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Jack Valentino

(5,224 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:34 PM Thursday

'The Day After' (1983 nuclear holocaust TV movie that changed history): 16 Weird Secrets You Didn't Know-- and 'Threads'

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"The Day After (1983) shocked millions with its unflinching portrayal of nuclear war—but not everything made it to air. In this video, we explore the hidden truths surrounding the film, including rumored cuts, network concerns, and the deeper message some believe was softened for television."

MY notes on this video--- Some of the film was actually filmed in Kansas, and the movie pyrotechnics creating mushroom clouds actually panicked people in Kansas who could see them, but knew nothing about the film being made, and they believed that a nuclear war had actually started! Official phone lines were overwhelmed with calls from panicked people---

Also, about an hour's worth of scenes were deleted, judged as being too horrible for the viewing audience to be able to bear---
(but the final product was bad enough to influence President Ronald Reagan himself to 'change direction'---
and thank God for that!)

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Full version of the original TV movie:




The television airing of 'The Day After' in 1983 was a very major television event in my life,
possibly on a par with with the closing episode of 'MASH'. It had ample prior promotion...

At the time, I was a 20-year-old delivery driver for Domino's Pizza, in community college.
A good number of Domino's Pizza employees from my store planned to meet
at the home of one of the other drivers to view this movie..
.
(quite possibly he had auto-taped it on his VCR, for us to view later,
since store hours were 4:30 pm to 1:00 am, but I don't recall for sure
whether we might have actually viewed it live or not---
only that we planned this affair at least several days in advance).

I do remember at least one of the comments on the movie by a fellow employee,
about the scene with the African American missile site technician,
whom, after their missile has already been launched exclaims

"THE WAR IS OVER! WE DONE OUR JOB!" But their orders were to remain at the missile site
'until the helicopters come' to pick them up... but he shouts

"The bombs will be here before the choppers will!"

My coworker's comment was

"that guy has a real healthy attitude!"




A year after 'The Day After', the British movie about a possible impending nuclear holocaust,

"THREADS" (full movie link)

was even more graphic and frightening than 'The Day After',
as it also depicted nuclear winter, starvation, and birth defects
which would be likely after such a war---

The last scene is the killer---
a young girl who survived the war. but was subsequently raped
and conceived in the aftermath, gives birth to her child---
and begins to SCREAM after she SEES it!


((OK, she didn't actually scream in the film, now that I have re-watched the final scene---
but after seeing her baby, she recoiled from it and withdrew her hands---
and was CLEARLY about to scream when the film ended---
I imagined the scream that was clearly coming,
and that is how I remember the end!))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads_(1984_film)


Rather too ironic now, that the nuclear war depicted in 'Threads'
was precipitated by a RUSSIAN invasion of IRAN,
to which the U.S. felt it had to respond with troops----
(because of O.I.L., what else!--- although that is never mentioned...)

and the escalation resulted in this fictional nuclear war!


EVERYONE who voted for the madman TRUMP
should have been REQUIRED to VIEW BOTH of these movies---
BEFORE being allowed to cast such a fucking stupid vote!

(for the guy who once said 'we HAVE nuclear weapons,
so why can't we use them?')

((well diaper Don, we already DID 'use them',
and we are the ONLY country who EVER DID!))


I'm glad I am getting old, and most of my life is already behind me---
and that if the demented orange fool decides to push the button
late at night, such as when he makes his "Lies Social" tirades,
I will most likely be asleep and oblivious of his
murders of myself and much of the world, if it happens!














