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erronis

(24,336 posts)
Mon May 4, 2026, 07:48 PM 19 hrs ago

Mark Carney Just Walked Into Armenia and Cracked The American Empire In Half

https://deanblundell.substack.com/p/breaking-mark-carney-just-walked
Dean Blundell

Mark Carney Just Walked Into Armenia and Cracked The American Empire In Half As Canada Entertains Joining The EU

While Donald Trump was busy threatening Greenland, picking fights with Germany, pulling 5,000 troops out of a NATO ally, bombing Iran, and licking Putin's boots on a Tuesday -- our guy Mark Carney just rolled into Yerevan, Armenia, and became the first non-European leader in history to be invited inside the European Political Community summit.

Forty-eight heads of state. Twenty-seven EU nations. The UK. Ukraine. Norway. Iceland. Turkey. Albania. The whole goddamn continent in one room -- and the guest of honour is the guy from the country Trump keeps calling "the 51st state."

The symbolism is so loud it should come with hearing protection.

Who The Hell Is Mark Carney Again? . . .

. . .

Mark Carney is a Harvard and Oxford-educated economist who ran the Bank of Canada through the 2008 financial crisis without a scratch. Then the British poached him to run the Bank of England through Brexit -- the first non-Brit to ever hold the job in its 300+ year history. Then he ran the UN's climate finance file. Then he wrote a book. Then, when Canada needed an adult in the room because Trump had decided he was going to annex us, Carney walked into Liberal leadership, won, called an election, and won that too in April 2025 -- fourth consecutive Liberal majority -- running on one promise: cut the American cord.

He's spent nearly 60 days outside the country since taking office. Not on vacation. Building a new world.

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Mark Carney Just Walked Into Armenia and Cracked The American Empire In Half (Original Post) erronis 19 hrs ago OP
After the last year, who wouldn't in his shoes? Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #1
If Carney gets Canada admitted to the EU, and then allies them with the TPP... Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #2
Game over, USA. Point and match, USSR. erronis 18 hrs ago #3
First of all, there is no USSR anymore Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #4
The USSR is very real in Putin's mind. erronis 18 hrs ago #6
If Carney succeeds, Russia and the US lose. Nt Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #8
I don't see us joining the EU, we would lose too much autonomy, partner with them yes. Bev54 17 hrs ago #32
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Carney has been making deals that benefit CAN regardless of trumps lunacy. Callie1979 18 hrs ago #7
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Poilievre, yeah he's hare weight and a piece of shit. Dave Bowman 16 hrs ago #49
BS Disaffected 18 hrs ago #9
Could you provide links for your assertions? niyad 18 hrs ago #10
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jacobin's crap doesn't work for me. It's badge of Cha 16 hrs ago #48
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4 or 5 claims with no sources.. Permanut 18 hrs ago #11
This guy may have a pizza on the way. Swede 17 hrs ago #26
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.. Cha 15 hrs ago #55
After I cooled down, I wanted to engage with Smoker. Swede 14 hrs ago #60
This message was self-deleted by its author Cha 14 hrs ago #63
May. malaise 6 hrs ago #66
Mark Carney has been brilliant for Canada Against Cha 18 hrs ago #14
.... Spazito 17 hrs ago #20
Ys, Indeed! Cha 17 hrs ago #30
Your "concern" is noted DinahMoeHum 17 hrs ago #21
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Who are the "actual left"? Spazito 16 hrs ago #34
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So you use the term "actual left" but ... Spazito 16 hrs ago #44
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Very simple, even simplistic one might say... Spazito 16 hrs ago #54
Carney is saving Canada. Swede 17 hrs ago #23
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I live here, he's the best thing that's happened to Canada since Trudeau got in ten years ago. Swede 16 hrs ago #36
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Not here in Canada. Swede 16 hrs ago #40
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The NDP are fading fast. Swede 16 hrs ago #46
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Nobody is trying to silence you, they're disagreeing with you. SunSeeker 16 hrs ago #50
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Aloha, SunSeeker... it's just Cha 12 hrs ago #64
Yup, all gone. SunSeeker 7 hrs ago #65
PM Mark Carney may be Helping Cha 17 hrs ago #33
Long term, as a Canadian, I agree LiberalLovinLug 17 hrs ago #25
Mark Carney is the de facto leader of the Free World. OMGWTF 18 hrs ago #12
I cannot disagree with that bucolic_frolic 18 hrs ago #13
Along with Zelenskyy. wnylib 16 hrs ago #37
I fucking hate clickbait hyperbole so much. Initech 18 hrs ago #15
I'm not sure what I hate more... progressoid 18 hrs ago #16
The clickbait is definitely a contributor to this timeline! Initech 17 hrs ago #19
Canadian PM Mark Carney.. Cha 18 hrs ago #17
He also knows how to play hockey. llmart 16 hrs ago #35
Thank you for that about Mark Carney.. Cha 16 hrs ago #43
I just looked him up on Wikipedia GopherGal 45 min ago #70
When Canada and Mexico join NATO to surround Trumpamerica, usonian 18 hrs ago #18
If that ever happens, Chump will already be gone FakeNoose 17 hrs ago #28
Canada is already in NATO. Mexico will never join NATO. LeftInTX 15 hrs ago #56
La Guardia Nacional usonian 15 hrs ago #57
Yes, they're domestic and they often used against their own people. LeftInTX 15 hrs ago #58
Use your imagination. usonian 14 hrs ago #61
It's not going to happen. They're not going to gang up on the US.. LeftInTX 14 hrs ago #62
USA under Trump is on its way to becoming a pariah nation. OGBuzz 2 hrs ago #68
Mark Carney is a real leader working on behalf of his country, not his own ego and his own bottom line. OGBuzz 17 hrs ago #22
trump wants to be the Emperor of North America Norbert 17 hrs ago #24
Could California join? JoseBalow 15 hrs ago #59
Canada and Mexico are moving on without America. Both President Sheinbaum and P.M. Carney are very Botany 5 hrs ago #67
our prime minister for this time in our history...well done mr. carney dawn5651 2 hrs ago #69

