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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(136,903 posts)
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:20 PM 17 hrs ago

CNN Data Guru Warns Trump Support Crashing: 'Absolute Collapse'

CNN’s chief data analyst is sounding the alarm on President Donald Trump’s abysmal poll numbers, saying they amount to an “absolute collapse” among key supporters.

CNN’s Harry Enten said Trump, pushing 80, has watched his approval rating tank in recent months, with his disapproval hitting a record 62 percent as Republican-leaning Independents turn on him.

“We are talking about a very important block [of voters] for the president of the United States—that is Republican-leaning Independents. That is what’s going on," Enten said Monday.

At this point in Trump’s first term, nearly three-quarters of Republican-leaning Independents supported him. Now, support has slipped to just half.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/cnn-data-guru-warns-trump-195957808.html

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CNN Data Guru Warns Trump Support Crashing: 'Absolute Collapse' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 17 hrs ago OP
It should be 99% disapproval as the 1 % are the only people he's helping now ! kimbutgar 17 hrs ago #1
Well keep us posted on your BIL since that is the metric that will apparently determine the mid terms. BannonsLiver 4 hrs ago #15
Agree. I like the use of "neurolinguistically programmed" to describe his BIL erronis 1 hr ago #34
Republicans don't care. J_William_Ryan 17 hrs ago #2
I don't think pollsters are keeping up with the exodus from the Republican Party pat_k 16 hrs ago #3
a shrinking number Cirsium 4 hrs ago #12
I think that pollsters may also be assuming... pat_k 3 hrs ago #20
Would I be the only person who thinks some pollsters (including Gallup) have some agendas? erronis 1 hr ago #35
Perhaps ITAL 1 hr ago #31
I hadn't actually seen people sayiing that. pat_k 1 hr ago #33
I had ITAL 1 hr ago #37
well that will be good for us in November Skittles 15 hrs ago #6
We'll see how many stupid people Tree Lady 15 hrs ago #7
So are you expecting a rough mid term for Democrats? BannonsLiver 4 hrs ago #14
It's so much easier for non-thinkers to pull the same levers, time after time. Especially if hubby does so also. erronis 1 hr ago #36
Just wait for the gladiator fights at the WH on his birthday. That should turn things around for him. Midnight Writer 16 hrs ago #4
True, that shit will actually work on the fucking booger-eating MAGAt morons. FoxNewsSucks 15 hrs ago #8
Who gives a fuck what they think. BannonsLiver 2 hrs ago #27
Yes he'll gain a bazillion new voters and win the mid terms and 14 future terms in the WH. BannonsLiver 4 hrs ago #17
At least the Romans got BREAD and circuses. Ray Bruns 4 hrs ago #18
Those gas prices and hunger Keepthesoulalive 45 min ago #40
they finally noticed the emperor is wearing no clothes Skittles 15 hrs ago #5
Gee, if only someboday warned Americans what was going to happen....... AZ8theist 15 hrs ago #9
Boy who cries WOLF! WOLF! WOLF! endlessly. usonian 5 hrs ago #10
Maybe he'll just fucking die already Orrex 4 hrs ago #11
It happens Akakoji 3 hrs ago #19
Not nearly enough. travelingthrulife 4 hrs ago #13
Better late than never, I guess. leftyladyfrommo 4 hrs ago #16
But 80% approval from Republicans....shrug n/t hibbing 3 hrs ago #21
That number used to be in the 90s. BannonsLiver 2 hrs ago #26
$5 dollar gas will kinda do that. paleotn 2 hrs ago #22
We will look back fondly on the days of 5$ gasoline Mysterian 2 hrs ago #24
It's mind-boggling that anyone can support a pure cretin to be their leader Mysterian 2 hrs ago #23
So, why then, are the Republicans in Congress voting in a one billion dollar proviso for his ballroom? Baitball Blogger 2 hrs ago #25
Spare me relogic 2 hrs ago #28
No cheering until after the midterms. Jirel 1 hr ago #29
Well, As He Knows, He Can Resign at Any Time MineralMan 1 hr ago #30
a wandering projectile could do wonders dave99 1 hr ago #38
"Sounding the alarm"? GenThePerservering 1 hr ago #32
If gas prices maintain its present direction going into Memorial Day Torchlight 1 hr ago #39
That's not an absolute crash. That's just a slight dip. Kablooie 28 min ago #41

kimbutgar

(27,473 posts)
1. It should be 99% disapproval as the 1 % are the only people he's helping now !
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:25 PM
17 hrs ago