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'The Day After' (1983 nuclear holocaust TV movie that changed history): 16 Weird Secrets You Didn't Know-- and 'Threads' (Original Post) Jack Valentino Thursday OP
That was when we had 3 tv channels and experiencesvevents as one nation BlueWaveNeverEnd Thursday #1
Thanks for posting Jack canetoad Thursday #2
My mother wouldn't let me watch it. CivicGrief Thursday #3
My parents wouldn't either RockCreek Thursday #9
My dad was a WWII vet. He MADE me watch The Holocaust and The Day After Maru Kitteh Sunday #19
The movie, Testament, also from 1983, still rocks me... ultralite001 Thursday #4
Yeah, I forgot to mention 'Testament'--- also very bleak but Jack Valentino Thursday #5
Good catch... ultralite001 Thursday #6
Threads: "Might as well go out with a 'bang', that's what I say!" LOL Jack Valentino Sunday #18
My Gen X childhood comes rushing back. OC375 Thursday #7
When the Wind Blows is another good one from that era. johnp3907 Thursday #8
As is "Grave of the Fireflies" -- Studio Ghibli -- 1988... ultralite001 Friday #11
Thank you! johnp3907 Friday #12
This message was self-deleted by its author wcmagumba Thursday #10
I was 30, I watched. Was also at the then Biggest March/Protest (Anti-Nuke Weapons) on June 12, 1982 in NYC! electric_blue68 Friday #13
I Found Threads To Be Very Frightening ProfessorGAC Friday #14
Same here. Another Jackalope Friday #16
When I was a 17 year old college student I attended a lecture by Helen Caldicott and talked with her a bit afterwards. hunter Friday #15
Bookmarked. lpbk2713 Friday #17
Thanks for posting this...... Takket Sunday #20
All their $$$, all their crypto, all their property + possessions... ultralite001 Sunday #21

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(14,826 posts)
1. That was when we had 3 tv channels and experiencesvevents as one nation
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:37 PM
Thursday

I remember that movie well.

canetoad

(20,933 posts)
2. Thanks for posting Jack
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:42 PM
Thursday

I have copies of both movies on disc and give them a re-watch every few years. I grew up not very far from Sheffield, site the first UK hit.

The film below is a 2005 BBC 'hypothetical'. Called 'End Day' it visualizes end of the earth scenarios. 55mins or so, so not a quick watch.

CivicGrief

(285 posts)
3. My mother wouldn't let me watch it.
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:45 PM
Thursday

I tried all kinds of excuses to walk through the den. Don’t remember a thing about it.

RockCreek

(1,496 posts)
9. My parents wouldn't either
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:27 PM
Thursday

I had an old black and white TV in my bedroom that I managed to tune it in on briefly without them knowing. That 20 minutes or so, in black and white, was too much. I think it was near the end with the "Gone with the Wind" scene of walking through wounded people.
I never have watched the whole thing.

Maru Kitteh

(31,928 posts)
19. My dad was a WWII vet. He MADE me watch The Holocaust and The Day After
Sun May 3, 2026, 02:02 AM
Sunday

He felt strongly that the culture in general did not treat the subject of war with the gravity it should. He felt they made war into a joke too easily (Hogan’s Heros/MASH) or some kind of glory trip with golden heroes and chiseled jaws.

He wanted to make sure I understood, it’s none of those things. We watched MASH, like most other families in the US at that time and dad laughed, too, but we were long disabused of the notion that it ever really scratched the surface of what war does. At least not until the final episode where the infant is smothered. That’s war. That’s what war is.

ultralite001

(2,644 posts)
4. The movie, Testament, also from 1983, still rocks me...
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:57 PM
Thursday

Based on Carol Amen's 1981 short story, "The Last Testament," the film tells the story
of how a small suburban town near the San Francisco Bay Area slowly falls apart after
a nuclear war destroys outside civilization.

You can watch it here:



Another film for your consideration: "Ground Zero." This Australian film is a fictional account
addressing nuclear tests + their impact on Aboriginal people. It features Indigenous activist
Burnum Burnum in the cast + explores the conspiracy surrounding the British nuclear tests
at Maralinga. The film was made immediately after the McClelland Royal Commission +
highlights health impacts on both soldiers + Indigenous Australians exposed to radiation.




Here's another link to "Threads"...


Jack Valentino

(5,224 posts)
5. Yeah, I forgot to mention 'Testament'--- also very bleak but
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:11 PM
Thursday

without direct bomb damage---


Notable for one of Kevin Costner's earliest film appearances---
as the young father who had to bury his child who died from radiation--

'she'll fit into this'




and of course JANE SEYMOUR starring as the mother....




OC375

(1,094 posts)
7. My Gen X childhood comes rushing back.
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:23 PM
Thursday

After that, everything else is less threatening by comparison. Still won’t shock me if it happens. That’s life.

ultralite001

(2,644 posts)
11. As is "Grave of the Fireflies" -- Studio Ghibli -- 1988...
Fri May 1, 2026, 02:17 PM
Friday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_Fireflies

A copy of the original is available via Internet Archive w/o subtitles.

https://archive.org/details/grave-of-the-fireflies_202508/Grave+of+the+Fireflies.iso

A YouTube version is also available. For English subtitles, change settings to "autotranslate" + choose English.