Fiendish Thingy

(23,820 posts)
2. If Carney gets Canada admitted to the EU, and then allies them with the TPP...
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:04 PM
19 hrs ago

It’s game over, USA.

I don’t like or agree with everything he’s doing, but on trade, he has been masterful.

erronis

(24,336 posts)
3. Game over, USA. Point and match, USSR.
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:11 PM
18 hrs ago

For Putin to humble the main cog in the western alliance by just bribing a few weak individuals (well, perhaps a few threats/actions), is a remarkable show of power of intellect over complacency and stupidity. Gotta give credit to the fox when it is due.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,820 posts)
4. First of all, there is no USSR anymore
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:14 PM
18 hrs ago

If Carney succeeds in creating an economic coalition of the EU and the TPP, both the US and Russia will be the losers, as the pool of their potential trading partners will shrink drastically.

They will hold few, if any, of the cards.

Bev54

(13,501 posts)
32. I don't see us joining the EU, we would lose too much autonomy, partner with them yes.
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:58 PM
17 hrs ago

We are working to determine our own trade, why would we want the EU to take over our decisions. I like most of what Carney is doing and that which I am not sure of, is because we don't know exactly what is happening, but I also know he can't show his full hand.

Response to erronis (Original post)

Callie1979

(1,391 posts)
7. Carney has been making deals that benefit CAN regardless of trumps lunacy.
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:29 PM
18 hrs ago

Would you rather have Pollivier

Response to Callie1979 (Reply #7)

Response to niyad (Reply #10)

Cha

(320,237 posts)
48. jacobin's crap doesn't work for me. It's badge of
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:39 PM
16 hrs ago

Honor for PM Mark Carney to be bashed by them.

Response to Cha (Reply #48)

Response to Swede (Reply #26)

Swede

(39,920 posts)
60. After I cooled down, I wanted to engage with Smoker.
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:21 AM
14 hrs ago

I didn't want him snuffed out.

He was farther left than most DUers, but I think he meant well. Oh well...

Response to Swede (Reply #60)

Cha

(320,237 posts)
14. Mark Carney has been brilliant for Canada Against
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:45 PM
18 hrs ago

the GD Evil PEDO Rapist Himocidal Maniac in the damaged WH.

