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Miles Archer

(24,018 posts)
Sun May 3, 2026, 09:25 AM Sunday

Tucker Carlson's claiming Grampy allowed Bibi to pressure him into war, knowing it could be "the end of his presidency"

I'm not going to post the content from the article here, because it's Tucker Carlson, and I call bullshit on this being some kind of "moral imperative" for Trump, that his "principles" had to override his "legacy."

Maybe he's just a stupid fuck who let a bigger conman and fellow war criminal convince him that driving off the cliff was the smart thing to do.

I will share this:

the potential consequences were profoundly bad; the end of his presidency to start, which I think has proven to be.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-iran-2676845053/


You can go to the link and read the whole thing, if you'd like. The gist is that Netanyahu pressured him into it, and we know "Prince" Mohammed bin Bonesaw also did the same.
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Jim__

(15,262 posts)
1. I didn't read the interview. But my strong impression was that after Venezuela, Trump thought the American ...
Sun May 3, 2026, 09:31 AM
Sunday

... military could walk in anywhere and do what it wanted. Trump told the NY Times that the only check on his power was his own morality.

dalton99a

(95,033 posts)
2. Kick
Sun May 3, 2026, 09:35 AM
Sunday
Carlson dismissed the uproar that came after he had Nick Fuentes, an influential white nationalist, on his show, saying, “He didn’t get us into war with Iran.” He reserved choice words for Senator Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee, the American ambassador to Israel, who he said were both calling for “killing kids” (both men denied this) and were responsible, along with Trump, for “making this moment possible.” He also called Cruz “repulsive, disgusting.”

Though he downplayed Fuentes’ influence on our politics and characterized his antisemitic and racist views as “naughty,” he told me he regretted having him on his show because it distracted from the bigger issues.

Carlson was credited with getting Trump to pick Vance as his vice president, and he spoke protectively about his friend, who he said had been subject to “nonstop treachery” by “neoconservatives” inside the White House. He also said that the right-wing personalities Mark Levin and Laura Loomer “have been out for Vance from Day 1, big time.” Both Levin and Loomer denied that.

Carlson said Vance was in a “tough spot” because his long-stated foreign policy views were contrary to the administration’s actions in Iran. Carlson said of Vance that he “couldn’t be a bigger fan of him as a man, but I think anybody connected to this is going to have a hard time explaining it, because how is this good for the United States? It’s not.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/02/magazine/tucker-carlson-takeaways-interview.html

tanyev

(49,521 posts)
6. This is what happens when all the kids who did not play well with others in school
Sun May 3, 2026, 11:43 AM
Sunday
grow up get older and take over a political party.

Lovie777

(23,463 posts)
3. It's hard for me to believe nor stomach the lies, gaslighting coming from the "right".....................
Sun May 3, 2026, 09:43 AM
Sunday

RWers are basically and by tradition liars and evil conspirators.

The President of the United States first and foremost is to protect this country and her people. shihthole has done neither. Same shit in his 1st tenure and it's gotten much worse in his 2nd tenure.

A president put the needs of his people before the needs of others, especially from foreign countries. shithole has done neither.

Plus shithole and his party are greedy SOBs, stealing taxpayer's money which is taken away from programs that help it's people.

Fuck them.

karynnj

(61,071 posts)
4. I don't think anyone really knows Trump's mind,
Sun May 3, 2026, 10:06 AM
Sunday

but I think a better conjecture than Carlson's might be that Netanyahu sold Trump that this could reshape the Middle East into a better place and that he, unlike his predecessors was strong and brave enough to do it. Consider it as another step of PNAC with the same neo con theory that got us into Iraq.

Trump has even said others should have done this and has often spoke of their 47 years of terrorism. Just like his posting of the Jesus/doctor drawing, he.sees himself as God like. Remember his comment on being bound only by his morality, not international law? I think Netanyahu played to his narcissism and view that he is the most powerful person ever and will have a huge legacy. The adolescent bully his family sent away still exists inside the President.

hlthe2b

(114,418 posts)
5. Oh, heavens.. He has no principles--only obsession with what benefit falls to him personally.
Sun May 3, 2026, 10:48 AM
Sunday

But the latter makes him incredibly easy to manipulate. That's why the long-reported issue with his susceptibility to both flattery and the last person to speak with him matters so much. Netanyahu definitely fits in the latter, and I suspect (like Putin's decades of blackmail evidence collection efforts), has freely used his Mossad to gather devastatingly damaging information against Trump.

Trump is a national security nightmare. But, likewise, a domestic security nightmare. Bibi shares Trump's criminality--to avoid it, the long-sought eternal war against Iran, Hezbollah-Lebanon, and Hamas (among others) is the perfect solution. Easy enough to justify to the Israeli RW-Likud and most certainly to Trump, albeit the latter was not looking for a long-term engagement.

Maybe Bibi only gave Trump the license or strong "encouragement," if some prefer, to do what he already wanted to, albeit in the most uninformed and consequence-ignorant manner. But, I certainly don't believe Trump would have done so NOW without Bibi and his "influence" (or unrelenting manipulation IMHO).

Blue Full Moon

(3,609 posts)
7. He did it willingly. He has illusions of grandeur.
Sun May 3, 2026, 11:51 AM
Sunday

Real estate and money siren call to a megalomaniac.

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