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electric_blue68

(27,144 posts)
13. I was 30, I watched. Was also at the then Biggest March/Protest (Anti-Nuke Weapons) on June 12, 1982 in NYC!
Fri May 1, 2026, 06:29 PM
Friday
Over 1 million people!
From Central Park down to the UN.
I think Bruce played in CP and possibly Midnight Oil did, too.

Anyway, I have a vague memory of walking downhill on Broadway upper Washington Heghts to a ?community center for a post-film discussion.

And as a NYC'r I'd already seen from ?my 20's a concentric circles map of Nuclear Bomb Destruction & Damage of our 5 Burroughs with The Empire State Building as ground zero.
Ohhh, joy! 😑

And Just remembered ...
in the mid-70's NYC first stop was a tour from Japan of Atomc Bomb artifacts. Photos, the then iconic "stopped clock" (when bomb exploded), the most striking was a piece of wall where bc the flash was so bright it "etched" shadows of the people near it into the structure.

Another Jackalope

(211 posts)
16. Same here.
Fri May 1, 2026, 11:00 PM
Friday

I got through The Day After with a bit of work, but Threads was truly terrifying. I think it was the slow step-by-step build up - it was horribly realistic. It gave me nightmares for a couple of weeks afterward.

hunter

(40,814 posts)
15. When I was a 17 year old college student I attended a lecture by Helen Caldicott and talked with her a bit afterwards.
Fri May 1, 2026, 08:19 PM
Friday

That was the beginning of my long strange ride as an anti-nuclear activist, the embers of which still remained when I first signed on to Democratic Underground.

My mind had started to go a little sideways in late adolescence -- autism, a childhood head injury, PTSD, mild schizophrenia, I don't know what -- and I remember watching this movie with my sister who was pretty good at keeping me grounded. It would still be a year or two before I'd clawed most of my mind back.

I may have written a letter or two to Ronald Reagan which would best be lost.

In these modern days of terabyte hard drives and giant data centers I'm sure nothing is lost.

lpbk2713

(43,290 posts)
17. Bookmarked.
Fri May 1, 2026, 11:50 PM
Friday


Thanks to those of you who provided links. I want to check them all out.

I remember seeing The Day After and it scared the bejeebus out of me.
It kept running through my mind "this could really happen".

Takket

(23,775 posts)
20. Thanks for posting this......
Sun May 3, 2026, 10:16 AM
Sunday

I watched the movie this weekend. I was only 5 when it came out, and I'd never heard of it before. It was very well done and terrifying, and did a great job of portraying the real human toll of a nuclear war. Especially framing in the first half how we are all just going about our normal lives with our normal problems.... the farmer who's daughter is staying out all night having sex with her soon to be husband, the woman about to have her baby, the doctor traveling to give a lecture.....

And then all of it is gone...... government, law and order, and literally safe air to breathe. All gone in less than an hour. And it really brings to life the truth of nuclear war, that the survivors will envy the dead. If I could be any person in this movie, it would be one of the persons vaporized on impact, who never even knew what happened. For the survivors, living in an irradiated world, there is no food, no water, hospitals helpless to provide care.

I think "fear of nuclear war" is something people don't think a whole lot about anymore. But it really should be. We should be thinking about who's finger we trust to be "on the button". Look at the stuff we are arguing about.... oil in Iran, money in politics, college affordability...... nothing compares in importance to making sure a nuclear war never happens. Even utter madmen like Putin and drumpf have not launched........ how much do we trust them to not do so in the future?

While I'd never seen this movie I remember being a teenager and watching the movie Crimson Tide, and they are talking about nuclear war and Denzel Washington's character says something along the lines of "there's no such thing as a nuclear war, only nuclear holocaust". That line always stuck with me about how horrible it would be. No winners, only losers, and the end of our way of life, forever.

I wish these weapons simply did not exist. No one person should have the ability to end the world with the press of a button. it is too great of responsibility and temptation. And too dangerous to risk that one day some crazy person will gain enough power launch.

ultralite001

(2,644 posts)
21. All their $$$, all their crypto, all their property + possessions...
Sun May 3, 2026, 11:00 PM
Sunday

will not save them or their progeny if these weapons are unleashed...


"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me"... Exodus 20:5 KJV

“Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.” Exodus 34: 7 KJV

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