He's about the furthest thing from an "asshole" as you claim.

Yeah, We love Mark Carney. deal with it.

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Spazito

(55,926 posts)
54. Very simple, even simplistic one might say...
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:59 PM
16 hrs ago

but you did define your term which is what I asked of you.

Response to Swede (Reply #23)

Swede

(39,920 posts)
36. I live here, he's the best thing that's happened to Canada since Trudeau got in ten years ago.
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:08 PM
16 hrs ago

He's doing real work for the regular folks of Canada.

Response to Swede (Reply #36)

Swede

(39,920 posts)
40. Not here in Canada.
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:17 PM
16 hrs ago

You compare Poilievre to Carney. I don't think I need any more info from you.

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SunSeeker

(58,364 posts)
50. Nobody is trying to silence you, they're disagreeing with you.
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:50 PM
16 hrs ago

Your responses have been cryptic. And you cite Jacobin, not a well-respected source. How about actually stating FACTS instead of bashing Carney as having been of no use to working Canadians?

Response to SunSeeker (Reply #50)

Cha

(320,237 posts)
64. Aloha, SunSeeker... it's just
Tue May 5, 2026, 02:48 AM
12 hrs ago

so weird... I came back to reply to your response to this post, and it seems to be gone.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21219447

It was the one with the Nation mag link. And, the post underneath it now is "nessage auto-removed" !

Cha

(320,237 posts)
33. PM Mark Carney may be Helping
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:01 PM
17 hrs ago

to save the World, too.

Along with the EU, NATO, and the Democracy loving countries..

Mahalo, Swede

LiberalLovinLug

(14,746 posts)
25. Long term, as a Canadian, I agree
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:40 PM
17 hrs ago

But for now, he's the only leader who can fight Trump at his own game. Establishing more Capitalist markets around the globe.

The NDP party, of the left, is now so withered they only have 6 seats. Carney is the best of two evils....if you add in Poilievre , leader of the maple maga conservatives.

bucolic_frolic

(55,637 posts)
13. I cannot disagree with that
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:44 PM
18 hrs ago

He is a cut above, he has some kind of super political vision, he seems to know everything, the details in his speeches are absolutely precise and show deep understanding.

Initech

(109,099 posts)
15. I fucking hate clickbait hyperbole so much.
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:46 PM
18 hrs ago

Good idea, and this will surely piss Trump off, but good lord, is this headline truly beyond stupid.

progressoid

(53,329 posts)
16. I'm not sure what I hate more...
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:53 PM
18 hrs ago

the hyperbolic headlines or this timeline.

Ok, it's this timeline.
But the media comes in a close 2nd.

Cha

(320,237 posts)
17. Canadian PM Mark Carney..
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:56 PM
18 hrs ago
He's spent nearly 60 days outside the country since taking office. Not on vacation. Building a new world.

I love this All about Mark Carney!

Mahalo, erronis!

llmart

(17,708 posts)
35. He also knows how to play hockey.
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:07 PM
16 hrs ago

I recently saw a clip of him on the ice with some team and he's pretty good. He didn't even need a golf cart to get from one end of the rink to the other!

GopherGal

(2,942 posts)
70. I just looked him up on Wikipedia
Tue May 5, 2026, 02:20 PM
45 min ago

Because I thought I remembered that he was a goalie, and goalies = weird (not always in a bad way, ymmv).
He was Harvard's backup goalie.

During his Harvard years, he was backup goalie for the varsity ice hockey team[18] and was a roommate of future NHL general manager Peter Chiarelli and former ice hockey player Mark Benning.[19][20] He lived at Winthrop House, and graduated in 1987 with a bachelor's degree in economics magna cum laude.


Oh, yeah, and graduated magna cum laude.

The contrast to that orange sac of festering pus at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave just keeps looking more painful.

usonian

(26,299 posts)
18. When Canada and Mexico join NATO to surround Trumpamerica,
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:59 PM
18 hrs ago

A new balance of power arises. They can destroy the US in a month by sealing borders to a US befriended only by Bibi and UAE.

No trade partners left.

Putin will have been Bolshevik'ed.

