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Tue May 5, 2026, 03:11 PM 8 hrs ago

Deadline Legal Blog-Trump DOJ could have awkward time explaining this part of its Cole Allen prosecution

The Justice Department says the suspect in the correspondents’ dinner attack was talking about Trump when he referred to a “pedophile, rapist, and traitor.”

Trump DOJ could have awkward time explaining this part of its Cole Allen prosecution www.ms.now/deadline-whi... Really wish his reckoning could happen while he was alive but it probably won’t. Any day now he’ll just drop dead of a grabber or some other old age related death and we can start moving

Fordsrummy (@fordsrummy.bsky.social) 2026-05-03T22:24:55.758Z

https://www.ms.now/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/trump-doj-cole-allen-attempted-assassination-letter

In their motion seeking Cole Tomas Allen’s pretrial release, his lawyers argued that Allen’s intent to assassinate President Donald Trump at the White House correspondents’ dinner last weekend is “far from clear.” Ahead of Thursday’s detention hearing, they wrote that the letter in which Allen allegedly explained his actions “makes no mention of the president by name.”.....

In part of his letter explaining “why I did any of this,” Allen allegedly wrote that “I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes.” When explaining his “expected rules of engagement” in the letter, he allegedly wrote that he “would still go through most everyone here to get to the targets if it were absolutely necessary (on the basis that most people *chose* to attend a speech by a pedophile, rapist, and traitor, and are thus complicit) but I really hope it doesn’t come to that.” As for the reference to “targets” plural, which would include more than just Trump, Allen’s alleged “expected rules of engagement” also included “Administration officials.”

When asked by a reporter for his reaction to the letter, Trump seemed upset at the reporter for asking and said, in part, “I’m not a rapist” and “I’m not a pedophile.” .....

In support of its detention argument, the DOJ wrote ahead of the hearing, among other things, that Allen traveled from California to Washington — specifically to the hotel where the dinner was set to take place — tracked Trump’s movements leading up to the dinner and, “armed with a 12-gauge shotgun, a .38 caliber pistol, two knives, four daggers, and enough ammunition to take dozens of lives, was apprehended by USSS [Secret Service] officers mere feet away from the ballroom where his primary target was located, along with other members of the Cabinet.”

That Trump was Allen’s “primary target” is an argument the DOJ must prove, not merely state as fact. But it has reasonable evidence to back that claim, and further evidence may emerge before a trial, if one takes place. Of course, the government’s case can degrade over time as well. It’s at an early stage. There hasn’t even been an indictment yet, though one may come soon.

In any event, Allen is presumed innocent, and it’s the government’s burden to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt if the case goes to trial. If it gets to that point, the DOJ’s strategy might entail not only the obvious, typical plan of how to prove the defendant’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, but also how to do so without angering the president, who keeps a close grip and watch on the department.

Though prosecutors would dispute the accuracy of the derogatory description on the president’s behalf — or at least correctly argue that it’s irrelevant whether it’s true for the purposes of this criminal case against Allen— they would first need to explain to the jury why the reference so obviously applied to Trump

Piro is going to have to admit that the pedophile mentioned by the Defendant was trump. This will be fun to watch
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Deadline Legal Blog-Trump DOJ could have awkward time explaining this part of its Cole Allen prosecution (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote 8 hrs ago OP
Trump's own DOJ may be forced to air salacious claims against him at trial: analyst LetMyPeopleVote 7 hrs ago #1

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1. Trump's own DOJ may be forced to air salacious claims against him at trial: analyst
Tue May 5, 2026, 03:44 PM
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The defendant's letter does NOT name trump but refers to rapist and pedophile. To use that letter, Piro will have to admit that the Defendant was referring to trump which will piss off trump.

Allen's alleged manifesto, which prosecutors have cited in court filings to establish his intent, describes a "pedophile, rapist, and traitor" in a passage that DOJ lawyers have treated as a reference to the president, even as it never directly names Trump.

Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2026-05-04T21:00:21.365Z

https://www.rawstory.com/jeanine-pirro-2676849262/

The alleged gunman charged in the storming of the White House Correspondents' Dinner last week may have just put President Donald Trump's Justice Department in an awkward position, according to a new legal analysis in MS NOW.

If the Cole Allen assassination case goes to trial, prosecutors working for Trump's DOJ may find themselves in the uncomfortable position of reading accusations that the president is a "pedophile, rapist, and traitor" out loud to a jury to prove Allen intended to kill him, legal analyst Jordan Rubin laid out this week

Allen's alleged manifesto, which prosecutors have cited in court filings to establish his intent, describes a "pedophile, rapist, and traitor" in a passage that DOJ lawyers have treated as a reference to the president, even as it never directly names Trump.....

"But Pirro has reason to care. The incendiary language has legal relevance in the case her office brought against Allen. The top charge he faces is for allegedly attempting to assassinate Trump at the White House Correspondents’ dinner in the nation’s capital last month," noted Rubin.....

"Again, the question in Allen’s case is not whether the president is any of those things. But if the case goes to trial, then prosecutors may find themselves in the unenviable position of having to explain that to a jury, while Pirro may find herself having to explain to Trump why he keeps hearing about it," Rubin said.
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