But I until I hear my MAGA BIL has turned on him he’ll still have power over the neurolinguistically programmed and they can’t break away. Just like the Jim Jones cult members who share similarities to the 🍊🐖💩 supporters. ( sorry I just can’t write his name)

BannonsLiver

(20,791 posts)
15. Well keep us posted on your BIL since that is the metric that will apparently determine the mid terms.
Tue May 5, 2026, 10:57 AM
4 hrs ago

erronis

(24,336 posts)
34. Agree. I like the use of "neurolinguistically programmed" to describe his BIL
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:45 PM
1 hr ago

Somehow someone has managed to sneak into some of those layers that aren't reached by rationale thinking.

pat_k

(13,783 posts)
3. I don't think pollsters are keeping up with the exodus from the Republican Party
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:35 PM
16 hrs ago

My theory: That 83% approval among Republicans is actually 83% of a shrinking number. When they extrapolate from samples, they make assumptions about the percentages in the population each group represents. The thing is, the percentage of Republicans has been declining quarter over quarter. I don't think pollsters are keeping up.

In other words, while the percentage approval among R's looks "stubborn" that percentage actually reflects fewer and fewer people. Conversely, the high percentage of disapproval among D's, even if it looks stable, actually represents more and more people.

Q1 2026 (ABC report of gallup numbers)
25% Republican
43% Independent
30% Democratic

Average across all quarters 2025 (Gallup)
27% Republican
45% Independent
27% Democratic

The difference from the average over 2025 my not look dramatic, but remember, when looked in the context of the past 23 years, you can see that the percentage of people who self-identify as Republicans has not been as low as it was in the first quarter of this year since 2013.



How dramatic the move is is seen very clearly when you add R+R leaning I's and D+D leaning I's.




Cirsium

(4,064 posts)
12. a shrinking number
Tue May 5, 2026, 10:46 AM
4 hrs ago

Exactly right. "Such and such percentage of Republicans still support Trump" is misleading when the number of people identifying as Republican is shrinking.

pat_k

(13,783 posts)
20. I think that pollsters may also be assuming...
Tue May 5, 2026, 11:28 AM
3 hrs ago

... the percentage of R's is bigger than it is.

The "gold standard" for party affiliation has long been gallup's annual number, which is released at the begining of each year based on interviews conducted over the course of the year.

It is tough to find quarterly numbers. They don't publish them -- at least not directly to the public that I can find. I was VERY surprised to see ABC's first quarter estimates from Gallup in that report.

I suspect they've been seeing a surprising downward trend since the felon took office. I think the first quarter numbers were reported because it has now become clear something "strange' is going on -- i.e., a big exodus. And it's been going on since the felon took office.

The thing is, i'm no expert, but it is my understanding that party affiliation is a very stable thing. It doesn't tend to change much within the same cohort. It does shift as young people are added and older people subtracted over longer periods of time.

So, if, on the assumption party affiliation is pretty stable, pollsters use the annual "gold standard" when they extrapolate from samples, rather than adjusting for every quarter, they are over-estimating his support because they are actually missing the "exodus."






erronis

(24,336 posts)
35. Would I be the only person who thinks some pollsters (including Gallup) have some agendas?
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:47 PM
1 hr ago

ITAL

(1,357 posts)
31. Perhaps
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:12 PM
1 hr ago

But for about the last ten years I've seen/read people say that Trump's approval among Republicans is so high only because less people are staying Republican. That has yet to actually show up given gotten more votes every time he's run.

Granted midterms are different, but I am not convinced the GOP is really shrinking.

pat_k

(13,783 posts)
33. I hadn't actually seen people sayiing that.
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:42 PM
1 hr ago

Between 2015 and the last quarter of 2024, the trend was up and down so anyone saying it was consistently down wasn't looking at numbers.

The consistent downward trend took off after Q4 2024. Since then it has been a steady downward trend for six quarters. At no point prior to that since 2016 has the trend been the same direction for that many quarters. I find that significant.




Sure, maybe we shouldn't get too excited until the gap between D+D leaning I's and R+R leaning I's hits 15 points (that is, a bigger gap than any time since 1991), but I see the current trend as quite significant -- and a good sign. And while the current D+D leaning I's isn't as high as in 2008, I also find it significant that the number of R+R leaning I's is at the same low level of 39% -- lowest since 1991 at least.

ITAL

(1,357 posts)
37. I had
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:57 PM
1 hr ago

They may not have been looking at actual figures, but I've read it dozens of times through the years.