Only slightly speculative, but life is full of surprises, especially when one sex criminal disrupts everything.

FakeNoose

(42,119 posts)
28. If that ever happens, Chump will already be gone
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:49 PM
17 hrs ago

We need to be planning for the post-Chump years ... and may they hurry into focus as quickly as possible.

LeftInTX

(34,769 posts)
56. Canada is already in NATO. Mexico will never join NATO.
Mon May 4, 2026, 11:34 PM
15 hrs ago

I don't think it meets the requirements. It's military is mostly a domestic security (think "national guard&quot and has a history of being used on its own citizens.

usonian

(26,299 posts)
57. La Guardia Nacional
Mon May 4, 2026, 11:42 PM
15 hrs ago

Any tourist to Mexico probably has seen one.



They fight narco gangs. Try not to pick a fight with one.

LeftInTX

(34,769 posts)
58. Yes, they're domestic and they often used against their own people.
Mon May 4, 2026, 11:47 PM
15 hrs ago

Also the article was about the EU, not NATO. Armenia and Turkey have not been accepted as EU members. Armenia is not eligible for NATO. Yet this event takes place in Armenia.

I think Canada wants to build stronger partnerships with Europe.

I really don't think Mexico wants to join NATO because it involves a committment to send troops overseas to fight wars. A year ago, their president was focused on restoring beans, tortillas and instant coffee to a higher place in Mexican society. https://apnews.com/article/mexico-food-agriculture-plan-beans-nostalgia-1e3bd9d5e1af9e57376d2509e90d1260. Mexico's focus just isn't security in Europe, ME and Asia.


It's against the NATO charter to attack a NATO member anyway. So it's not gonna happen.
EU doesn't attack anyone.

usonian

(26,299 posts)
61. Use your imagination.
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:24 AM
14 hrs ago

If Canada and Mexico ganging up on Trumpamerica challenges you, how about USONA

United States of North America.

There are 23 countries in North America.

https://www.countries-ofthe-world.com/countries-of-north-america.html

And with 2 senators each (like our founders handed us) it would he harder for someone like Trump to take command.

Solves that damn border problem!!!

There is no life I know
To compare with pure imagination
Living there, you'll be free
If you truly wish to be


LeftInTX

(34,769 posts)
62. It's not going to happen. They're not going to gang up on the US..
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:31 AM
14 hrs ago

Heck, we can't even get the EU to rescue us, much less of bunch of countries over here

OGBuzz

(488 posts)
22. Mark Carney is a real leader working on behalf of his country, not his own ego and his own bottom line.
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:39 PM
17 hrs ago

Norbert

(7,833 posts)
24. trump wants to be the Emperor of North America
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:40 PM
17 hrs ago

Excellent move by Carney. I hope Sheinbaum will do the same.

Botany

(77,721 posts)
67. Canada and Mexico are moving on without America. Both President Sheinbaum and P.M. Carney are very
Tue May 5, 2026, 09:34 AM
5 hrs ago

…. smart and are working on joint plans to benefit the CITIZENS of their nations.

“Mexico and Canada reaffirm their commitment to dynamic and forward-looking collaboration. To that end, the President and the Prime Minister are pleased to announce the elevation of their cooperation framework to a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership, one that will build a future that is more prosperous, secure, inclusive and sustainable for their peoples. Mexico and Canada also commit to frequent meetings and communication at the highest level, as well as between ministers and secretaries, as part of a robust mechanism of ongoing dialogue that will drive the agreed-upon agenda forward.

In addition, President Sheinbaum and Prime Minister Carney are launching the Mexico-Canada Action Plan 2025-2028. This ambitious 3-year plan provides a strategic roadmap based on 4 pillars that reflect their shared priorities: prosperity; mobility, well-being and inclusion; security; and environment and sustainability. The Mexico-Canada Action Plan will serve as the directive for carrying out concrete actions, including collaboration on trade and investment facilitation and port connectivity, as well as promoting cooperation on agriculture, energy, natural resources, health, security, emergency preparedness and climate action. The new Comprehensive Strategic Partnership will better equip both countries to address complex global challenges and seize on emerging opportunities.”

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