state laws would be illegal if they had a racially discriminatory effect, without having to prove that they had a racially discriminatory intent—something almost impossible to prove.

Roberts zealously took on the assignment coming up with arguments against the Amendment. Roberts wrote over 25 memos opposing the Amendment.

In one, he argued that the Civil Rights Act was “the most intrusive interference imaginable by federal courts into state and local processes.”

bucolic_frolic

(55,695 posts)
19. This is like saying the car dealership exists to keep your maintenance costs low
Wed May 6, 2026, 08:56 PM
Wednesday

I didn't want to believe the truth, it was too impossible. I bought balls and strikes for a long time. Don't read his lips, watch his decisions.

Terry_M

(821 posts)
25. He's right, we shouldn't see them as political actors
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:02 PM
Wednesday

We should see them for what they really are - culture warriors.
Not politicians, not justices (precedent? what is that???), just the purest form of culture warriors.

MagickMuffin

(18,362 posts)
28. Poor John thinks we are ignorant ones
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:05 PM
Wednesday


Newsflash John Roberts YOUR court is extremely partisan and racist.

You side with corporations over the citizens of the United States. We The People of the United States of America are not ignorant. No matter how you try to frame it you are MAGA to the core.

Unfortunately it’s not for the benefit of the United States.

Attilatheblond

(9,184 posts)
29. Vain racist piggy so worried how history will view him that he's telling us what to think?
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:05 PM
Wednesday

Fuck that guy

TBF

(37,089 posts)
31. He is so full of himself -
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:07 PM
Wednesday

and such a danger to this country. This man's court is going to be remembered as the most corrupt in history.

appmanga

(1,513 posts)
32. What a load of bullshit...
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:07 PM
Wednesday

...from a man who made it his life's mission to make voting harder for minorities. When he first started that quest, the Voting Rights Act was less than 20 years old. It's astounding that these "non-political" people seem to constantly fall on the side of what one particular political party in this country seems to want, which tends to be opposite of what the majority of Americans favor. There aren't many accepted truisms held by most people in this country, but, even if they were cynical about, I'd never heard anyone of any political stripe embrace the notion that the president is above the law. That novel thinking comes from a right-wing theory of a unitary executive. But yeah, Mr. Chief Justice, please convince me this current Court isn't a political arm of the Republican Party.

Blues Heron

(8,999 posts)
33. They are traitors enabling a coup against our democracy. Until they are removed it will continue to get worse.
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:07 PM
Wednesday

Skittles

(172,643 posts)
59. yes
Thu May 7, 2026, 06:30 AM
Thursday

yes, it's bad enough that these rightwing hacks are destroying democracy, they have to WHINE about what we think of them

haele

(15,563 posts)
37. Then maybe the court shouldn't rule as if they are political actors...
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:16 PM
Wednesday

I'm not suggesting mob rule.
I'm pointing out that many of the recent rulings indicate that the majority of the Justices are coming to their decisions from a biased and uniquely cultural based outlook rather than from a neutral position starting from prior rulings on Constitutional questions. They can't even seem to conceive their decisions may cause significant harm to unrelated environments or innocent people just trying to survive, and they certainly can't seem to even consider there's a problem when they are obviously biased.
If they rule as if they believe that belonging to a certain cultural group followed by maybe only 20% of the population is the correct way forward and all others are based of moral failings and heresies, then, yeah - maybe they shouldn't be dispensing legal opinions and rulings for the entire country.
This is the Roberts court. An out of touch gathering of Country Club members trying to schmooze and favor those who can reinforce their comfortable world view.
And F*** anything that doesn't belong to their club.

MW67

(212 posts)
39. Political actors?? No way !!
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:28 PM
Wednesday

Paid political operative is a more accurate description,they ain't play acting

Botany

(77,762 posts)
42. I'm not a lawyer but the 14th amendment article # 3 explicitly said that Trump could not run again
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:33 PM
Wednesday

… and the Roberts’ Court said that it did not say that. No, bush v Gore and Roberts and Alito would not
be on the SCOTUS. Btw how much has your wife taken in John?

IcyPeas

(25,734 posts)
45. Why were 6 justices invited to dinner with trump/king charles???
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:41 PM
Wednesday

Why does Gorsuch go on Fox News

Why was Gorsuch just on Megyn Kelly's show? SERIOUSLY!!!



tavernier

(14,498 posts)
46. He's telling us not to believe our lying ears and eyes.
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:42 PM
Wednesday

Maybe Kid Rock should put his words to music. The maggots would lap it up.

dgauss

(1,578 posts)
47. I think of them more as political puppets than political actors.
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:43 PM
Wednesday

Maybe that's the misunderstanding he's referring to?

angrychair

(12,464 posts)
48. Says the guy
Wed May 6, 2026, 09:45 PM
Wednesday

As well as he is fellow conservative judges, that regularly hangs out with rightwing billionaires trying to reshape the country through the courts.