Tree Lady

(13,372 posts)
7. We'll see how many stupid people
Mon May 4, 2026, 11:37 PM
15 hrs ago

Still vote republican in red states in November, I bet most of them.

erronis

(24,336 posts)
36. It's so much easier for non-thinkers to pull the same levers, time after time. Especially if hubby does so also.
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:48 PM
1 hr ago

Midnight Writer

(25,660 posts)
4. Just wait for the gladiator fights at the WH on his birthday. That should turn things around for him.
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:46 PM
16 hrs ago

He has nothing to offer but reality-show dramatic stunts. He doesn't know how to do anything but stir shit.

He is a conman who people are losing confidence in.

BannonsLiver

(20,791 posts)
17. Yes he'll gain a bazillion new voters and win the mid terms and 14 future terms in the WH.
Tue May 5, 2026, 11:03 AM
4 hrs ago
🤦‍♂️

Keepthesoulalive

(2,370 posts)
40. Those gas prices and hunger
Tue May 5, 2026, 02:19 PM
45 min ago

Seems to be getting their attention, wait until the shortages hit. Maga who, what, I don’t know no maga. As they run inside to hide their maga merch.

AZ8theist

(7,563 posts)
9. Gee, if only someboday warned Americans what was going to happen.......
Mon May 4, 2026, 11:59 PM
15 hrs ago

But this analysis means shit unless it's a few days before the election.
I'm not convinced the Reich Wing doesn't have the fix in for the midterms.

usonian

(26,299 posts)
10. Boy who cries WOLF! WOLF! WOLF! endlessly.
Tue May 5, 2026, 09:50 AM
5 hrs ago

Is stealing their sheep.

And it took these people how many years to find out?

leftyladyfrommo

(20,024 posts)
16. Better late than never, I guess.
Tue May 5, 2026, 11:00 AM
4 hrs ago

He's getting just plain pathetic.

I saw a video of him giving a speech se
veral years ago and there isn't any comparison to him now. He had energy. Now he just wanders around abd his filter and judgement just aren't even there.

paleotn

(22,570 posts)
22. $5 dollar gas will kinda do that.
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:11 PM
2 hrs ago

Stomp all over people's civil rights, gut government agencies that protect and serve all of us, kill Americans on the street in cold blood, and pilfer tax payer funding for personal gain.....get's little in the way of traction. But jack up their gas prices, not to mention their groceries, and they're fucking up in arms!!! I don't know whether to be happy or sad.

Mysterian

(6,597 posts)
24. We will look back fondly on the days of 5$ gasoline
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:15 PM
2 hrs ago

if the republicans retain control much longer.

Mysterian

(6,597 posts)
23. It's mind-boggling that anyone can support a pure cretin to be their leader
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:14 PM
2 hrs ago

The power of the billionaire-owned mass media propaganda is stunning and frightening.

Baitball Blogger

(52,632 posts)
25. So, why then, are the Republicans in Congress voting in a one billion dollar proviso for his ballroom?
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:19 PM
2 hrs ago

Even if he gets the money, it won't slow him down.

relogic

(210 posts)
28. Spare me
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:48 PM
2 hrs ago

the proposed elation that maga/pukepubs support is in ‘Absolute Collapse'. If this is collapse, I direct you to the significant victory of this regime’s achievements the past year and a half.

As a symbol of what collapse means?

I present to you when he was allowed to put his name beside and on buildings, build ballrooms, construct towering arches to his name and destroy our gleaming Whitehouse I knew any talk of collapse is the lie out of hell literally.

Jirel

(2,381 posts)
29. No cheering until after the midterms.
Tue May 5, 2026, 01:07 PM
1 hr ago

None of this matters unless we have (relatively) fair elections, and the numbers translate to removing sufficient fascists.

Torchlight

(7,001 posts)
39. If gas prices maintain its present direction going into Memorial Day
Tue May 5, 2026, 02:04 PM
1 hr ago

I wouldn't be surprised to see even a few die-hard members of of fan club leadership in the legislatures begin to denounce him. Pump prices are not a theoretical concept nor a fictional anecdote to cover our narratives, but an occurrence we're forced to confront daily; and given the American proclivity to prioritize cash over conviction, I don't see this ending good for Mr. trump's base.

Kablooie

(19,116 posts)
41. That's not an absolute crash. That's just a slight dip.
Tue May 5, 2026, 02:37 PM
28 min ago

An absolute crash would require 90% the country to take their heads out of Trumps ass.
But they are all stuck in there so tight together that no one can pull out.

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