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dalton99a

(95,039 posts)
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:57 AM 14 hrs ago

Alberta separatist group says it has enough signatures to trigger referendum on leaving Canada

https://apnews.com/article/alberta-separation-canada-referendum-e93c247ccc2e5f0340a5490d88ab0da2

Alberta separatist group says it has enough signatures to trigger referendum on leaving Canada
Updated 10:37 PM CDT, May 4, 2026

EDMONTON, Alberta (AP) — Alberta separatists said Monday they have formally submitted almost 302,000 signatures to try to trigger a referendum on the province leaving Canada.

The group needed 178,000 signatures to force the province to consider such a vote.

The question of separation could go on a provincewide ballot as early as October, as Alberta Premier Danielle Smith has said she would move forward if enough names are gathered and verified. Smith has said she personally does not support the oil-rich province leaving Canada.

A “yes” vote would not trigger independence automatically. Negotiations with the federal government would have to take place and Daniel Béland, a political science professor at McGill University in Montreal, said some Indigenous groups who are already using the courts to prevent an independence referendum would use venues including the courts to stop independence from happening.

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Alberta separatist group says it has enough signatures to trigger referendum on leaving Canada (Original Post) dalton99a 14 hrs ago OP
From the article canetoad 14 hrs ago #1
It was 28% last year. Now it is down to 27%. And that applegrove 13 hrs ago #2
And a lot of these yoyos Disaffected 13 hrs ago #3
They don't have a chance. Republicans have made being part of the USA unpalatable applegrove 12 hrs ago #4
Glad to see that... It's incredible Cha 12 hrs ago #5
Thanks Cha! applegrove 11 hrs ago #8
the 51st state? alberta? rampartd 11 hrs ago #6
Norway gets so much more for their oil than Alberta does. applegrove 11 hrs ago #9
The Oilers suck! BidenRocks 11 hrs ago #7
I wouldn't hold my breath. DFW 10 hrs ago #10
Albertans don't support these fringe white nationalist movements.... Spazito 5 hrs ago #11

canetoad

(20,930 posts)
1. From the article
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:01 AM
14 hrs ago
“Right now, support for independence in Alberta is rather low. Less than 30% and much lower if we only focus on hard core supporters. And the odds of a victory of the pro-independence camp appear to be low at this stage,” he said.


They should shut up and sit down and consider priorities.

applegrove

(132,884 posts)
2. It was 28% last year. Now it is down to 27%. And that
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:16 AM
13 hrs ago

was before the scandal of separatism groups illegally publishing a list of voters and their addresses on the internet for anyone to see. Judges, abused women hiding from men, and many more had there data layed open to anyone to see. People are really mad. That is some MAGA-like action. I wonder if the pro-separatist vote will go even lower.

Disaffected

(6,532 posts)
3. And a lot of these yoyos
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:34 AM
13 hrs ago

really don't want to separate - they just want to "send a message" by answering Yes to separation polls.

Anyhow, there is no way it could work even with a referendum win - there is nothing in the constitution or legislation that provides for it.

applegrove

(132,884 posts)
4. They don't have a chance. Republicans have made being part of the USA unpalatable
Tue May 5, 2026, 02:09 AM
12 hrs ago

what with the attempt to cleave the middle class into parts and send 1/4 rich and 3/4ers poor. People know the average American has lost power in their own country.

Cha

(320,237 posts)
5. Glad to see that... It's incredible
Tue May 5, 2026, 03:00 AM
12 hrs ago

to me that they would want to leave Canada.

Hope Mark Carney can soothe their feathers.

Mahllo, apple

applegrove

(132,884 posts)
9. Norway gets so much more for their oil than Alberta does.
Tue May 5, 2026, 03:49 AM
11 hrs ago

Big Oil executives are already doing great in Alberta. They probably want Alberta to be the 51st state so they can get the oil for even cheaper.

DFW

(60,375 posts)
10. I wouldn't hold my breath.
Tue May 5, 2026, 04:09 AM
10 hrs ago

An independent Alberta won’t be supported by 50% of the people who live there, and I doubt there are 50% of the people anywhere who want their state/province to join Trump’s America.

Separatist movements in modern integrated countries are mostly supported by their own headline seekers. Texas is not leaving the USA, Catalunya is not leaving Spain, etc.

Spazito

(55,926 posts)
11. Albertans don't support these fringe white nationalist movements....
Tue May 5, 2026, 09:46 AM
5 hrs ago

there have been fringe groups touting separation for decades and they can never get above 30% support. These latest groups get even less support, it is, at best, 27% and that number includes those who are lukewarm to the idea. The hardcore number is around 19%.

Smith and her government lowered the number of signatures needed, 177,000, extended the time for collection for this group and only did that after forcing the "Forever Canada" group to have to collect 294,000 over a shorter time frame. The "Forever Canada" group collected over 400,000 verified signatures.

The more serious issue is about the 9 questions being asked in an October referendum that asks questions on pensions, immigrants, judges and more. The questions were put together by this appalling government without any real communication with Albertans beforehand, much as they pretended it was otherwise. I can only hope Albertans do their due diligence on the 9 issues before going to the polls on them.

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