It's just a coincidence that their decisions perfectly align with Mango Mussolini's agenda and the agenda of the people they regularly associate.

The Roux Comes First

(2,314 posts)
51. Sorry, JR, the Fecal Matter Has Been Conspicuously Oozing from you and Your Lying Covert for Years Now
Wed May 6, 2026, 11:19 PM
Wednesday

struggle4progress

(126,644 posts)
53. "Damn! It's getting so we get called partisan hacks every fuckin time we act like partisan hacks! It's so unfair!"
Wed May 6, 2026, 11:30 PM
Wednesday

moondust

(21,343 posts)
57. Hated the VRA since the early 80s?
Thu May 7, 2026, 12:47 AM
Thursday

Why? Doesn't that suggest (racist) opposition to the very idea of addressing centuries of racial discrimination?

Roberts’s animus toward the act, and toward the broader struggle to address centuries of racial discrimination in America, has been in plain sight since he served as a young lawyer in the Reagan administration, drafting memos attacking the law and devising legal arguments to undermine it.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/chief-justice-robertss-vendetta-against-voting-rights-act

Jacson6

(2,160 posts)
58. Thanks to RW SCOTUS justices...
Thu May 7, 2026, 01:37 AM
Thursday

A raped 11 year old girl in Texas is forced to give birth to a baby.

Enough said, Johnny!

valleyrogue

(2,782 posts)
60. Anybody who is Federalist Society is anti-American.
Thu May 7, 2026, 06:34 AM
Thursday

Critics of these hacks know full well what they are.

LetMyPeopleVote

(181,602 posts)
61. MaddowBlog-Why John Roberts' defense of the Supreme Court was so wildly unpersuasive
Thu May 7, 2026, 08:03 PM
Thursday

Justices should consider not only why most believe the high court is motivated by politics, but also their own role in fueling the problem they find offensive.

Why John Roberts’ defense of the Supreme Court was so wildly unpersuasive www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Philly Joe (@joehick58.bsky.social) 2026-05-07T22:39:16.924Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/john-roberts-defense-supreme-court-unpersuasive

Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts is clearly aware of public perceptions related to the high court, though he apparently wants Americans to see him and fellow justices as above the political fray. The Associated Press reported on his latest public remarks:

I think, at a very basic level, people think we’re making policy decisions, we’re saying we think this is how things should be, as opposed to what the law provides,” he said. “I think they view us as purely political actors, which I don’t think is an accurate understanding of what we do.”

His remarks to a conference of judges and lawyers from the 3rd U.S. Circuit in Pennsylvania came at a time of low public confidence in the court, and about a week after the court handed down a decision that hollowed out the Voting Rights Act.


As part of the same remarks, Roberts went on to argue that sitting justices are not “part of the political process … and I’m not sure people grasp that as much as is appropriate.”.....

Why does the public see the justices, as Roberts put it, as “political actors”? It might have something to do with far-right justices issuing regressive and reactionary rulings. And far-right justices getting caught up in indefensible ethics controversies. And far-right justices elevating the presidency above the law.

But I suspect one of the main reasons so many people see justices as “political actors” is the frequency with which they act like political actors. Right around the same time that the public was learning about Roberts’ remarks, Justice Neil Gorsuch, who has a track record of chatting with conservative media personalities, appeared on a conservative podcast, talking about his belief that “young conservatives must have courage to stand by their beliefs.”....

Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut argued five years ago, “Judges turning into political actors, giving speeches attacking journalists, is terrible for the court and terrible for democracy.” Justices proceeded to ignore the warning.

The tarnishing of the Supreme Court — its credibility, its integrity and its reputation — has unfolded episodically over the course of several years. If Roberts and his brethren want to whine about public reactions to their work, that’s their right, but if they want to help restore the institution’s standing, they have an enormous amount of work to do. To date, they have shown no willingness whatsoever to even acknowledge the causes of the Supreme Court’s problems, much less take steps to address what ails it.

Roberts is a racist asshole who has been plotting to overturn or gut the Voting Rights Act since Roberts' days in the Reagan DOJ. I still remember reading the Shelby County opinion and dissent where Roberts gutted Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. That was NOT a legal opinion but a policy decision based on Roberts' belief that there was no longer racial prejudice. Alito's opinion is merely a continuation of the racist policies of the six asshole SCOTUS justices.
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