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DemocratSinceBirth

(101,979 posts) Tue May 5, 2026, 10:10 AM 4 hrs ago

If we're winning the war why is there a ceasefire?

I don't remember a ceasefire in WW ll

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If we're winning the war why is there a ceasefire? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth 4 hrs ago OP

Because we were trying to win the war, not negotiate for a big pay day for the president. Irish_Dem 4 hrs ago #1

We won the war! Johonny 4 hrs ago #2

Never heard of a winner negotiating the terms of said win newdeal2 3 hrs ago #9

When you start a war with no goals Johonny 3 hrs ago #10

If the war's over, why do we want more concessions to end it? dem4decades 4 hrs ago #3

...and why is there firing, if we have a ceasefire? Swede 4 hrs ago #4

It's to give The Felon an excuse..... lastlib 4 hrs ago #5

Probably so that the US can scramble to build bombs for US/Israeli use. Drum 4 hrs ago #6

If we have the most powerful military in the world, Sneederbunk 4 hrs ago #7

"newspeak" definition of an endless war: usonian 4 hrs ago #8

Because Iran "has the cards" and Krasnov is clueless. He just has lies, excuses and threats, which are GoodRaisin 49 min ago #11

Irish_Dem

(82,063 posts)

1. Because we were trying to win the war, not negotiate for a big pay day for the president.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2026, 10:12 AM

4 hrs ago

Johonny

(26,482 posts)

2. We won the war!

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2026, 10:22 AM

4 hrs ago

On day one. They have no navy, airforce nor anti-aircraft. It's a total victory. VI day victory over Iran. Let's build a billion dollar arch!!

newdeal2

(5,552 posts)

9. Never heard of a winner negotiating the terms of said win

Reply to Johonny (Reply #2)

Tue May 5, 2026, 11:27 AM

3 hrs ago

Usually they get what they want, when they want it.

Johonny

(26,482 posts)

10. When you start a war with no goals

Reply to newdeal2 (Reply #9)

Tue May 5, 2026, 11:37 AM

3 hrs ago

You don't have to achieve anything to have won.

Genius!!!

dem4decades

(14,276 posts)

3. If the war's over, why do we want more concessions to end it?

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2026, 10:23 AM

4 hrs ago

Swede

(39,920 posts)

4. ...and why is there firing, if we have a ceasefire?

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2026, 10:36 AM

4 hrs ago

????

lastlib

(28,506 posts)

5. It's to give The Felon an excuse.....

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2026, 10:44 AM

4 hrs ago

a) to grift some more, squeeze $$ out of defense contractors, and b) to flout Congress and the War Powers act. It's all about enriching and empowering HIM. And becuz Iran said his mama wore army boots.

Drum

(10,743 posts)

6. Probably so that the US can scramble to build bombs for US/Israeli use.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2026, 10:44 AM

4 hrs ago

Sneederbunk

(17,594 posts)

7. If we have the most powerful military in the world,

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2026, 10:44 AM

4 hrs ago

why can't the Strait of Hormuz be opened and kept open?

usonian

(26,299 posts)

8. "newspeak" definition of an endless war:

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Tue May 5, 2026, 10:50 AM

4 hrs ago

An endless ceasefire.

With a few minor flareups, to be ignored.

Newspeak: from "1984"
Detailed explanation:

The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from from ordinary hypocrisy: they are deliberate exercises in doublethink.

– George Orwell

1984. Part 2, Chapter 9. Winston reading from Emmanuel Goldstein’s book The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism.

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The book within a book, "The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism" by the fictional Emmanuel Goldstein is available from the Internet Archive. (PDF)

https://dn721904.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-theory-and-practice-of-oligarchical-collectivism_202408/THE%20THEORY%20AND%20PRACTICE%20OF%20OLIGARCHICAL%20COLLECTIVISM.pdf

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GoodRaisin

(11,007 posts)

11. Because Iran "has the cards" and Krasnov is clueless. He just has lies, excuses and threats, which are